Why are Indians so successful abroad? Arab news analysis

[Peshwa]

It's not data. If you had read my earlier posts you would know I can not unsee what goes on in the GCC job market. This comes from my personal experience.

I agree, I used the term "Indian" too generally. That was my mistake. It is a very specific region in India that is famous (atleast here in the GCC) for it's unethical hiring tactics.

Well anecdotal experiences are good as a learning lesson for your own benefit...But I wouldn't use that to generalize an entire population of 1.2B people. I mean you couldn't have possibly had a sample size large enough to make such a broad statement...
Nevertheless, I will admit that there exist some shady practices stemming from Indian candidates...which would be a minor percentage..if at all..

And thanks for clarifying as well as correcting your statement, I appreciate it!

There are almost 1.3 billion Indians worldwide. You are bound to find many talented people in such a huge group of people.

The US is not interested in welcoming illiterate Indians or low-skilled Indian workers as they have enough of Latinos next door for such jobs. Hence why mostly qualified Indians settle in the US.

India Has World's Biggest Number of Illiterate Adults, UNESCO Says | TIME.com

In the GCC for instance the situation is different as many of the Indians there are low-skilled workers compared to the Indian diaspora in the US.

If I were an Indian I would not take pride in this at all as such talented people should stay within the borders of India. The Arab world faces a similar challenge. Many of the brightest heads leave their homelands just to establish themselves abroad while their talents should have been used in their native lands.

Indian users should not attack me for stating the obvious in this thread nor have I anything against Indians rather the opposite. It is what it is though.

I hardly think there's a dearth of talent or brain in India even with this supposed "brain drain"..
If you notice, India is doing just fine from an economic persspective, especially wrt. private firms and entrepreneurship...

Besides, in a globalized world, these same Indians (living and working abroad) become representatives of India (think ambassadors)... generate people to people contact with important players and even help drive FDI to India..

I take pride in knowing that Indians are successful, educated, honest and hardworking while contributing equally to their host nation as they do to india (through remittances)....I am proud that we are treated as an asset by the host nations as opposed to becoming a burden...

 

[Post Colonnial]

There are almost 1.3 billion Indians worldwide. You are bound to find many talented people in such a huge group of people.

The US is not interested in welcoming illiterate Indians or low-skilled Indian workers as they have enough of Latinos next door for such jobs. Hence why mostly qualified Indians settle in the US.

India Has World's Biggest Number of Illiterate Adults, UNESCO Says | TIME.com

In the GCC for instance the situation is different as many of the Indians there are low-skilled workers compared to the Indian diaspora in the US.

If I were an Indian I would not take pride in this at all as such talented people should stay within the borders of India. The Arab world faces a similar challenge. Many of the brightest heads leave their homelands just to establish themselves abroad while their talents should have been used in their native lands.

Indian users should not attack me for stating the obvious in this thread nor have I anything against Indians rather the opposite. It is what it is though.

India has a lot of intelligent people and can spare as many as the world needs. India also has a lot of unskilled ad low-skilled people, so they can be spared as well. The pride comes from not only that the intelligent Indians shine abroad but that millions of unkilled and semi-literate people of India do not get radicalized like almost everywhere else. That makes them pretty darn smart, in spite of being semi literate. And India does have more muslims than all of the ME countries btw - still they do not get radicalized. If they are poor they work hard, whether that means cleaning toilets in some arabian country or running Microsoft

 

[marbella]

considering a small population of indians and pakistanis living abroad, there are plenty of successful ppl. shad the nfl guy, mittal the steel guy, adil citizen khan, kal penn kumar,dhyamalan the sixth sence guy, amir the boxer khali the wrestler, mishal zakaria gupta the news guys, bobby jindal, huma clinton, this google guy, the hotmail guy, aahoa owning properties of billions... all those cornerstores and convinience stores, those mobilephone repair shops and flea marketers...

but still not busniess man.. are either worker, or skilled worker or engineer/doctor... plus not many in media, art, literature etc etc... which i think are more influential..

ns

 

[Levina]

I have noticed this thing about Indians that while they're abroad they seem to be cooperative, hardworking and broadminded but back home they are opposite. It should be their wish to continue in a foreign country that helps in bringing about these changes in them.

 

[Black Alloy]

Indians integrate well into society's expect when they bring their shitty infanticide to the West and killing baby girls.

 

[Post Colonnial]

I have noticed this thing about Indians that while they're abroad they seem to be cooperative, hardworking and broadminded but back home they are opposite. It should be their wish to continue in a foreign country that helps in bringing about these changes in them.

It's to do with demand and supply I think. In the US or UK, we intrinsically know that in most cases, we can afford to await our turn to get that ticet or seat or toy or goodie. In India if we don't push to the front of the line (physically and metaphorically) some cousin of the MLA's driver's wife will make away with your.

Even in the west see what happens when they have the black friday type of hyped up discount sales at 6am in the morning! crowds wait all night and then when the door opens there is a stampede!

You cannot equate the population to lad mass/resources ratio of the west or even China to India. India MUST do serious work on population control

Indians integrate well into society's expect when they bring their shitty infanticide to the West and killing baby girls.

the so called "west's" treatment of baby girls, boys and goats is well documented. Spare a thought for that too

@Atanz

Secret behind Indians’ success in US | Arab News

 

[xyxmt]

I had quit an interaction with Indians both at the university and after I started working, and this is what i found
1. Indians in American universities study hard the reason, they are found in groups and non-indian students have no interaction with them, no extra curricular activities so all they can do it sit together and study, they help each other by hook of by crook.
2. Every Indian I met in IT industry keeps a large phone book of every Indian in IT that he knows, half of the time they are on the phone getting their problem solved by someone, so the employer pays only one Indian employee and in return gets the entire Indian community working for him.
3. Indians are very obedient to whites, never say no to anything being asked by a white person.
4. because of their obedience they will convince their employer to hire more Indian.
5. you will hardly see one Indian working for any business, they usually have their own corner where a bunch on Indians sit together.

 

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I had quit an interaction with Indians both at the university and after I started working, and this is what i found
1. Indians in American universities study hard the reason, they are found in groups and non-indian students have no interaction with them, no extra curricular activities so all they can do it sit together and study, they help each other by hook of by crook.
2. Every Indian I met in IT industry keeps a large phone book of every Indian in IT that he knows, half of the time they are on the phone getting their problem solved by someone, so the employer pays only one Indian employee and in return gets the entire Indian community working for him.
3. Indians are very obedient to whites, never say no to anything being asked by a white person.
4. because of their obedience they will convince their employer to hire more Indian.
5. you will hardly see one Indian working for any business, they usually have their own corner where a bunch on Indians sit together.

You are right but only until a few years ago. You should really look up how what % of startups are Indian led as well.

You did say IT but Indians are not all in IT.

 

[Viper0011.]

Secret behind Indians’ success in US
The secret to their success lies entirely in education.

Education isn't the only thing. India has built strategic relationships with all major business organizations. Like Donal Trump often says, its not WHAT you know, its WHO you know.

Outside of education, which many other countries have too, the real secrets are:
1) Strategic Partnerships with US businesses (which allowed them to go offshore and bring Indian employees here and once you are in, you work hard, you go up)

2) Strategic Partnerships with the US educational system (who is now producing more Indian Masters and PHD grads than local Americans, so they've set the base to be employed by the American business as they are more educated out of American universities compared to American labor.

3) Marketing: Indians present themselves and India as a very similar society than the US, they act humble (and cocky on this forum or where there is a conversation about Pakistan - India). But in general American work setting, they market themselves and India very nicely. Something I've been telling the Pakistanis on here to do, if they'll listen!!!

3) Hard work and team work, Indians obviously work hard. But, they play a team, an Indian going up, will be supported by other Indians. But, Pakistanis (I've seen it) would backbite anyone going up. There is a total lack of team work in the Pakistanis than Indians in terms of working with their countrymen. But to Americans or Westerner, they both work very hard. But Pakistanis need more laid back team based approach to work to go up. Pakistanis happen to be pioneers of their own thing they do, not so much so in team settings.

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

This is very true indeed! Indians mainly in U.S. come to study in disparate fields here in U.S. and a plurality decides to stay and finds jobs here and they generally marry with educated and working as well which keeps the up and up going. People from most other countries such as Pakistan come mainly as economic migrants and find work in low skill low pay jobs and hence tread differently. However Pakistanis have found huge success as entrepreneurs in the U.S. and even though less educated have generally found their niche and are successful albeit not as much as Indians.

 

[Bharat Muslim]

Secret behind Indians’ success in US

Abdulrahman Al-Rashed

Published — Thursday 27 August 2015

Last update 27 August 2015 2:03 am

One rarely hears bad news about Indians in the United States. In fact, one rarely hears about them in general. Recent studies have focused on communities that arrived from India, as they constitute a large number of the population and it turns out that the Indian community is one of the richest and the most efficient and influential.
The common image of the poor Indian man is the complete opposite of the image of Indians living in the United States, as it turns out that Indians there are one of the richest Asian immigrant communities. The yearly income is $88,000 per household.
The sweeping majority of them have university degrees and most of these degrees are in scientific majors. This is why they are among the best at getting hired and that is why they are better off. In addition, they are new immigrants, as two thirds of them are born outside the United States, so they are not like other deep-rooted groups such as the Jews and Europeans.
The secret to their success lies entirely in education. Poverty and the weak capabilities of the Indian government have not prevented the provision of quality education. This is why most of them attained the right to immigrate to a country such as the United States. They are given preference over immigrants from other countries because they specialize in fields required by the job market.
Therefore, they are granted residency, given jobs and they later attain American citizenship. Some Indians in the United States are now high-profile politicians as well. Men of Indian origin govern two US states and a candidate of Indian descent is running for the Senate post in California next year. More than 40,000 Indian immigrants work as doctors, as is the case in other vital fields.
The moral is that he who wants to overcome his circumstances and difficult times must pay full attention to education, and I mean quality education. Education is the only medical prescription we can agree on when it comes to social and economic solutions. Although all countries provide free public education, only a few of them provide quality education that produces people capable of developing their society

POPULATION! INDIA'S POPULATION IS HIGH. THAT'S WHY.

 

[nForce]

A point to be noted.. We are yet to see any Indian staying in America who uses US flag in both country and location fields of user profile in this forum.