Who's killing India's Secularism?

[adil_minhas]

Bingo.

You will continue to get the honesty we are known for.

 

[Tshering22]

You know what I really don't understand? When people keep saying I am angry when my writing has conveyed nothing of the sort.

Your use of terms made me think that you are angry.

My point was based on what news reports we read and since we don't live in Egypt we can only go by them.

If you can help us clarify the reality, please tell us.

You aren't stating any facts at all. What does organized religion have to do with anything? You do realize that Buddhism,Sikhism are all organized religions too right?

No. They aren't.

Religion is a term that was introduced to us by the European colonists.

It was never the way it is made out to be. Thanks to these colonists, our entire history and image got twisted.

We aren't organised religions.

PM me if you'd like to discuss on this in detail as I wouldn't want to waste bandwidth on the thread and deviate.

 

[salarsikander]

Discrimination is not the reason. It goes deepe

Ofc it is. Which why even famous Indian Muslim actors are denied a good residence in uptown neighborhood in Delhi. Could share and compare the HDI of Kashmir with other non Muslim majority states of India ?

 

[StraightShooter]

Ofc it is. Which why even famous Indian Muslim actors are denied a good residence in uptown neighborhood in Delhi. Could share and compare the HDI of Kashmir with other non Muslim majority states of India ?

The primary reason why muslims are denied renting hindu homes is because they eat beef.

Once a kitchen has been used to cook beef then that kitchen is no longer good for a practicing Hindu for use again. So other potential Hindus would not like to occupy it again.

 

[salarsikander]

But salar bhai, aap (see I'm trying to work on my tu tarrak) Pakistaniyon ka problem kya hai?

Hinduon se takrar to hai. Woh jayaz hai.

Lekin aap logon ko hum musalmanon se bhi hazaar purani nafratein hain.

Bura mat manna Bhai, lekin mujhe to lagta hai aap, Haviz or kuch aur Pakistaniyon se baat karke, aur aapke Hindustani musalmanon ke baare mein vichaar sun ke, ki aap log Hinduon ko gande samajhte hain, lekin unke khauf se sahme hue hain. Dare hue hain.

Lekin Hindustani musalmanon se to aap yakeenan nafrat karte hain. Unhe kam musalman samajhte hai. Buzdil samajhte hain. Aur gaddar.

Aap lakh inkaar bhi karein, mera yeh nazariya ab mushkil se hi badlega aap logon ke baare mein.

Khuda Hafiz.

First of all we aren't scared of anyone especially Hindus.
Secondly, I don't understand your people whining. I personally find hypocritical. You hate Kashmiri's and you question my ancestors decision on support a separate land forMuslims. You say that we cheated on something.
If you knew anything about Islam. Price of land or dirt has no vale in Islam. We are Muslim first then ganga or Pakistani for that matter. You lot didn't lend support to Pakistan at very crucial time and yet now you have the audacity to question my ancestors. The things is you lot were given a choice,nwhich you didn't accept. Now live with consequence and don't moan.

Though if you ever come to Pakistan, I will be the first person greeting you and god willing supporting too. But the reality is, this is the age of Hindus and there's nothing more you can do about it,.
Just stay nsafe and low and avoid unnessary quarrels with people in power.
You will have to live as told, sadly

The primary reason why muslims are denied renting hindu homes is because they eat beef.

Once a kitchen has been used to cook beef then that kitchen is no longer good for a practicing Hindu for use again. So other potential Hindus would not like to occupy it again.

Could be, but it goes way deeper. Momidan are unclean

 

[adil_minhas]

First of all we aren't scared of anyone especially Hindus.
Secondly, I don't understand your people whining. I personally find hypocritical. You hate Kashmiri's and you question my ancestors decision on support a separate land forMuslims. You say that we cheated on something.
If you knew anything about Islam. Price of land or dirt has no vale in Islam. We are Muslim first then ganga or Pakistani for that matter. You lot didn't lend support to Pakistan at very crucial time and yet now you have the audacity to question my ancestors. The things is you lot were given a choice,nwhich you didn't accept. Now live with consequence and don't moan.

Though if you ever come to Pakistan, I will be the first person greeting you and god willing supporting too. But the reality is, this is the age of Hindus and there's nothing more you can do about it,.
Just stay nsafe and low and avoid unnessary quarrels with people in power.
You will have to live as told, sadly


Could be, but it goes way deeper. Momidan are unclean

In my experience here on PDF, Pakistanis whose parents or grandparents came from India, hate Indian Muslims the most.

You. Haviz. Areesh. Hafeez Saeed. Zia. The list is long.

 

[StraightShooter]

Could be, but it goes way deeper. Momidan are unclean

Cleanliness is a issue for eating only (i.e. if I were to eat at your home or even at homes of other hindus who do not adhere to cleanliness practices) not for denying you to rent my home.

For example, within my own home people are not allowed to enter the Kitchen without taking bath.

The reason being everything that is cooked would be offered to the god before we eat. So we cannot use the same kitchen which was used for cooking beef to cook food that would be offered to the god. It's a big No No.

 

[salarsikander]

Cleanliness is a issue for eating only (i.e. if I were to eat at your home or even at homes of other hindus who do not adhere to cleanliness practices) not for denying you to rent my home.

For example, within my own home people are not allowed to enter the Kitchen without taking bath.

The reason being everything that is cooked would be offered to the god before we eat. So we cannot use the same kitchen which was used for cooking beef to cook food that would be offered to the god. It's a big No No.

That could be the one of issues.

 

[BATMAN]

India was never a secular country not even for one day.
Hindus started genocide of minorities from 14Agust 1947.
India is a state with highest human rights violation in entire history of world.
Hindus are worst than Nazi evil but India has US on his side, this is why UN and Pakistan FO keep eyes closed.

 

[salarsikander]

In my experience here on PDF, Pakistanis whose parents or grandparents came from India, hate Indian Muslims the most.

You. Haviz. Areesh. Hafeez Saeed. Zia. The list is long.

Why would I hate ?
Hate is strong word. Just dislike when they go on to question the wisdom of oir ancestor making the right choice. Where as you people are feeling the heat and now crying is quite hypocritical. Your fist few threads were very obnoxious though

 

[StraightShooter]

That could be the one of issues.

That is not one of the issues but it is the main issue.

I would rather rent my home to Irfan Khan who is a vegetarian than a Malayalee Hindu who eats beef.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

I would rather rent my home to Irfan Khan who is a vegetarian than a Malayalee Hindu who eats beef.

Bingo. Beef is unacceptable. Not on my property.

 

[Hindustani78]

Do you know ofnizams ? My ansectors hail from deccan and quite land, all gone now for Pakistan. Whereas when they came here they were piss poor, people helped us here to resettle and welcomed us. The poor Indian distant families also came. Like I said the ones who opted to stay in rashtra must now face the consequences and pay the price. The age of glorious rules of Muslim rule had come to an end, when this was realised and with immense standing of Hindus and marginalisation it was decided that a separate land should be carved out. Whi h happened. So now you cannot really say anything to what is happening. The age of Hndu rule is here and will be for a longtime to come. Emigrants mulism knew that and took the wise choice, the rich ones who wanted tonstay with wealth are still there,crying and moaning

People of Dakkan e Hind have rejected Partition and infact Osman Ali Khan was even against the idea of partition and those who have immigrated were less in numbers, British made Muslim league was having no support all over Hindustan that even in NWFP , partition was denied.

Indian Aryans be from any religion have been always united against Colonists and the Aryans and Muslims of Hind were supported by the Arabs, Turks and Africans . They all were standing against all odds.

About the Glorious Muslim rule which you are talking then you should understand that Aryans and Arabs are having good relations that even during the time of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh, Aryans and Arabs have stayed united.

I'm talking about occupied religious scared lands of india . who is the occupier ? Who has occupied them from Indians ? Is that occupation internationally recognised as such ?

Still haven't gotten anything related to what I asked in context

Chinese are occupying holy lands of Indian nation and no one on earth deny that holy places of Indian and Arab nation have to be liberated. Inshallah , our holy lands will be liberated.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

People of Dakkan e Hind have rejected Partition and infact Osman Ali Khan was even against the idea of partition and those who have immigrated were less in numbers, British made Muslim league was having no support all over Hindustan that even in NWFP , partition was denied.

Indian Aryans be from any religion have been always united against Colonists and the Aryans and Muslims of Hind were supported by the Arabs, Turks and Africans . They all were standing against all odds.

About the Glorious Muslim rule which you are talking then you should understand that Aryans and Arabs are having good relations that even during the time of Prophet Muhammed Pbuh, Aryans and Arabs have stayed united.





Chinese are occupying holy lands of Indian nation and no one on earth deny that holy places of Indian and Arab nation have to be liberated. Inshallah , our holy lands will be liberated.

What are you always on mate?

 

[Hindustani78]

What are you always on mate?

Everyone do have thier own agenda's on this forum but we Indians are aware who are our real friends and on whom we should count on and where Indian nation is being hurted and who is hurting our national interest.

National Soveriginity and Territorial integrity , this is what important for majority of Indians.