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thats called the mastan effect@Oscar looking at the 6 pages in reverse, is this the Jh7B amnesiac reboot that happens every 6 months?
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thats called the mastan effect@Oscar looking at the 6 pages in reverse, is this the Jh7B amnesiac reboot that happens every 6 months?
LY-80.so pakistan is screwed then to the might of the cbu 105?
what about its horizontal distance?LY-80.
CBU-105 delivery alt is 12000m.
LY-80 max alt is 18000m.
I doubt it will be sent across border with armour.
LY-80what about its horizontal distance?
I am afraid you are mistaking delusional thinking being done on this thread as strategic thinking..Actually I think our nation is getting devoid of strategic thinking
Yes, the C-130 could be used as an effective bomber but they are better suited to act as round the clock attackers rather than carpet bombers. What you are forgetting is that the soviets tried the same tactics of carpet bombing against the Muj back in the 80s.
Its effect is better against civilian populations as a demoralizing effect, but on the front lines against a determined enemy it does not work.
So, please confirm my understanding.
1. Against well entrenched enemy, aerial bombing in general needs to be supported by ground troops. Lessons learnt from Kosovo and Afghanistan.
2. Against enemy on the move under an open sky, or in general gathering up for an attack, aerial bombardment is more effective. Depending on resources available, this can range from smart bombs to cluster bombs.
3. Although we have discussed how a group of F-16s can be a formidable force, let's remember that many of them in PAF inventory are nearing the 8000 hours limit. India could push us into a vicious cycle of luring the F-16s to attack with expensive air to surface munitions, and basically push the aircraft towards their expiry date. Hence, I would prefer to use the C-130 as a bomb truck.
4. Against advancing Indian strike corps, I see room for the C-130 in to form of 'attack of opportunity'. I expect these to be far and few.
hq-16?
or just simply having a aerial support. pakistan k8's have been armed with the pl5e series missile
Nowadays, you'll need stealth bombers with the proliferation of mobile air-defense systems that will accompany any strike forces or at least cover them under its radar range..Simple question: Do they even exist? Do we have any plans to acquire any? Once air-superiority is achieved, bombers would be an effective way to counter advancing strike corps. I wonder if any attention has been given to this aspect?
Sadly so, read my post for an insight into why.@Oscar looking at the 6 pages in reverse, is this the Jh7B amnesiac reboot that happens every 6 months?
1. To remove an enemy you need an offensive force; be it Afghanistan, Germany or the Falklands.So, please confirm my understanding.
1. Against well entrenched enemy, aerial bombing in general needs to be supported by ground troops. Lessons learnt from Kosovo and Afghanistan.
2. Against enemy on the move under an open sky, or in general gathering up for an attack, aerial bombardment is more effective. Depending on resources available, this can range from smart bombs to cluster bombs.
3. Although we have discussed how a group of F-16s can be a formidable force, let's remember that many of them in PAF inventory are nearing the 8000 hours limit. India could push us into a vicious cycle of luring the F-16s to attack with expensive air to surface munitions, and basically push the aircraft towards their expiry date. Hence, I would prefer to use the C-130 as a bomb truck.
4. Against advancing Indian strike corps, I see room for the C-130 in to form of 'attack of opportunity'. I expect these to be far and few.
Bismillah ir Rahman ar RaheemThe UAEAF preferred the M2Ks as their strike fighters. The Black Shaheen was designed specifically to give the UAE a standoff capability and so far the Block-60s have nothing comparable to show for it.
"The Vietnamese would barely hear it coming as it was pushing the mach and was really low, hence the nickname. That tactic, low and fast, became THE doctrine until the third night of Desert Storm. The phrases “speed is life,” “one pass, haul ***,” and “you do more than one pass in a target area you die” all came from Vietnam."Clearly one large aircraft cannot cover the required ground on its own even with effective UAV coverage as it will have to make multiple passes to cover each avenue of attack even with smart munitions.
The M2K-9 still had a pretty fearsome package of weapons with itBismillah ir Rahman ar Raheem
I believe Khafee was referring to the electronics warfare side of things.
Agree entirely. The UAEAF reportedly felt that the F-16 Blk 60's main failing was lack of Black Shaheen (Storm Shadow) type missiles and that is one reason why they have been keeping the M2Ks around until they can get Rafales or something they can freely integrate Storm Shadow type weapons to.The M2K-9 still had a pretty fearsome package of weapons with it
http://www.dassault-aviation.com/wp...iles/2012/08/Mirage_2000-9_special_issue1.pdf
@MastanKhan, you are right I am being silly, should have remembered the famous Mark Twain quote which I will modify a bit so as to no offend you "Never argue with a ___, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference". Please accept my apologies Sir and continue regaling us with this novel concept of "flanking".