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Church Attack Was According to the Shariah: TTP

Nahin' mate! It's way too complicated to have predicted results.

1. Afghan Talibs hate TTP.
2. TTP hates Afghan Talibs. They are ideological fools, comprised of retards from all over the planet.
3. Afghan Talibs are 100% under our control, always were. Comprise of 100% Pashtuns, no mix whatsoever. No one else is allowed amongst it's ranks.

Now extrapolate based upon the above variables, keeping in mind Afghan withdrawal. My take? TTP would be contained with 10x more efficiency, once the Yanks leave. That would leave us space to maneuver.

CIA has plans for balkanization of pakistan first and then India.Likely pakistan will be broken down and then the jihadis will be diverted to india to carve out kashmir valley.During this time ,CIA could arm maoist factions of india also . CIA has capability to operate independent of US economy as it controls the global drug trade.

CIA is a transnational superpower onto itself.
 
Then even being a troll you didn't spend time with other Indian trolls. All of them consider India to be a superpower or to be soon a superpower. With only evil Kaangress to be the last hurdle. :D

Maoists have implemented there own laws in may parts of India. Good to see your hatred for Shariah. The hate for Islam that all you "secular" Indians share.


Trol like you can blabber anything and wish everbody will lap it up, will you provide even one link of Indian himself claiming to be Supa Powa.

Yes Our hate for Sharia is common since we can see it's sideffects in our neighbour.
 
Nahin' mate! It's way too complicated to have predicted results.

1. Afghan Talibs hate TTP.
2. TTP hates Afghan Talibs. They are ideological fools, comprised of retards from all over the planet.
3. Afghan Talibs are 100% under our control, always were. Comprise of 100% Pashtuns, no mix whatsoever. No one else is allowed amongst it's ranks.

Now extrapolate based upon the above variables, keeping in mind Afghan withdrawal. My take? TTP would be contained with 10x more efficiency, once the Yanks leave. That would leave us space to maneuver.

Keep lulling your Punjabi "friends".

You Pushtoons are smart..

Easier to slaughter a sleeping lamb...no?
 
Don't forget, we run 50% of that drug trade itself! :D

CIA has plans for balkanization of pakistan first and then India.Likely pakistan will be broken down and then the jihadis will be diverted to india to carve out kashmir valley.During this time ,CIA could arm maoist factions of india also . CIA has capability to operate independent of US economy as it controls the global drug trade.

CIA is a transnational superpower onto itself.

Them Punjabiz / Sindhis / Baluchiz are my brothers! Pashtuns are no BD'ians, that we can be so easily manipulated! :D

Keep lulling your Punjabi "friends".

You Pushtoons are smart..

Easier to slaughter a sleeping lamb...no?
 
Then even being a troll you didn't spend time with other Indian trolls. All of them consider India to be a superpower or to be soon a superpower. With only evil Kaangress to be the last hurdle. :D

Maoists have implemented there own laws in may parts of India. Good to see your hatred for Shariah. The hate for Islam that all you "secular" Indians share.



Let them first accept the fact that Muslims are an integral part of there society. Many Indians have problem with accepting this fact.

Accepting Pakistan would come much later after that. ;)

Well put, the soon to be PM is a member of a fascist group BJP/RSS - his ticket to the top job and what do they say about Muslims - evil. So you are right, who can forget the pogroms in Gujurat and also recently Musaffarnagar. However, I have one more item to add, before they can accept Muslims in their midst, they need to accept Hindus too especially the downtrodden hundred of million outcastes, and then after that accept their own women - almost 20 million have been wiped out in a decade. Accepting Pakistan is way down the list.
 
Don't forget, we run 50% of that drug trade itself! :D

The value addition to that drug trade is done by CIA mainly. So they make the profits not afghanistan and pakistan who gets pennies.Already ISI is an appendage of CIA ,so it might be likely that CIA could be using ISI to arm TTP and destroy Pakistan itself.

Sonia Gandhi is also a CIA agent and CIA has infiltrated RAW and has huge influence on corporate western and indian media also.
 
It will be very hard for the army's heavy equipment to operate in the jungles. Likely stopping exploitation of tribal lands by corporates and bringing maoists to mainstream will subdue the movement. Already many maoists have come mainstream due to govt offering homes and money to maoists.Most maoists are from very poor tribal background.

Maoists cannot divide India..

That's the difference between a small and a huge nation.... A big nation has immense reserves to absorb punishment...a small nation like Pakistan will break up.

While India has far more diversity, it ensures that there is no dominant group....groups cancel out each other....

Pakistan has an overbearing exploitative ethnic group of Punjabis who monopolize...no such group in India.

Not easy to break up India...

It will be very hard for the army's heavy equipment to operate in the jungles. Likely stopping exploitation of tribal lands by corporates and bringing maoists to mainstream will subdue the movement. Already many maoists have come mainstream due to govt offering homes and money to maoists.Most maoists are from very poor tribal background.

Maoists cannot divide India..

That's the difference between a small and a huge nation.... A big nation has immense reserves to absorb punishment...a small nation like Pakistan will break up.

While India has far more diversity, it ensures that there is no dominant group....groups cancel out each other....

Pakistan has an overbearing exploitative ethnic group of Punjabis who monopolize...no such group in India.

Not easy to break up India...
 
But you know as well as most there is no single group of talibans and when the government claims they are negotiating the next minute the denial is issued one has hardly if ever engaged in a dialogue with them. And when there is a ceasefire its broken by drones. As I have last heard there are some groups who are against suicide bombing as well as long as they are not droned. The fanatics have to be singled out so that they don't get the glorified image that attracts those who have no idea what Sharia says and what not and support them.



Pakistan Makes Drones Necessary

By Lisa Curtis

One of the central campaign platforms of newly elected Pakistani prime minister Nawaz Sharif was a promise to curb the use of U.S. drones on Pakistani territory. Indeed there has been a sharp reduction in the number of drone attacks conducted in Pakistan this year compared to the last three.

But until Islamabad cracks down more aggressively on groups attacking U.S. interests in the region and beyond, drones will remain an essential tool for fighting global terrorism. Numbering over three hundred and fifty since 2004, drone strikes in Pakistan have killed more than two dozen Al Qaeda operatives and hundreds of militants targeting U.S. and coalition forces.

President Obama made clear in his May 23 speech at the National Defense University that Washington would continue to use drones in Pakistan’s tribal border areas to support stabilization efforts in neighboring Afghanistan, even as it seeks to increase transparency and tighten targeting of the drone program in the future. Obama also defended the use of drones from a legal and moral standpoint, noting that by preemptively striking at terrorists, many innocent lives had been saved.

The most compelling evidence of the efficacy of the drone program came from Osama bin Laden himself, who shortly before his death contemplated moving Al Qaeda operatives from Pakistan into forested areas of Afghanistan in an attempt to escape the drones’ reach, according to Peter Bergen, renowned author of Manhunt: The Ten-Year Search for Bin Laden from 9/11 to Abbottabad.

How to Reduce the Need for Drones

The continuation of drone strikes signals U.S. frustration with Pakistan’s unwillingness to crack down consistently and comprehensively on groups that find sanctuary in Pakistan’s tribal areas. There continue to be close ties between the Pakistan military and the Taliban-allied Haqqani Network, which attacks U.S. forces in Afghanistan and undermines the overall U.S. and NATO strategy there.

The most recent U.S. drone attack inside Pakistani territory occurred last week against militants from the Haqqani Network located in North Waziristan, along the border with Afghanistan. In early June, drone missiles also targeted a group of fighters in Pakistan that were preparing to cross over into Afghanistan. On both occasions, the Pakistani Foreign Ministry condemned the attacks as counterproductive and said they raised serious questions about human rights.

No doubt a better alternative to the drones would be Pakistani action against terrorist sanctuaries. But Pakistan has stonewalled repeated U.S. requests for operations against the Haqqani network.

In addition to continuing drone strikes as necessary, the U.S. should further condition military aid to Pakistan based on its willingness to crack down on the Haqqani Network. In early June, the House of Representatives approved language in the FY 2014 National Defense Authorization Act that conditions reimbursement of Coalition Support Funds (CSF) pending Pakistani actions against the Haqqani network. Hopefully, the language will be retained in the final bill.

The United States provides CSF funds to reimburse Pakistan for the costs associated with stationing some one hundred thousand Pakistani troops along the border with Afghanistan. Pakistan has received over $10 billion in CSF funding over the last decade. One must question the worth of having troops stationed in this region if they refuse to go after one of the most dangerous terrorist groups.

Details of the relationship between the Pakistan military and the Haqqani Network are laid out in a recent book, Fountainhead of Jihad: The Haqqani Nexus, 1973–2012 by Vahid Brown and Don Rassler. The book highlights that Pakistan is actively assisting the Haqqani network the same way it has over the last twenty years, through training, tactical field advice, financing and material support. The assistance, the authors note, helps to sustain the Haqqani group and enhance its effectiveness on the battlefield.

Drones Help Pakistan

It is no secret that the drone strikes often benefit the Pakistani state. On May 29, for example, a drone missile strike killed the number two leader of the Pakistani Taliban (also referred to as the Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan or TTP), Waliur Rehman. The TTP has killed hundreds of Pakistani security forces and civilians in terrorist attacks throughout the country since its formation in 2007. Furthermore, the group conducted a string of suicide attacks and targeted assassinations against Pakistani election workers, candidates, and party activists in the run-up to the May elections, declaring a goal of killing democracy.

Complicating the picture even further is the fact that Pakistan’s support for the Haqqani network indirectly benefits the Pakistani Taliban. The Haqqanis play a pivotal role in the region by simultaneously maintaining ties with Al Qaeda, Pakistani intelligence and anti-Pakistan groups like the TTP. With such a confused and self-defeating Pakistani strategy, Washington has no choice but to rely on the judicious use of drone strikes.

Complicated Relationship

The U.S. will need to keep a close eye on the tribal border areas, where there is a nexus of terrorist groups that threaten not only U.S. interests but also the stability of the Pakistani state. Given that Pakistan is home to more international terrorists than almost any other country and, at the same time, has one of the fastest growing nuclear arsenals, the country will remain of vital strategic interest for Washington for many years to come.

Though the drone issue will continue to be a source of tension in the relationship, it is doubtful that it alone would derail ties. The extent to which the United States will continue to rely on drone strikes ultimately depends on Islamabad’s willingness to develop more decisive and comprehensive counterterrorism policies that include targeting groups like the Haqqani Network.
Pakistan Makes Drones Necessary
 
Maoists cannot divide India..

That's the difference between a small and a huge nation.... A big nation has immense reserves to absorb punishment...a small nation like Pakistan will break up.

While India has far more diversity, it ensures that there is no dominant group....groups cancel out each other....

Pakistan has an overbearing exploitative ethnic group of Punjabis who monopolize...no such group in India.

Not easy to break up India...

I partly agree and disagree. Maoists can divide/conquer india . This is because of the level of poverty that exists in India. Already CIA has plans to split Pakistan and India from 2015 onwards start. Likely they might arm the maoists heavily as this faction happens to have maximum power of all the factions till now.

While India has far more diversity, it ensures that there is no dominant group....groups cancel out each other....


Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/pakist...ck-according-shariah-ttp-8.html#ixzz2gqIEMZRK

Yugoslavia was diverse also.
 
Wow. But its bad as it is said by the "bad Taliban!"

Good Taliban declaration is very holy though.

I am not sure about the Talibans exclusive to each province.
 
Don't forget, we run 50% of that drug trade itself! :D



Them Punjabiz / Sindhis / Baluchiz are my brothers! Pashtuns are no BD'ians, that we can be so easily manipulated! :D

Tell that to the afghans....

Taliban would like nothing better than to have a trans Durand entity...that's the US plan too....

Taliban has no interest whatsoever in Indian matters......it's gives a damn to Kashmir

You think US will forgive Pak for actually harboring AQ, why are they then in Afghanistan if not to punish and dismember Pak..
 
Trol like you can blabber anything and wish everbody will lap it up, will you provide even one link of Indian himself claiming to be Supa Powa.

Yes Our hate for Sharia is common since we can see it's sideffects in our neighbour.

You hatred is for a religion. Or hatred is for a group exploiting and misinterpreting that religion. That is the difference between us. And that is going stay. Feel sorry for Indian muslims who are supposed to live with people like you.
 
Tell that to the afghans....

Taliban would like nothing better than to have a trans Durand entity...that's the US plan too....

Taliban has no interest whatsoever in Indian matters......it's gives a damn to Kashmir

You think US will forgive Pak for actually harboring AQ, why are they then in Afghanistan if not to punish and dismember Pak..

USA has been using Al Qaeda all along. Afghanistan is about drugs and controlling pipelines and trying to influence Central Asia. The next phase is about to start . If this phase gets hot.You will see ww3 b/w Russia and West.

You hatred is for a religion. Or hatred is for a group exploiting and misinterpreting that religion. That is the difference between us. And that is going stay. Feel sorry for Indian muslims who are supposed to live with people like you.

I am an indian muslim.There are some who hate,but most don't care if you are muslim or hindu.
 

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