when Indian and Pakistani citizens are asked 'what are your opinions of your neighbouring country'

[war&peace]

If I could be completely honest, there is absolutely nothing Pakistanis like about Indians except for Bollywood. And that's not even all Pakistanis.

Agreed. Me, my family and most of my friends don't like Bollywood at all.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

Certain tribes have been quite martial and brave, but they lacked efficient leadership and would often fight among each other.

I think the Sikhs pretty much stand out from the rest of the Indian nation. Many serve in the army and have a history of battle experience. Indian Muslims are not considered to be a determined battle hardened people.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

Certain tribes have been quite martial and brave, but they lacked efficient leadership and would often fight among each other.

Rajputs weren't brave. They were literally taking opium before battle which they thought made them more ferocious, but in reality they were just making bad decisions while on the battlefield.

 

[Hamza913]

I think the Sikhs pretty much stand out from the rest of the Indian nation. Many serve in the army and have a history of battle experience. Indian Muslims are not considered to be a determined battle hardened people.

Punjabis in general are pretty battle hardened.

Rile up Hindustani Muslims enough, and they'll come out swinging. Just look at Kashmir or Dawood Ibrahim.

 

[oOo]

The influence on Hindus hasn't been to the same extent. For example, you guys still write in Sanskrit.

Incorrect. Hardly 0.1% knows sanskrit. Hindi speakers write in devnagri lipi, rest language use different. As I said, language doesn't distinguish religion. For the same reason Mughals come up with a language which can be understood by local population and named it Urdu whose 90% words has roots in Sanskrit and Prakrit.

A practising Muslim's moral values will be different to that of a Hindustani Hindu. Only casuals will have similar moral values.

I disagree. The core values hold same, the process differs only that's too limited to how you connect with your God or conduct ceremonies.

 

[Hamza913]

Rajputs weren't brave. They were literally taking opium before battle which they thought made them more ferocious, but in reality they were just making bad decisions while on the battlefield.

They were good fighters, I don't think anyone can deny that.

 

[oOo]

Certain tribes have been quite martial and brave, but they lacked efficient leadership and would often fight among each other.

True but they act in isolation. They were not brave enough to unite and fight together, on opposite you have a battle hardened invaders looking for a kill.

Be honest, we could have done more, including you (if you are not descendant of invaders race). But then most of the Paks I talk to find those invasions as blessing in disguise for them providing an opportunity to embrace Islam. I reserve my opinion on this thought.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

They were good fighters, I don't think anyone can deny that.

They were, but they were not as disciplined as the Muslims. Our religion is practiced in military like discipline.

 

[Hamza913]

Incorrect. Hardly 0.1% knows sanskrit. Hindi speakers write in devnagri lipi, rest language use different. As I said, language doesn't distinguish religion. For the same reason Mughals come up with a language which can be understood by local population and named it Urdu whose 90% words has roots in Sanskrit and Prakrit.



I disagree. The core values hold same, the process differs only that's too limited to how you connect with your God or conduct ceremonies.

I mean you still write in a Sanskrit-like script.

My point was that the Muslim Empires has influenced our culture heavily, and they clearly have.

The core values are not the same. We don't believe in praying to anyone other than God alone, our women cover up completely and don't do ****, we eat meat, statues are a huge no-no, etc (this is for practising Muslims, not the average person who labels himself as Muslim).

 

[Samurai_assassin]

I'm

Incorrect. Hardly 0.1% knows sanskrit. Hindi speakers write in devnagri lipi, rest language use different. As I said, language doesn't distinguish religion. For the same reason Mughals come up with a language which can be understood by local population and named it Urdu whose 90% words has roots in Sanskrit and Prakrit.



I disagree. The core values hold same, the process differs only that's too limited to how you connect with your God or conduct ceremonies.

A constant beliefs from such social media projects was that Pakistanis are taught to hate/kill Hindus.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

I mean you still write in a Sanskrit-like script.

My point was that the Muslim Empires has influenced our culture heavily, and they clearly have.

The core values are not the same. We don't believe in praying to anyone other than God alone, our women cover up completely and don't do ****, we eat meat, statues are a huge no-no, etc (this is for practising Muslims, not the average person who labels himself as Muslim).

Surprisingly, only the Rajput Hindus had their women practice purdah.

 

[Hamza913]

True but they act in isolation. They were not brave enough to unite and fight together, on opposite you have a battle hardened invaders looking for a kill.

Be honest, we could have done more, including you (if you are not descendant of invaders race). But then most of the Paks I talk to find those invasions as blessing in disguise for them providing an opportunity to embrace Islam. I reserve my opinion on this thought.

Uniting isn't easy if you all hate each other, and is based more on intelligence rather than bravery. If anything, going in alone is more brave since the odds are against you.

These invasions were without a doubt a blessing, they gave us Islam. Without these invasions, Islam wouldn't have spread as efficiently. Besides, most of my ancestors willingly chose to convert and join these conquerors in their military conquests, and there are probably a few who came with these conquerors in the first place. Forced conversions are impossible since if that were the case, my ancestors would have gone back to paganism.

They were, but they were not as disciplined as the Muslims. Our religion is practiced in military like discipline.

True.

 

[oOo]

I mean you still write in a Sanskrit-like script.

And you still speak in language derived from sanskrit. No difference much

My point was that the Muslim Empires has influenced our culture heavily, and they clearly have.

So as ours, so what is the point?

The core values are not the same. We don't believe in praying to anyone other than God alone, our women cover up completely and don't do ****, we eat meat, statues are a huge no-no, etc (this is for practising Muslims, not the average person who labels himself as Muslim).

First of all, this is not the core moral value. Its religious value. Core value is we both believe in God. How we connect is different, process is different.

This is biggest misunderstanding about hindus that they beleive in multiple gods...No, they believe in various forms of one Aadi Sakti (The One God). All gods are form of that eternal power only.

Statues are NOT God. Hindus do not pray to that statue. Let me give you an example. When you are away from your family for long and then you get a picture of your mother, did not that picture connect you with her more? So the statue is just a symbolic connection to God. Just like people prefer going to mosque for a pray and in one direction, just a symbolic gesture, though God is everywhere.

Moreover, do you know why Hindu Gods are described having weapons and what not? I will tell you something interesting only if you are interested.

Vegetarian is not a requirement for a hindu. Hindu scriptures are filled of otherwise.

Uniting isn't easy if you all hate each other, and is based more on intelligence rather than bravery. If anything, going in alone is more brave since the odds are against you.

Again you did not get that.

You need unity for what? To fight.
Who who are not brave would unite to fight? No.

Lot of Rajpoot warriors use to call upon help to fight invaders, but of no avail. The other kings simply chickened out and bow to them just to avoid the war.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

I can't even understand what Indians are saying when they speak their language. The parts I can understand sound ugly.

That tere ko mere ko shudra language.

 

[Samurai_assassin]

We've completly moved away from the inital topic