When no one burnt US Flags in Pakistan.
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1959: Cheering Crowd Welcomes US President Eisenhower in Karachi Pakistan.
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Thanks for sharing.
Yes those were the days when Pakistan was on path to progress and prosperity
as a respected member of the global community.
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Interestingly, I saw a picture of Ayub Khan welcoming the America president in one of Nadeem F Paracha's posts.
He also has wonderful colums where it filled with Pakistan from the 60's.
Of Night Keelubs and Heretical Women not wearing the *gasp* Hijab.
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About this same time, Lyndon Johnson, Kennedy's Vice President, visited Pakistan (in 1961). While there Johnson met a group of camel drivers and invited one of them, Bashir Ahmad, to visit the USA. Ahmad came for a visit and the State Department chose my high school in Vienna, Virginia for Ahmad to come to see. I met Mr. Ahmad during his visit (I was a junior or senior). After that, our school, James Madison High School, had annual book drives to collect and send textbooks and other educational books to Pakistan. That was my first acquaintance with Pakistan. Here is a Wikipedia article about Bashir Ahmad: (Note the last paragraph, I was there that day!)
Bashir Ahmad (camel driver)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bashir Ahmad (Urdu: بشیر احمد) (c. 1913 – 1970s)[1] was an impoverished Pakistani camel driver, who in 1961 met with the then US vice-presidentLyndon B Johnson and accepted an invitation to come to America.[2] The vice president soon turned the event into a public relations coup.
Invitation[edit]
Lyndon Johnson was in Karachi, Pakistan on behalf of President Kennedy as part of a goodwill mission, it was here that he met Bashir Ahmad in a group of camel drivers on a roadside. He pressed the flesh even patting the camels. He used a phrase he had regularly said in his travels, "Y'all come to Washington and see us sometime" but was completely surprised when the illiterate camel driver accepted his offer.[3] With the press hot on his heels after the acceptance, the vice-president took advantage of the People-to-People program to fund the Pakistani's travel expenses.[4]
Another account[5] indicates that Bashir was invited to the Vice President's ranch and that the surprise came not at the time (at least from her point of view), but the next day in the press. Ibrahim Jalis, a popular columnist in Pakistan, reported that everyone was excited by the fact that the vice president had invited Bashir to come to America. Perhaps, he had made the above reported statement while shaking Bashir's hand, leading to the misunderstanding that he had been invited. His column was favorable to Johnson, and contained the quote, "Don't conquer a country, don't conquer a government. If you wish to conquer, conquer the hearts of the people."
State visit[edit]
Bashir was personally greeted by vice-president Johnson on his arrival in New York City, Bashir was then invited to Johnson's private ranch in Texas. During his week stay, the Pakistani was also taken to Kansas City, where he met ex-president Harry S Truman, who referred to him as 'your excellency',[2] as well as to Washington D.C., where he was taken to the Lincoln Memorial, Senate Floor and President Kennedy's office.
Finally, at the end of his stay, as a gesture of further goodwill, vice-president Johnson made arrangements for Bashir to visit the Islamic holy city ofMecca on his return to Pakistan, this act of friendship bought tears to the eyes of the destitute camel driver.
Liz Carpenter was Johnson's press secretary. According to Liz Carpenter's account, the press coverage of Bashir's visit was beginning to turn ugly. The vice president visited with several press representatives and convinced them in his trademark fashion to shape the nature of the coverage to avoid an embarrassing incident. One of the things that had been reported was that Bashir might not know about silverware. She reported that the problem was addressed in an interesting fashion. She says, "When we dined together, we had a menu that made it possible for all of us to eat with our fingers, such as fried chicken, stuffed celery, deviled eggs, potato chips. On one such occasion during a visit to Dallas, I looked around the table and saw the presidents of four banks and Neiman-Marcus all eating with their fingers to make the camel driver feel at home."
President John F. Kennedy noted about the visit, "I don't know how Lyndon does it. If I had done that, there would have been camel dung all over the white house lawn." Johnson had taken a risk following through with the invitation, rather than trying to explain his way out of it, had managed the press coverage in an expert and somewhat lucky fashion, and had come out of the whole episode with added credit to his overall reputation.
Escorted by Lady Bird Johnson and Luci Baines Johnson, Bashir visited James Madison High School in the Washington suburb of Vienna, Virginia and was cheered by hundreds of students as he addressed them through an interpreter. James Madison was selected because one of its students was Joy Youngblood, the daughter of Rufus Youngblood; Lyndon Johnson's head of security (and the man credited with possibly saving Lyndon's life some months later in the Dallas shootings).
Bashir Ahmad (camel driver)
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Bashir Ahmad (Urdu: بشیر احمد) (c. 1913 – 1970s)[1] was an impoverished Pakistani camel driver, who in 1961 met with the then US vice-presidentLyndon B Johnson and accepted an invitation to come to America.[2] The vice president soon turned the event into a public relations coup.
Invitation[edit]
Lyndon Johnson was in Karachi, Pakistan on behalf of President Kennedy as part of a goodwill mission, it was here that he met Bashir Ahmad in a group of camel drivers on a roadside. He pressed the flesh even patting the camels. He used a phrase he had regularly said in his travels, "Y'all come to Washington and see us sometime" but was completely surprised when the illiterate camel driver accepted his offer.[3] With the press hot on his heels after the acceptance, the vice-president took advantage of the People-to-People program to fund the Pakistani's travel expenses.[4]
Another account[5] indicates that Bashir was invited to the Vice President's ranch and that the surprise came not at the time (at least from her point of view), but the next day in the press. Ibrahim Jalis, a popular columnist in Pakistan, reported that everyone was excited by the fact that the vice president had invited Bashir to come to America. Perhaps, he had made the above reported statement while shaking Bashir's hand, leading to the misunderstanding that he had been invited. His column was favorable to Johnson, and contained the quote, "Don't conquer a country, don't conquer a government. If you wish to conquer, conquer the hearts of the people."
State visit[edit]
Bashir was personally greeted by vice-president Johnson on his arrival in New York City, Bashir was then invited to Johnson's private ranch in Texas. During his week stay, the Pakistani was also taken to Kansas City, where he met ex-president Harry S Truman, who referred to him as 'your excellency',[2] as well as to Washington D.C., where he was taken to the Lincoln Memorial, Senate Floor and President Kennedy's office.
Finally, at the end of his stay, as a gesture of further goodwill, vice-president Johnson made arrangements for Bashir to visit the Islamic holy city ofMecca on his return to Pakistan, this act of friendship bought tears to the eyes of the destitute camel driver.
Liz Carpenter was Johnson's press secretary. According to Liz Carpenter's account, the press coverage of Bashir's visit was beginning to turn ugly. The vice president visited with several press representatives and convinced them in his trademark fashion to shape the nature of the coverage to avoid an embarrassing incident. One of the things that had been reported was that Bashir might not know about silverware. She reported that the problem was addressed in an interesting fashion. She says, "When we dined together, we had a menu that made it possible for all of us to eat with our fingers, such as fried chicken, stuffed celery, deviled eggs, potato chips. On one such occasion during a visit to Dallas, I looked around the table and saw the presidents of four banks and Neiman-Marcus all eating with their fingers to make the camel driver feel at home."
President John F. Kennedy noted about the visit, "I don't know how Lyndon does it. If I had done that, there would have been camel dung all over the white house lawn." Johnson had taken a risk following through with the invitation, rather than trying to explain his way out of it, had managed the press coverage in an expert and somewhat lucky fashion, and had come out of the whole episode with added credit to his overall reputation.
Escorted by Lady Bird Johnson and Luci Baines Johnson, Bashir visited James Madison High School in the Washington suburb of Vienna, Virginia and was cheered by hundreds of students as he addressed them through an interpreter. James Madison was selected because one of its students was Joy Youngblood, the daughter of Rufus Youngblood; Lyndon Johnson's head of security (and the man credited with possibly saving Lyndon's life some months later in the Dallas shootings).
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I lived and worked in Karachi (63-65) at the old US Embassy there. Arrived shortly after President Kennedy was assassinated. Relations were good, intially, as Pakistan and the US both belonged to both CENTO and SEATO. However President Ayub Khan (Field Marshall Khan) did not want to support SEATO and never provided any Vietnam War effort support.
We did some war-gaming exercises out of Karachi under the CENTO Treaty, which included Pakistan, US, Britain, Turkey, Iran, and a few other nations.
However, once Foreign Minister Bhutto goaded Ayub Khan into initiating border skirmishes up and down the LOC and entire then West Pakistan border with India, US-Pakistan relations were "shot."
My job as a Second, then promoted while serving in Pakistan, First Lieutenant, USAF was as Commander, Det. 2, 6937th Communications Group in Peshawar, my higher headquarters. My "working title" was USAF Liaison Officer to allied and Pakistan civilian and military related departments such as the Pakistan Ministry of Defence; PIA; the Pakistani Foreign Ministry, etc.
I was there during he early months of the 1965 India-Pakistan War. That was a tragic mistake by Ayub and Bhutto.
We all know that modern day relations have been rocky between our two nations. HOWEVER, I have to admit the new President of Pakistan "appears" to be taking a stronger stand against both the Taliban, and of course against al Qaida, than before.
However, I and many Americans are astounded and disagree with Pakistan still wanting to complaint that "we got Bin Laden."
Of course we "got" Bin Laden, as we promised to under both Republican and Democratic Presidents here in the US.
As the Cold War lasted around 50 years, the war on terrorism will not simply "go away" that is naive thinking. It will take many, many years if ever to subdue radical Islam/Wahabbi Islam.
My two cents as an old Pakistan hand from the USAF.
Then a 2nd and lst Lieutenant, USAF, now a retired from the USAF Reserve Colonel (06). About 8 years of my later USAF Reserve service here in the US was as a "weekend reservist" with HQ US Special Operations Command at the level of Assistant Chief of Staff, J-4, Combat Logistics and War Plans, for all branches of the US military and the US Coast Guard.
I volunteered back on brief USAF active duty from my reserve slot with HQ US Special Operations Command to run the entire East Coast of the US Air Lift for Desert Storm I. Much of my USAF work involved various aspects of USAF airlift thru and into, up country to our base at Badabur.
We did some war-gaming exercises out of Karachi under the CENTO Treaty, which included Pakistan, US, Britain, Turkey, Iran, and a few other nations.
However, once Foreign Minister Bhutto goaded Ayub Khan into initiating border skirmishes up and down the LOC and entire then West Pakistan border with India, US-Pakistan relations were "shot."
My job as a Second, then promoted while serving in Pakistan, First Lieutenant, USAF was as Commander, Det. 2, 6937th Communications Group in Peshawar, my higher headquarters. My "working title" was USAF Liaison Officer to allied and Pakistan civilian and military related departments such as the Pakistan Ministry of Defence; PIA; the Pakistani Foreign Ministry, etc.
I was there during he early months of the 1965 India-Pakistan War. That was a tragic mistake by Ayub and Bhutto.
We all know that modern day relations have been rocky between our two nations. HOWEVER, I have to admit the new President of Pakistan "appears" to be taking a stronger stand against both the Taliban, and of course against al Qaida, than before.
However, I and many Americans are astounded and disagree with Pakistan still wanting to complaint that "we got Bin Laden."
Of course we "got" Bin Laden, as we promised to under both Republican and Democratic Presidents here in the US.
As the Cold War lasted around 50 years, the war on terrorism will not simply "go away" that is naive thinking. It will take many, many years if ever to subdue radical Islam/Wahabbi Islam.
My two cents as an old Pakistan hand from the USAF.
Then a 2nd and lst Lieutenant, USAF, now a retired from the USAF Reserve Colonel (06). About 8 years of my later USAF Reserve service here in the US was as a "weekend reservist" with HQ US Special Operations Command at the level of Assistant Chief of Staff, J-4, Combat Logistics and War Plans, for all branches of the US military and the US Coast Guard.
I volunteered back on brief USAF active duty from my reserve slot with HQ US Special Operations Command to run the entire East Coast of the US Air Lift for Desert Storm I. Much of my USAF work involved various aspects of USAF airlift thru and into, up country to our base at Badabur.
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PIA had/has?? some fantastic adverts.
I have heard it said that Pakistan was ahead of India during that time as well
PIA started Emirates, it was one of the first in Asia to have Jet aircraft and the only non communist airline to fly to Beijing and US at the same time.
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man Those PIA ads were really awesomewho did those ads ,domestic ad agencies or americans ??
#PIA was run by #Pakistan's best at that point in time.
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man Those PIA ads were really awesome
Yeah they were.
There are also car ads in the 1960s in Pakistan. They were brilliant too
@Aeronaut top stuff this thread. I await more photos.
Maybe you guys can turn it into a nostalgic thread
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