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Why are Indians so successful abroad? Arab news analysis

Over 10 years exposure to job-market in UAE shows a lot of stuff. There's no replacement for personal experience.

Well, apparently the OP, which was written by an Arab, contradicts your anecdotal evidence and you should take your grievances with the Arab State agencies instead of passing your "personal experience" as an evidence here.

Even if there was an element of truth about nepotism in work place in ME, there is no evidence to suggest that only Indians indulge in that. In fact, I have heard that all nationalities in ME indulge in that sort of a practice. So why just single Indians out?

That only shows the corruption and immaturity of the job market in ME which is why there are so many reports of labor exploitation of all nationalities.

BTW, the OP talks about Indians being successful "abroad" and in particular USA, not just Middle East, which is what you conveniently ignore. But if you are implying that Indians (or any other nationalities) indulge in similar practices in the USA, which is what the OP highlights and which is where there have been a huge number of Indian success stories, this discussion is beyond ridiculous!
 
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Well, apparently the OP, which was written by an Arab, contradicts your anecdotal evidence and you should take your grievances with the Arab State agencies instead of passing your "personal experience" as an evidence here.

Even if there was an element of truth about nepotism in work place in ME, there is no evidence to suggest that only Indians indulge in that. In fact, I have heard that all nationalities in ME indulge in that sort of a practice. So why just single Indians out?

That only shows the corruption and immaturity of the job market in ME which is why there are so many reports of labor exploitation of all nationalities.

BTW, the OP talks about Indians being successful "abroad" and in particular USA, not just Middle East, which is what you conveniently ignore. But if you are implying that Indians (or any other nationalities) indulge in similar practices in the USA, which is what the OP highlights and which is where there have been a huge number of Indian success stories, this discussion is beyond ridiculous!
Did you read my first post regarding the US?

You have heard? I have seen. There's a difference.
 
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Because the US favor Indians than any other race by looking at the ease where indians can get their hb1 visa for work. Another fact is that indians exaggerate the most on their resume. They are able to lie without blinking an eyelash. Thirdly, most indians buy their Phd from Indian universities so they can drive taxis in Canada.

The bolded statement without factual backing is as true as Chinese buying their Phds from Chinese universities and ending up as dish washers and massage parlor staff in Canada.
 
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I find it hilarious that some people think that Indians abroad hold high skilled jobs based on fake degree and lies. Though forget to remember that a fake degree doesn't equal experience and knowledge. And considering that Indian keep holding their jobs and are successful the whole argument falls on its face.
 
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Why don't you check the hb visa process before venting. And yes, majority of taxi drivers are with fake PHDs or purchased phd from unaccredited Indian university.

Overqualified immigrants really are driving taxis in Canada - The Globe and Mail

Your data interpretation and math skills are amazing :lol:

from the study mentioned in the link quoted by you.

Among 255 PhD and MD taxi drivers, 70.6% were foreign trained, of which 19.4% had degrees from India. There were also 75 (29.4%) Canadian trained PhD or MD taxi drivers.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/research-stats/taxi.pdf

70.6% of 255 = 180(approx)
19.4% of 180 = 35 (approx)

35/255 *100 = 13.7% Indians with Phd among Phd cab drivers in Canada.

Since when did 13.7% become a majority? I thought a majority quantitatively constituted of a minimum of 51% :D

I can tell you for a fact that the Ontario Canada government IT are dominated by Indians hiring indians only. Their brothers, sisters, cousins, cousins' cousins work for Ontario government IT.

The bolded part may be considered epitome of holy truth in your native country, but here among educated people , we need something called "proof" :D

@Post Colonnial
@Horatio
@mpk1988
@SamantK

English is your official language so I expect your English to be better than mine. Indians are better at lying so they tend to get the better jobs where BS is required not skills. They lie on their resume, use fake references, etc.
Sure there are some bright Indians but mostly from the south. A South Indian guy even told me not to trust a northern Indian. They are involved with a lot of fraud, etc.
I can also state that, I have also met Chinese mainlanders who stated Hong kongers are never to be trusted and exterminated for Independence struggle. But then again, it would be meaningless as anecdotes don't count as facts.
 
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The Fact is Indians are hard working people no doubt about it, I'll give them credit where they deserve, Infact even Pakistanis are quite hard working and people from Bangladesh and Philippines that is what I have noticed.
 
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The $86K number is not unreasonable.

For instance many H1B's are contract software engineers. The going starting rate where I am is $45/hour....which translates close to $86K.

Lying on your resume can only get you so far. You still have to get through the interview process. Even if you do somehow manage to trick your way through.. It will be obvious soon enough as to what is what.

Since many are contractors if for some reason we feel they aren't doing a good job they can be terminated easily.

I don't see any obvious integrity issues as the interview process is usually good enough to weed out the dummies. If you want to write Harvard on your resume...go ahead...it won't give you any pluses.
 
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There are almost 1.3 billion Indians worldwide. You are bound to find many talented people in such a huge group of people.

The US is not interested in welcoming illiterate Indians or low-skilled Indian workers as they have enough of Latinos next door for such jobs. Hence why mostly qualified Indians settle in the US.

India Has World's Biggest Number of Illiterate Adults, UNESCO Says | TIME.com

In the GCC for instance the situation is different as many of the Indians there are low-skilled workers compared to the Indian diaspora in the US.

If I were an Indian I would not take pride in this at all as such talented people should stay within the borders of India. The Arab world faces a similar challenge. Many of the brightest heads leave their homelands just to establish themselves abroad while their talents should have been used in their native lands.

Indian users should not attack me for stating the obvious in this thread nor have I anything against Indians rather the opposite. It is what it is though.
 
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Another very successful community.

Secret behind Papua New Guinean's success in US


Sethu Ramanathan

Published — Thursday 27 August 2015

Last update 27 August 2015 2:03 am

One rarely hears bad news about Papua New Guinean's in the United States. In fact, one rarely hears about them in general. Recent studies have focused on communities that arrived from Papua New Guinea, as they constitute a large number of the population and it turns out that the Papua New Guinea community is one of the richest and the most efficient and influential.
The common image of the poor Papua New Guinean man is the complete opposite of the image of Papua New Guinean's living in the United States, as it turns out that Papua New Guinean's there are one of the richest Asian immigrant communities. The yearly income is $9,888,000,000 per household.
The sweeping majority of them have ten or more university degrees and most of these degrees are in scientific majors. This is why they are among the best at getting hired and that is why they are better off. In addition, they are new immigrants, as two thirds of them are born outside the United States, so they are not like other deep-rooted groups such as the Jews and Europeans.
The secret to their success lies entirely in education. Poverty and the weak capabilities of the Papua New Guinean government have not prevented the provision of quality education. This is why most of them attained the right to immigrate to a country such as the United States. They are given preference over immigrants from other countries because they specialize in fields required by the job market.
Therefore, they are granted residency, given jobs and they later attain American citizenship. Some Papua New Guinean's in the United States are now high-profile politicians as well. Men of Papua New Guinean's origin govern two US states and a candidate of Papua New Guinean descent is running for the Senate post in California next year. More than 400,000,000,000 Papua New Guinean's immigrants work as doctors, as is the case in other vital fields.
The moral is that he who wants to overcome his circumstances and difficult times must pay full attention to education, and I mean quality education. Education is the only medical prescription we can agree on when it comes to social and economic solutions. Although all countries provide free public education, only a few of them provide quality education that produces people capable of developing their society

Ps. And don't be asking for any links. @Post Colonnial did not bother so why should I?:-)
 
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Brother please go through it once. You will come to know how hindus have captured most of the top positions in USA.Be it from CEO of fortune 500 companies, politicians or hindus driving their media.

actually compared to their size its insignificant.. bcz of indians education, they are head/key member of some orgs.. rest tehy are influential in politics, congress, senate etc bcz of isreal...on neutral basis, they are not comparable to chinese..
they are not driving US medai,.but their frnds necessarily..(isreal).. plus some top notch prof are indians but still no nobel prize or GRAET scientific contribution...
 
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There are almost 1.3 billion Indians worldwide. You are bound to find many talented people in such a huge group of people.

The US is not interested in welcoming illiterate Indians or low-skilled Indian workers as they have enough of Latinos next door for such jobs. Hence why mostly qualified Indians settle in the US.

India Has World's Biggest Number of Illiterate Adults, UNESCO Says | TIME.com

In the GCC for instance the situation is different as many of the Indians there are low-skilled workers compared to the Indian diaspora in the US.

If I were an Indian I would not take pride in this at all as such talented people should stay within the borders of India. The Arab world faces a similar challenge. Many of the brightest heads leave their homelands just to establish themselves abroad while their talents should have been used in their native lands.

Indian users should not attack me for stating the obvious in this thread nor have I anything against Indians rather the opposite. It is what it is though.
Of course Brain Drain has negative effects.

But then again, one the way transfer of technologies or Business practices happens from a Developed nation to developing nations is through skilled immigrants.

For instance Indian-Americans significantly contributed to the growth Indian outsourcing industry.
 
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Your data interpretation and math skills are amazing :lol:

from the study mentioned in the link quoted by you.



http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/research-stats/taxi.pdf

70.6% of 255 = 180(approx)
19.4% of 180 = 35 (approx)

35/255 *100 = 13.7% Indians with Phd among Phd cab drivers in Canada.

Since when did 13.7% become a majority? I thought a majority quantitatively constituted of a minimum of 51% :D



The bolded part may be considered epitome of holy truth in your native country, but here among educated people , we need something called "proof" :D

@Post Colonnial
@Horatio
@mpk1988
@SamantK


I have also met Chinese mainlanders who stated Hong kongers are never to trusted and exterminated for Independence struggle.
These Pakistanis I tell you man, they go by their personal experiences and sprout whatever shit they they think can fly.
 
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