What will happen if China and India switch their global position?

[PARAS]

I can refute your points very easily giving you very detailed information from various sources, but genealogy debates are a banned topic in this forum, & they are not even the topic of this thread. This thread is completely derailing, & genealogy has nothing to do with this thread. Your arguments have been refuted many times on this forum, & if you want to find out more, go to this thread:

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-history/7650-ancient-history-not-appreciated-pakistanis.html

Chronological Chart

Stone Age 70,000–3300 BC
· Mehrgarh Culture · 7000–3300 BC
Indus Valley Civilization 3300–1700 BC
Late Harappan Culture 1700–1300 BC
Vedic Period 1500–500 BC
· Iron Age · 1200–500 BC
· Vedic Kingdoms · 1200–700 BC
Maha Janapadas 700–300 BC
Magadha Empire 684 BC– 320 BC
· Maurya Empire · 321–184 BC
Middle Kingdoms 230 BC–AD 1279
· Satavahana Empire · 230 BC–AD 199
· Kushan Empire · 60–240
· Gupta Empire · 240–550
· Pala Empire · 750–1174
· Chola Empire · 250 BCE –1279
Islamic Sultanates 1206–1596
· Delhi Sultanate · 1206–1526
· Deccan Sultanates · 1490–1596
Hoysala Empire 1040–1346
Kakatiya Empire 1083–1323
Vijayanagara Empire 1336–1565
Mughal Empire 1526–1707
Maratha Empire 1674–1818
Sikh Empire 1799–1849
Colonial Era 1757–1947
Modern States 1947 onwards

South Asian Stone Age: Information from Answers.com

first of all the aryan invasion theory has been debunked long ago.

Ancient Aliens - Underwater City of Dwaraka Discovered - YouTube

aryan invasion theorists say that aryans invaded india about in 3500 bc and brough with them hinduism. but this video suggests that there was a city named dwarka which drowned in the indian ocean about 12000 years ago and was ruled by a hindu king.and if sanskrit was the language of hindus then it is not unlikely that the lingua franca of the people of dwarka was indeed sanskrit.

 

[Kazhugu]

first of all the aryan invasion theory has been debunked long ago.

Ancient Aliens - Underwater City of Dwaraka Discovered - YouTube

aryan invasion theorists say that aryans invaded india about in 3500 bc and brough with them hinduism. but this video suggests that there was a city named dwarka which drowned in the indian ocean about 12000 years ago and was ruled by a hindu king.and if sanskrit was the language of hindus then it is not unlikely that the lingua franca of the people of dwarka was indeed sanskrit.

if it interests anyone, Dwarka was the city which was said to be ruled by Lord Krishna......

 

[below_freezing]

USA is the biggest barrier to your freedom! Explain us or Enlighten us please. USA gave your country economic freedom and you feel prisoners of theirs. I am very much confused.

Did the grocery store give you economic freedom? That is the extent of their relationship with us, just business.

Indeed, USA is a barrier to the freedom of 3rd world countries everywhere, and the only way for the majority of the world to live better, and be free of starvation, death and disease, is to suppress the small minority who eat more hamburgers than Africans eat total.

 

[Don Jaguar]

Would this version of India try to annexe Pakistan?

Sure they will!!!

 

[happycanuck]

i was dead serious dragon dude....

Do not shout take a walk on Mumbai beach or better dip into Arabian Ocean. This forum is to have peaceful exchange of views rather than shouting and putting down others. The topic of discussion is very clear and try to stay on that please.

 

[Kazhugu]

Do not shout take a walk on Mumbai beach or better dip into Arabian Ocean. This forum is to have peaceful exchange of views rather than shouting and putting down others. The topic of discussion is very clear and try to stay on that please.

i surrender...

 

[happycanuck]

Punjab & Sindh account for about 65-70% of the population, whereas 30-35% of the population comes from KPK, Balochistan & Gilgit-Baltistan. These people have no connection to India, whereas they have deep historical roots & connections with the historical 'Khorasan', present day Afghanistan, Iran, even Tajikistan & China. Then there is immense migration from Balochistan-KPK to Punjab-Sindh as well, for better job opportunities.

The Indus river is the dividing point, if you go on the Western side of the Indus river, they basically have no connection to India, & even Afghanistan claims the regions West of the Indus river to be part of Afghanistan. Pakistan is a multi-ethnic society, some people have connections to India, many don't. Pakistan basically comprises of Aryans, whereas while there is a little Aryan influence in Northern India, there is much more of a Dravidian influence there, which is much lesser in Pakistan. All of Pakistan belongs to the Indus Valley Civilization, most of India does not belong to it.

Your point well taken. I think it has become the habit of some of you to go off topic.

 

[PARAS]

There was no country back then called "India".

The Buddha was born in what is now present-day Nepal.



In the Western movie Little Buddha, they got Keanu Reeves to play the role of the Buddha. Keanu Reeves is partially of Chinese descent.

the original name of buddha was siddhartha gautam.he was a hindu kshatriya prince and was born in lumbini which is now in modern day nepal.india and nepal were the same entity back then.actually there was no country in the whole world back then.siddhartha got enlightenment in the present city of gaya in bihar under the bodhi tree after which he was called buddha.
he might have been born in nepal but buddhism originated in modern india,not nepal.

there is a mountain range in nepal called mahabharat range.now one wonders how come bharat is included in a mountain range in nepal.the meaning of mahabharat range in english literally is great india range.as bharat is the other name of india like nippon is to japan.this proves nepal was a part of bharat back then.

 

[Kazhugu]

the original name of buddha was siddhartha gautam.he was a hindu kshatriya prince and was born in lumbini which is now in modern day nepal.india and nepal were the same entity back then.actually there was no country in the whole world back then.siddhartha got enlightenment in the present city of gaya in bihar under the bodhi tree after which he was called buddha.
he might have been born in nepal but buddhism originated in modern india,not nepal.

there is a mountain range in nepal called mahabharat range.now one wonders how come bharat is included in a mountain range in nepal.the meaning of mahabharat range in english literally is great india range.as bharat is the other name of india like nippon is to japan.this proves nepal was a parat of bharat back then.

siddhartha gautama was the hindu kshatriya prince of the Kosala kingdom..one of the 16 mahajanapadas of ancient india....

 

[happycanuck]

We don't really want to wage the war against our neighbors, and we are just telling them to stay away from our lands by keeping the pressure on them.

Define your boundaries please. Who is threatening to occupy your land? Are you talking about your dreams to occupy the SCS Islets? How about your illegal occupation of Tibet and Aksai Chin which is part of Kashmir? Look who is talking?

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Define your boundaries please. Who is threatening to occupy your land? Are you talking about your dreams to occupy the SCS Islets? How about your illegal occupation of Tibet and Aksai Chin which is part of Kashmir? Look who is talking?

Illegal occupation?

Not one single nation in the ENTIRE world recognizes Tibetan independence. Not the USA, not Russia, and not even your dear India.

Not even the Dalai lama himself seeks independence.

Dalai Lama: Tibet Wants Autonomy, Not Independence - TIME

On the other hand, Kashmir is internationally recognized as disputed territory.

 

[happycanuck]

Illegal occupation?

Not one single nation in the ENTIRE world recognizes Tibetan independence. Not the USA, not Russia, and not even your dear India.

Not even the Dalai lama himself seeks independence.

Dalai Lama: Tibet Wants Autonomy, Not Independence - TIME

On the other hand, Kashmir is internationally recognized as disputed territory.

I go by the historic records on Tibet. Go and read it on wikipedia to refresh your history. Dalai Lamas statement is for public consumption only. Your country occupies a nation which did not have any Army to defend it self is not called a victory.
You do not represent Kashmiri people it is our internal affairs kindly stay out of it. Try to stay on topic rather than wandering all over the place.

 

[Major Shaitan Singh]

Indian Politician will go Mad

They will make China a India in next 20 yrs.

Swiss bank will overflow...

Imagine Kumb ka mela

The scared cow will get bus ride to the farm

Chat will go online and in facebook.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

I go by the historic records on Tibet. Go and read it on wikipedia to refresh your history. Dalai Lamas statement is for public consumption only. Your country occupies a nation which did not have any Army to defend it self is not called a victory.
You do not represent Kashmiri people it is our internal affairs kindly stay out of it. Try to stay on topic rather than wandering all over the place.

Kashmir is under occupation, check out the United Nations resolutions on the matter. They are the ones who set international law.

Why are the Kashmiri organizations like LeT, bombing your financial capital if they are happy? Why has the Kashmir insurgency been going on for decades, with tens of thousands of Kashmiris being killed?

India promised to give the Kashmiris a "referendum" to decide if they want independence or not. However, India has NOT lived up to this promise.

So it is utter hypocrisy of you to ask the same from a country like China, we don't even claim to be a democracy in the first place. Let shining democratic India give the Kashmiris the referendum that they promised.

You were the first to comment on our internal matters by talking about Tibet. So don't blame anyone else for talking about it.

 

[Kazhugu]

Kashmir is under occupation, check out the United Nations resolutions on the matter. They are the ones who set international law.

Why are the Kashmiri organizations like LeT, bombing your financial capital if they are happy? Why has the Kashmir insurgency been going on for decades, with tens of thousands of Kashmiris being killed?

India promised to give the Kashmiris a "referendum" to decide if they want independence or not. However, India has NOT lived up to this promise.

So it is utter hypocrisy of you to ask the same from a country like China, we don't even claim to be a democracy in the first place. Let shining democratic India give the Kashmiris the referendum that they promised.

You were the first to comment on our internal matters by talking about Tibet. So don't blame anyone else for talking about it.

now that you touched upon a subject you dont know the abcd of let me rebut.....the referendum promised by india was binding on various conditions that should be satisfied by pak like de-militarisation of their kashmir, removal of punjabis/pathan tribesmen from kashmir etc...

you all weather freind has not done it...so no use in blaming india for not holding referendum....

moreover a referendum of sorts was already held in 1953 when the absolute majority voted in favour of sheik abdhullah who in turn ratified the acccession document in the state assembly...so there...the referendum issue is settled....