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WHO WAS BEHIND LAHORE 3/3 Terror Attacks

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Ruby its failure of media to a very big level.

Pakistan might say what ever about Indian media, Some of it might be true aswell.But when it came to the time of being counted.Indian media did a great job they really got whole country on their feet. And politicians on their knees.
Pakistan lack that touch right now,Country is still not awake. I hope people do somethign about this and don't let this case get away.
It was a big attack right on the pride and self respect.People of pakistan need to wake up to it. And take an example from india.

No the media did indeed give wide coverage to the issue. But much of the hue and cry have been directed against Indian involvement. With people like Zaid Hamid on TV do you think people will realize the gravity of the situation and the best course? They will instead think of how this incident should be avenged instead of how this was made possible.
A few guys will talk about how RAW is notorious for things like this. Some more will ask for soul searching. Some were dedicated to how cooperative Srilanka was.
In between all this, the bandwidth left for the responsibility part is very less. SO generally there will be lesser reaction from people.
I don't think media is doing that bad.
Its only that the favourite part of most media persons is the Indian involvement. Even if it not the favourite part, it sells. So why bother writing something else?
This selling part applies to Indian media too. But the serious elements of media do not let the focus away because there is an established practice over the years and there are enough number of people who raise important questions. So the situation is better.
 
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Excellent Post..Pakistanis have to stop supporting Jihadhi Mindset otherwise they can forget :pakistan: it forever.I really like the way Indians love their country.
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Cannot agree more.
Many Pakistanis dream of achieving great things for Islam(like elimination of some other religions ) under a single flag even assuming that all Islamic countries will come assemble under such an ideology. But the fact remains in the world. Each country for its own and its own good. Ideologies are only to justify partnerships.
 
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To understand the fact that India is behind most of the terrorism in Pakistan if not all, one does not need to have a jihadi mindset and like wise every terrorism act should not be labeled as the doing of a jihadi outfit just because bosses sitting in the US does not like the idea of getting India involved even when facts would point in that direction. Like Kharaiyan beast said in one of his post that proof is there, balls are absent, couldn't agree more.
 
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Reasons for which Pakistani members believe that RAW is involved in the attack-

1. India is Pakistan's enemy.

2. India has intelligence agency namely RAW.

3. India is responsible for 1971 partition.

4. BCCI has 80% share in cricket wealth. By doing this, it will become 85%.

5. India guessed it right about security of cricket team in Pakistan.

6. India had 26/11.

7. Hindu extremists said "we are making suicide bombers".

8. Terrorists in Lahore incident ran away in few minutes and Indians are coward. :bunny:

9. Zaid Hamid says so.

10. Pakistani youth prefers Urdu over Punjabi. :undecided:

11. Pakistani government is corrupt.

12. India blames Pakistan for Mumbai massacre.

13. Indian media is immature.

14. Salman Taseer has Sikh wife and 'Sikh son' from her. :crazy:

15. US investigators keep coming to Pakistan.

16. India supports LTTE.

17. India demanded that Pakistan should be declared as 'terrorist state'.

18. MS Dhoni said "thank God, we are not in Pakistan".

19. Pakistan helped SL to get over LTTE.

20. It has to be India.

I am sure you can add a few in this list. Go on. :enjoy:

Disclaimer: NO reason is imaginary. You can find each one of them on one thread or the other.
 
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Some more reasons Communist gave me:
Indira Gandhi called 1971 as "1000 years revenge".(I challenge this)
Nixon called her a ****** and Indians bastards.
India plotted Maldives coup(I challenged this too), harasses Nepal, Bhutan etc.,
 
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Some more reasons Communist gave me:
Indira Gandhi called 1971 as "1000 years revenge".(I challenge this)
Nixon called her a ****** and Indians bastards.
India plotted Maldives coup(I challenged this too), harasses Nepal, Bhutan etc.,

Oh yes, and also there was -

RAW cannot prove its innocence. :lol:
 
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Reasons for which Pakistani members believe that RAW is involved in the attack-

1. India is Pakistan's enemy.

2. India has intelligence agency namely RAW.

3. India is responsible for 1971 partition.

4. BCCI has 80% share in cricket wealth. By doing this, it will become 85%.

5. India guessed it right about security of cricket team in Pakistan.

6. India had 26/11.

7. Hindu extremists said "we are making suicide bombers".

8. Terrorists in Lahore incident ran away in few minutes and Indians are coward. :bunny:

9. Zaid Hamid says so.

10. Pakistani youth prefers Urdu over Punjabi. :undecided:

11. Pakistani government is corrupt.

12. India blames Pakistan for Mumbai massacre.

13. Indian media is immature.

14. Salman Taseer has Sikh wife and 'Sikh son' from her. :crazy:

15. US investigators keep coming to Pakistan.

16. India supports LTTE.

17. India demanded that Pakistan should be declared as 'terrorist state'.

18. MS Dhoni said "thank God, we are not in Pakistan".

19. Pakistan helped SL to get over LTTE.

20. It has to be India.

I am sure you can add a few in this list. Go on. :enjoy:

Disclaimer: NO reason is imaginary. You can find each one of them on one thread or the other.

Bulls eye. 600 posts about 20 points.
They can't succumb to the fact that India is not involved. India has never been a revenge oriented country.

The underlining thing in all these allegations is, that somewhere within all Pakistanis believe their country was involved in 26/11, cuz only then can they talk of revenge And yet I see posts that Indian diplomacy has failed. Ironic.
 
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Go through this article...

Immediately after the terror assault on the visiting Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore, several Pakistani politicians, media personalities and a former ISI chief tried to put the blame on India for the attack, claiming that it was a reprisal for Mumbai’s 26/11. This was more than just an unthinking knee-jerk reaction; it was a galvanic twitch, a symptom revealing the deep-seated neural disorder that has afflicted Pakistan ever since its genesis and which, untreated, has now brought it perilously close to being if not a failed state at least one best put in quarantine. The real disease that is destroying Pakistan is not the Taliban; the Taliban — both the ‘bad Taliban’ and the ‘good Taliban’, as the US would have it — itself is a symptom of an underlying pathology: a monomaniacal hatred and fear of India.
It is this single-point non-agenda that led to the birth of Pakistan; it is the same agenda that has dictated all its policies, in foreign and domestic affairs, for more than 60 years; it is the same agenda which today has brought it to the brink of political, social and economic bankruptcy, dreaded and shunned by the international community.
When is Islamabad going to realise what it ought to have realised long ago: that far from being its most implacable enemy which has to be fought to mutual death if necessary, India ought to be, and could be made to be, its staunchest ally, its closest friend and its last and only hope of survival?
If that sounds preposterous that is only because we in India have over the years of hostility possibly been almost, if not equally, brainwashed as Pakistanis into believing that perpetual ping-pong vendetta with our neighbour is part of our collective karma, engraved into our national genetic code. Far from being a utopian pipe dream, an ‘Indi-**** bhai-bhai’ scenario is the only solution to Pakistan’s escalating problems which threaten to plunge the whole region into catastrophic turmoil which could lead to nuclear Armageddon if extremist militias, swiftly gaining ascendancy there, wrest control of Islamabad’s nuclear arsenal from the state and the army.
Why should the people of Pakistan — the politicians, the businessmen, the farmers, the students, the media commentators, as distinct from the army, the ISI, and the ISI-created terror militias which have now turned against their creators — try to overcome their self-destructive paranoia about India? For several good reasons. It is widely acknowledged that the best antidote to Pakistan’s lifethreatening malignancies is a health-restoring infusion of democracy. In an embattled South Asia, from Sri Lanka, through Nepal and Bangladesh to Pakistan itself, India stands out as the lone beacon of democracy, about to embark on general elections which represent the biggest democratic exercise in the world.
As a democracy and an open society where a vigilant media is quick to bring any dirty tricks to public light, India can’t and wouldn’t, through RAW or any other agency, export terror to Pakistan as Pakistan’s ISI has allegedly been doing to India. Instead of trying to subvert Pakistan, it is in democratic India’s best interests to ensure greater stability for its unruly and volatile neighbour, so that the cost of constant conflict that is crippling both countries can be brought down and both parties can get on with the daunting task of combating the global slowdown and protecting the interests of the aam aadmi on both sides of the border.
Sceptics will say there isn’t a hope in hell that Pakistan could ever bring itself to think of India as a potential friend instead of a predestined foe. And perhaps they’re right. Perhaps there isn’t any hope; only a mutually inflicted hell that both Pakistan and we must face. Are we, in Pakistan and in India, ready and willing to accept that?
 
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Oh And also this.....

Lahore: A little-known militant Muhammad Aqil has been identified by Pakistani security agencies as the mastermind of the audacious attack on
Sri Lankan cricketers here, but raids across the city to nab him proved futile as he managed to escape.

The security agencies conducted raids at several places after identifying Aqil, who has links to a banned militant group. However, the name of the group was not revealed.

Preliminary probe suggests LeT footprints in Lahore attack

Though Aqil, who hails from Kahuta, managed to escape, his accomplice Talat was captured, Geo News channel quoted sources as saying.

Talat and Aqil had been living a in flat near the Liberty traffic roundabout, where the Sri Lankan team was attacked on March 3 by a dozen gunmen who ambushed its luxury bus, leaving seven players and an assistant coach injured and eight people dead.

Talat purchased a mobile phone SIM that was used by the terrorists involved in the attack, Geo News reported. Aqil masterminded the attack and was also in-charge of its execution, it added.
 
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I dont hate pakistan, i dont hate pakistani's i have quite some pakistani friends in US... They all criticize what is happening between India and Pakistan... Instead of Pakistani's blaming India for all the things happening in the country.. (Based on the word by politicians) They should demand clarifications from the politicians..People believe what the politicians tell them and they act upon it. I have been going through the thread and i have seen wired claims with outrageous proofs like a letter that caims to have not to be released to the indian government / cops and it got in the hands of the forum members regarding 26/11 attacks in India...

Cant people get united and fight this terror!!? Every body knows that the terrorists have made pakistan and afghanistan their hub and the politicians are not doing anything about it... cant both India and Pakistan get together and fight.. or its just going to go on like this.. !!!
 
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Remember?? Or are you numb, you can remember??
Look! Peaceful Democractic Islamists nationalists:
Who Dat?

LJ blamed for attack on SL team

Sunday, March 22, 2009

By Salis bin Perwaiz

KARACHI: The intelligence agencies probing the March 3 attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team in Lahore have named the banned Lashkar-i-Jhangvi as the group behind the incident. A detailed report of the findings has been submitted to the government.

On March 3, armed men opened fire on the Sri Lankan cricket team’s bus, killing at least eight people and wounding six team members. The 12 terrorists attacked the team’s convoy near the Liberty roundabout when it was heading towards the Gaddafi Stadium. The convoy was attacked with rockets, hand grenades and automatic weapons, triggering a 25-minute gunbattle with the security forces. An inquiry was initiated to probe the tragic incident after the outcry that followed the attack.

Senior officials of various intelligence agencies began investigations into the attack and managed to collect detailed information on the various militant outfits that were among the prime suspects. A senior official involved in the probe revealed, on condition of anonymity, that certain important arrests had been made in Karachi and other parts of the country in connection with the attacks. The team probing the incident had reached its conclusions after gathering video footage, taking eyewitness statements as well as evidence from the site of the terrorists attack.

The officer maintained that during the course of investigations, it has emerged that Matiur Rehman of the Lashkar-i-Jhangvi was the mastermind of the terrorist attack, while Mohsin (who was involved in the Rawalpindi attack on Gen Pervez Musharraf, also attributed to the Lashkar-i-Jhangvi) was present during the Lahore attack. The senior official believes that the attack was planned with the coordination of the Baitullah Mehsud group
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The trail of the Lahore tragedy leads back to Karachi. A Hyundai car, bearing registration number PG-2959, that was used in the attack on the Sri Lankan team in Lahore originally belonged to a resident of the city. During verification, it was found that the yellow cab taxi was purchased by Azizullah Ansari, a resident of Karachi, in the year 1994. The investigators approached Azizullah, who disclosed that he had sold the car on June 16, 2003 to Agha Gul Zaman of Lahore, who met him with his brother Tughlaq Zaman.

The investigators then located the Zaman brothers in Lahore who disclosed that about 10 to 11 days before the March 3 attack, some persons visited their shop in Lahore, wanting to purchase the taxi. After the deal was struck, the taxi was sold after the brothers took the CNIC and cell phone number of the new owner. The brothers further told the investigators that two days after the purchase, the buyer called them and asked for the route permit as he wanted to drive the taxi in Lahore. The Zaman brothers agreed to their request of handing over the permit, but were surprised to find the cell phone of the persons who had purchased the taxi was not responding.

According to the senior official, when the investigators were directed to verify the copy of the CNIC, it was found to be fake. So were the other documents provided by the suspects to the sellers of the taxi.

Meanwhile, the terrorists hastily painted the car white and used it during the March 3 attack.

The secret agencies are convinced, after conducting a thorough investigation and sifting through large amounts of evidence, that the Matiur Rehman group of the Lashkar-i-Jhangvi had masterminded and carried out the Lahore attack while the Lashkar-i-Taiba, which was accused by India among others to be the prime suspects, was not involved in this particular attack
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:wave::wave: How y'all been? Now that you got street democracy n all, having fun yet?
 
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Friday March 20, 2009

By Dr. Raja Muhammad Khan

The broad daylight attack on Sri Lankan cricket team on March 3, is really a matter of anguish for everyone in Pakistan, Sri Lanka and the world in general. The incident has gravely demoralized the world of sports. This occurrence in the heart of Pakistan, in Lahore, otherwise considered to be a comparatively safe and cultural city of Pakistan has caused eight deaths besides injuring six players of the Sri Lankan cricket team. None out of almost a dozen heavily armed attackers could be arrested by the law enforcement agencies and Lahore police.

These events indicate a huge security lapse made for the visiting team, at a time when there were confirmed reports that Sri Lankan team would be attacked either en-route from hotel to stadium or else within the stadium during the game. The attackers which appeared to be in their early twenties, had bags on their backs filled with weapons, ammunition and eatables mostly in the form of dry fruit, thus having dedicated mission to implement. In the video the attackers were seen moving freely before, during and even after the attack, either; on foot, motorbikes or rickshaws. The happening on the one hand speaks of poor security arrangements made for the visiting team, while on the other, is indicative of the fact that the attackers were well trained and had methodically rehearsed their actions before final blow on March 3. Before going over to the implications of attack; it is considered appropriate to know the background of attackers and their true motives.

Mr. Rehman Malik, advisor to the Prime Minister on internal affairs, said: "We suspect a foreign hand behind this incident. The democracy of the country has been undermined, and foreigners are repeatedly attacked to harm the country`s image." United States pointed its fingers towards Al-Qaeda, Taliban and Lashkar-e-Tayyiba and also declared it as a new strategy of attack, `new terrorist strike of choice`. A former White House counter terrorism expert, Juan Zarate opined: "It`s likely that there will be more of these kinds of attacks, which are much more difficult to defend against". There is yet another view from a South Asian specialist who says that elements of Tamil Tiger`s organization, the LTTE might have been involved in this attack. Some analysts are even trying to establish a linkage between elements of LTTE and some Pakistan-based banned Islamic organisations like Lashkar-e-Taiba etc. A number of people even tried to link it with the Mumbai attacks of November 26, 2008.

In reality, this terrorist attack is being viewed differently by various analysts and security experts. No doubt, it was an act of terrorism, scrupulously planned and exceptionally executed by well trained terrorists, whether domestic or foreigners. Sequel to attack, a lot of arms and ammunition stashes including; rocket launchers, rifles, detonators and even 9mm pistols were recovered from the area around the scene of the incident by Lahore police. So far over two dozen people have been arrested on the charges of qualms, mostly from the areas along the Indo-Pak border. To bring the incident in the corrective perspective, it is worth mentioning that subsequent to the Mumbai terror attack; the Indian Government cancelled the scheduled visit of its cricket team to Pakistan. Thereafter Pakistani cricket board requested Sri Lanka for playing a friendly cricket series within Pakistan. India put emphasis on Sri Lankan Government not to send its team to Pakistan. But Sri Lankan Government while upholding its friendship sent its cricket team to Pakistan, thus seriously annoying its hegemonic neighbour, India. On its part, Indian premier intelligence agency, RAW decided to bring a bad taste in the relationship of both countries by incapacitating the series.

After collecting all evidences and information, on January 22, 2009, the Crimes Investigation Department (CID) of Pakistan, reported to Punjab government, that Indian intelligence agency RAW would attack the Sri Lankan team. Unfortunately, owing to the political turmoil and postings of the concerned security officials of the provincial government, all these warnings and alarm bells were ignored as tittle-tattle. After the unbeaten conduct of the attack, Indian officials as a pre-emptive strategy accused Lashkar-e-Tayba, for the conduct of these attacks. Logic provided for this was based on an assumption that this religious outfit indeed wanted to kidnap some players of the Sri Lankan team and later use them for the release of its leader, Zakiur Rehman Naqvi, arrested in connection with Mumbai attacks.

To supplement the disingenuous story of RAW, Indian Foreign, Defence and Home Ministers issued evocative statements. Mr. Pranab Mukherjee even said: "Unless infrastructure and facilities available to the terrorist organisations within Pakistan or territory under its control are completely dismantled, repetition of these incidents will take place". This and many other statements from Indian officials were in fact an effort to project and transmit cynical image of Pakistan to international community that, it is a hazardous country for the conduct of any sports event in the future. This was a clear indication that enemies of Pakistan are not letting any chance to disparage the country. Apart from the overt contemplations by Indian officials, behind the scene RAW was adamant on the theme that, since Sri Lanka had accepted the invitation to visit Pakistan, contrary to Indian desires, therefore she and her host had to be taught a lesson, later transpired in the form of Lahore episode. The timings of the attack on Sri Lankan team cannot be viewed in isolation, nor was the attack a mere coincidence.

Rather, it was worked out meticulously and implemented with utmost impunity. In the 25 years of insurrectionary history of Sri Lanka, the attack was conducted at a time, once the RAW sponsored LTTE had almost lost its infighting with Sri Lankan state forces in February 2009 and its ailing leader Mr. Prabhakaran was airlifted by secret services elements of India to a safer location. Since there have been cooperation between Pakistan and Sri Lanka in defense and security and Pakistan has provided her with necessary military hardware which proved very helpful in quelling the insurgency, therefore India found the occasion as the most opportune to hunt both with a single shot. Thus India drove the wedge in the magnificent relationship of Pakistan and Sri Lanka. While tracing the history, this assault is unique in the sense that, after the Munich incident of 1972, where 11 Israeli athletes were killed, no sports event has ever been targeted in the world. This incident therefore, cannot be considered as coincidence. It was a deliberate assail, aiming for long term effects on Pakistan; both economically and politically.

Already Pakistan has suffered in economy, once owing to prevailing security situation and domestic instability, the Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), has been reduced from 8.4 billion USD in 2006/07 to 40 million in 2008/09. There is a similar sufferance in the political physique of Pakistan on account of such like incidents. Unquestionably, incidents of such magnitude could not have been done by any Pakistani or anyone having even a minutest love for Pakistan and cricket.

Religious organisations in Pakistan would not have done that, mainly because there are neither commonalities of believes nor tangible signs/reasons of acquaintances between LTTE and these Pakistan based religious organisations. Even the arrest of Zakiur Rehman Naqvi by Pakistani authorities is considered to be a precautionary act; otherwise he or anyone else from Pakistani soil is not anticipated to be involved in the Mumbai attack. Indeed, Mumbai attack was a staged managed drama by Hindu fundamentalists aiming at putting a lid on the terrorist activities of Colonel Prashad Srikant Purohit and his Military network, operating against Muslims and Christians alike in India and to eliminate Mr Hamant Kurkara, the fact finder honest inquiry officer of Maharashtra anti-terrorist squad. The hawkish Indian leadership perhaps had in its mind that this would give them an excuse to launch preemptive strikes on Pakistani territory to fulfill its dream of emerging as a regional hegemonic power.

By now, it is hardly a secret that over the years, RAW has drastically contributed in the destabilization of Pakistan through its terrorist network operative in the country. Even today it has thousands of agents intruded inside Pakistani borders to create the nastiest security tribulations. Besides, its previously planted agents, in all eventualities, there is yet another likelihood that, LTTE elements might have been used by RAW for this attack on Sri Lankan team for four obvious rationales: first, the terrorist organisation is basically trained and sponsored by RAW, under `Indra Doctrine`, therefore always acts on its orders to pursue its mission of destabilizing the neighbouring/regional countries; secondly, Sri Lankan cricket team comprises Sinhalese, which are the main target of LTTE; third, Pakistan has been providing the military aid to Sri Lankan Government for its counterinsurgency operations, which had caused distress in the camps of RAW and LTTE, both considered this, as the most appropriate occasion to level the score and fourth; the desperate RAW backed LTTE, after losing the battle in Sri Lanka (Jaffna and surroundings), must have tried to regain its significance by targeting the vulnerable events like cricket; thus demonstrating that the terrorist organisation has the potential to carry out its activities elsewhere, outside the Sri Lankan borders.

Irrespective of the factors responsible for the Lahore terrorist attack, it is very palpable that, the incident was aimed at slandering Pakistan and declaring it, a state utterly unsecure for the conduct of any international event on its soil. It has also placed caution on the visits of foreign nationals in Pakistan, in a way; pushing it towards an economic and political commotion. In the wake of the damaging role being played by RAW, the security of such like events cannot be left to the law enforcing agencies only. Time has come where nation as a whole has to rise to the occasion by becoming fully cognizant of its security intimidation, especially those covert activities, emanating from across the borders. Apart from the national leadership, intelligentsia and the media must play a positive role through a campaign of awareness among the masses of Pakistan against such like incidents in the future.
 
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I am sure that whoever did this is probably laughing at the fact that everyone is producing their own version of the story.

I think the only person to gain from this was India but that is my personal opinion.
 
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