When are you going back to Arabia?’: Chinese Muslims became the target of online hate

[KediKesenFare3]

And yet dozens of Kashmiri Muslim protestors were gunned down by India over the past few months, with countless more blinded by pellet guns.

The Middle East is rife with Muslims killing other Muslims, in Syria, in Iraq, in Afghanistan, across the entire Middle East and North Africa region.

America and NATO have killed around 1 million innocent Muslim civilians in Iraq ALONE. That's not even counting the rest of the conflicts. Westerners are dropping more bombs on the Middle East than they did during the entire European theater of WW2.

And yet somehow it's all about whether or not Chinese Muslims are allowed to have beards? Yes they can have beards, as the video above clearly shows.

I'm not saying your arguments are wrong. But you cannot compare the Shia-Wahabi conflict with American or Chinese policies towards Muslims. The first one is a conflict within the Islamic community. This is 'our' problem we have to deal with. The moment a foreigner (Americans or Chinese) interferes in our community the situation is bound to change and this could be the case for China if the Communist Party stretches a specific point.

That's all I'm saying. Besides, India and China aren't comparable. It may hurt our Pakistani friends but India is much more respected in the Islamic world than China.

 

[Mamluk]

That's all I'm saying. Besides, you India and China aren't comparable. It may hurt our Pakistani friends but India is much more respected in the Islamic world than China.

Indian Hindus are the most Islamophobic people in the world by an insurmountable margin. No other group comes close. You have the luxury of saying that because you are thousands of miles away from them.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

That's all I'm saying. Besides, India and China aren't comparable. It may hurt our Pakistani friends but India is much more respected in the Islamic world than China.

Yes I know the Islamic world respects India, because their Prime Minister is primarily known for butchering thousands of Indian Muslims on the streets of Gujarat. And they are butchering dozens of Kashmiri Muslim protestors as we speak.

Look what Turkey and NATO are doing in the Middle East right now, Syria for example. It seems that the more Muslims that foreigners kill, the more respected they are.

Whereas the big issue is not Syria or the Middle East, or Iraq, or the Kurds (in Turkey, Syria and Iraq), but rather if Chinese Muslims are allowed to have beards? (The answer is yes.) I am glad this is your area of focus, while the Westerners and Muslims are blasting a hole in the Muslim world that will cause damage for multiple generations, i.e. the next few centuries.

If you would rather focus on China, then great. We can take it. And we have been taking it for the last decade already.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

Indian Hindus are the most Islamophobic people in the world by an insurmountable margin. No other group comes close. You have the luxury of saying that because you are thousands of miles away from them.

Exactly. You're right. The only Muslim nation that is supporting Pakistan regarding the Kashmir conflict openly with no hesitation is Turkey. But yet, I cannot change the ground realities. Especially Iran and the Arab world have deep historical relations with India. What's more important is the fact that the Indians are successfully changing their image in the Arab world. They seem less radical and less hateful towards Muslims than Chinese. This is what I'm trying to explain here. Personally, I will always prefere Pakistan over every other nation. Don't get me wrong, please.

 

[Stag112]

China hardens rhetoric against "extremism", not against Islam.

And look at how much India cares about Muslims, after electing a mass murderer of Muslims to be their Prime Minister, and after butchering tens of thousands of Kashmiri protestors over the past few decades. And to top it off, they are STILL shooting down dozens of Kashmiri protestors over the last few months, including a young kid just a few days ago for protesting against them.

When the Indian Prime Minister has butchered thousands of Muslims on the streets of Gujarat, while his fanboys cheer for him, and countless numbers of Kashmiris in unmarked graves, they are now complaining about whether or not Muslims in China are allowed to have beards. And the answer is yes, they can have beards, as you can clearly see in the video above.

Where are all the enlightened Pakistani mods and think tanks with ready advice to Indians

" read the source idiots

Post on topic bozos

Open a new thread if you want to talk about another country troll

Don't shoot the messenger. If you can't write on topic don't write at all bharti

So what happens in one country justifies what happens in another moron?

Learn from think tanks about quality posting dimwits"

Oh that is advice for Indians. This poster is Chini.... ohk continue..

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

This is lame excuse to brush the dirt under the carpet .

Muslims are faced with many difficulties in China let us accept this fact.

When it comes to curbs on religious freedom of Muslims and hate towards them there is no difference between India and China but we opt to bash India while ignore China.

I though as all weather friends, we support each others which mean not to interfere in each other internal business,
you haven't seen any Chinese interfere Pakistan internal affaire, in contrary we gave as much as support we could to deal with those Indians but If our Pakistanis friends want to prove themselves as champion on defending Muslim cause and meddling China internal affaire, we have no problem with that but we will ask for reciprocity.

...Just let said if any Muslim around the world commit any crime, we shall hold Pakistan accountable since you guys feel as duty to defend Muslim cause around the world and you should also be responsible of all their acts in any corner of the world...sound fair to you? if you guys want to trespass our red line and you should expect that we will do the same.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

it is actually much worse. At least Trump was banning muslims from a few small countries with a history terrorism. Here China is going after its citizen because they are muslim! the worse irony is (@The Eagle) sends me a msg that my thread title was doctored though I used exact words from the article!

I think you left out the "How" part but maybe that was because the title was too long to fit.

 

[SHAH820]

smart guy this is from al jazeera not India. seems anti India hatred has made you blind you cannot even read the news source.

lol every negative news about china are posted by indians

 

[Mamluk]

Exactly. You're right. The only Muslim nation that is supporting Pakistan regarding the Kashmir conflict openly with no hesitation is Turkey. But yet, I cannot change the ground realities. Especially Iran and the Arab world have deep historical relations with India. What's more important is the fact that the Indians are successfully changing their image in the Arab world. They seem less radical and less hateful towards Muslims than Chinese. This is what I'm trying to explain here. Personally, I will always prefere Pakistan over every other nation. Don't get me wrong, please.

Arabs and Iranians will not understand the situation we are in, facing existential threat from a 7 times larger subcontinent sized country since day 1.
To them India is Bollywood. To us it's the images of the hindutuva cutting open a pregnant woman's womb in Gujarat, the pellet riddle face of a little Kashmiri girl, the mutilated corpses of our brothers in Kashmir, etc.

And trust me I could care less if the ME was blown back to stone age either by themselves or by other powers.

Turks can sympathize with us - because you faced a similar atmosphere of hate after the collapse of Ottoman empire (however the Russian threat to Eastern Europe took away some of the heat off Turkey, I guess?). One of the reasons we love Turkey.

Also do realize there's an ongoing information warfare going on against Muslims worldwide, and Hindus both in India and the West are actively taking part in it. The hatred/Islamophobia it generates affects all Muslim countries, not just Pakistan.

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(Just an example of what Internet Hindus do in spare time:
Remember this video of some drunk Indians attacking a Chinese family in some Hong Kong train?

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^^Certain Indians have released videos identifying these men as "Muslim pigs" and released them in a couple of websites, drawing Islamophobic condemnations from non-Muslims worldwide.)

 

[lonelyman]

@The Eagle - hey Mod, it wouldn't let me reply to your msg in my inbox about 'doctored' titles. How the hell is this a doctored title when the new article has Islam in it and the last para clearly says 'the government's hardening rhetoric'? I can understand your gratitude to China but this is a new low in sucking up!



it is actually much worse. At least Trump was banning muslims from a few small countries with a history terrorism. Here China is going after its citizen because they are muslim! the worse irony is (@The Eagle) sends me a msg that my thread title was doctored though I used exact words from the article!

Get off your high horse, you are nothing but a troll cherry picking issues in China and sow the discord between China and Pakistan ally.

On the contrary, Muslims in China not only not discriminated, they enjoyed special minority treatment similar to AA in USA. For example, guaranteed quota for government jobs/colleges, universal lower score for university exams, the one child policy only applies to Han, Muslims are free to have many children as they like etc..

Regarding certain hate comments, - first of all every country has extremists, second of all - ongoing the west of demonizing of Muslims negatively affects, third of all - some of the terrorism conducted in China by terrorists does not help. But in general, it's good.

So stop bullshitting here and go back home fix your own issues, I would say no matter which country you are involved - USA or India, is not a good place for Muslim.

I am also surprised to see al jazeera becomes like CNN

 

[TheTravla]

I think the OP suffers from selective amnesia. It's ironic this is coming from a guy who's country has elected the Hindu version of the Taliban. A guy who has blood on his hand in Gujarat and who belongs belongs to a party that was responsible for the destruction of Babri Mosque. The statesmen who's continuing India's rich history of genocide in Kashmir where children and youths have been robbed of their future. Muslim women are scared to walk to their relatives in case they become another statistic which has seen copious amounts of women abducted and raped only to end in one of the many unmarked mass graves in and around the valley along with their menfolk. With every passing day the situation in India gets more tenuous and untenable for muslims.

That's just the muslims. Spare a thought for the Christians or Sikhs[Operation Blue Star] who are victimised, too.

Churchill was right about them...

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The comments are saddening, but it's important for the Chinese to have a positive discourse with one another. When you start mocking a minority within your country those outside will not hesitate to take advantage of the situation.

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Before any Pakistani makes any inane comments just remember that China has done more for Kashmiri Muslims by just the KKH highway alone than all of Pakistans' leaders past and present.

I've always stated my interactions with the people of Chinese origin have always been extremely positive and never has religion been or become a barrier in our friendship with one another. I'm certain that many other Pakistanis-Chinese will experience the same.

Xinjiang thanks to KKH has become an extension of Pakistan. With continued good state/people-people relations with China, a secular mindset, an economically thriving country, Pakistan, can change the negative perception of muslims. Not only will it benefit them, but it'll help enable the Chinese to view their own 20+ million muslims residing in China and the 1+ billion around the world in a positive light.

 

[The Eagle]

@Post Colonnial That was a soft reminder without fraction as no matter what the last line says, title will be the same as article. Next time, before using such language and tagging me as well, think more than twice because I did not disrespect you nor used such words for you neither advertised your mistake or wrong doing that still rather than warning you with fraction, I preferred to remind You softly.

 

[shadows888]

can we close this thread, it's becoming a sausage fest.

 

[帅的一匹]

This is kind of hard to digest for me.
The entire world knows that Pakistanis are majority Muslim.
Chinese regard Pakistan as Friendly but will that feeling change if they get to know that Pakistanis are muslim?

No, Chinese don't take western propaganda. ISIS is an extremely Terrorist group, it has nothing to do with pure Islam. We love Hindu and we love Muslim. You know Budda is coming from Nepal or India. We are nonbeliever , we are friends to all. We don't hold any certain stance to any religion. When it come to India and Pakistan, we favor Pakistan for sure.

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

This is kind of hard to digest for me.
The entire world knows that Pakistanis are majority Muslim.
Chinese regard Pakistan as Friendly but will that feeling change if they get to know that Pakistanis are muslim?

Chinese Muslims have been crucial in bringing Pakistan-China together. Most Chinese in Pakistan are Muslim and there are hundreds of them studying in Pakistani Islamic Universities. They find employement in Pakistan as well, through newly initiated Chinese projects - they are in demand.