What stops USA from occupying Pakistan?

[Awesome]

when push comes to shove and if the US and its Allies start diverting their full attention to war like they did in ww2 , you dont stand a chance.

There is a difference in being invaded and occupied. The US can probably roll in, but it cannot stay.

You need to patrol, interact with the people, try to set up a functioning government? Every interaction with the occupiers will result in the local population just trying to kill the occupier. This is not Iraq where US soldiers will go around handing water bottles and they would be cheered. They'll shoot the soldier and take his water too even for being a nice guy.

Occupation of Pakistan is the ultimate sin and all sorts of warfare, humane or inhumane becomes justified once you commit a heinous crime like that.

 

[jabalultariq]

Pakistan lacks OIL , pretty simple

 

[Birruna]

No Oil! Iran not so lucky!

 

[yyetttt]

LOL American is a false flagging Indian... Step inside Pakistan Indians we will show you what power we have and how Pakistan won all wars with India except 1971

 

[SHAMK9]

reminds me that we took out saddam and his country in few country..his country armed forces were much better then pakistan

what are you waiting for? send your country's (India) army (Indian Army), talking is easy, doing is not so easy

 

[RazPaK]

Pakistan is safe, and we all know why.

 

[ManuZ]

LOL American is a false flagging Indian... Step inside Pakistan Indians we will show you what power we have and how Pakistan won all wars with India except 1971

Seriously....u wanna troll on who won the wars...seriously....
If it makes u comfortable take 1971 also...U won all wars fair and square....

I think Pakistan is already occupied by US....
The government of Pakistan is not doing anything against the US drone strikes...
US goes around dronning Pakistan at will and the army or the government is of little help to ordinary pakistanis...
The government has to relay on foreign countries and banks to run its day to day business...
Economy is in a mess...Military is off morale...Sorry to say the corruption is of the highest order...
Need serious straight forward measures to put pakistan back on normal track...

On the topic....
Given the above mess in Pakistan why the heck would US come and occupy Pakistan...

 

[Wright]

There is a difference in being invaded and occupied. The US can probably roll in, but it cannot stay.

You need to patrol, interact with the people, try to set up a functioning government? Every interaction with the occupiers will result in the local population just trying to kill the occupier. This is not Iraq where US soldiers will go around handing water bottles and they would be cheered. They'll shoot the soldier and take his water too even for being a nice guy.

Occupation of Pakistan is the ultimate sin and all sorts of warfare, humane or inhumane becomes justified once you commit a heinous crime like that.

I doubt that. Iraq has always been more historic than pakistan. Arabs have been better at warfare then sindhi's, punjabi's, etcc.

The objective of a military is primarily to destroy the infastructure, eliminate the military capability, and netralize any production facilities.

USA can do the above quite well. Im pretty sure it could "occupy" as well, as long as it remains brutal like the Japanese Occupiers of China in WW2.

But there would be no benefit. The best thing US could do if it wanted to eliminate Pakistan is to support insurgency movements, and arm militias.

Or even better. Quit being an ally with Pakistan, and be Indias ally.

Just some examples pointing out that Pakistan is not invincible.

 

[Awesome]

I doubt that. Iraq has always been more historic than pakistan. Arabs have been better at warfare then sindhi's, punjabi's, etcc.

Historic warfare and present day guerrilla warfare is different. The problem with these occupied nations is that they are ready to surrender themselves. For example the present day Iraq and Afghan governments committed acts of treason when they colluded with occupying forces and helped them gain control of their own country. In Pakistan it won't be like that. There will be zero acceptance of allowing America in.

There can be no warfare as long no one goes to war.

In Iraq and Afghanistan only a fringe lunatic group is fighting the occupiers. In Pakistan a Phd graduate who gets a chance to kill the occupation force will take it. The sense of opposing occupation is very high in Pakistan

The objective of a military is primarily to destroy the infastructure, eliminate the military capability, and netralize any production facilities.

I never disputed the US can't do all this, I was talking purely in terms of occupation.

 

[vsdoc]

For example the present day Iraq and Afghan governments committed acts of treason when they colluded with occupying forces and helped them gain control of their own country.

Historically, has your leadership been that different?

The only difference is that you do not have American tanks rolling down your roads.

Were the US to put boots on your soil, you could do precious little to prevent it.

And the boots would be on your soil for just one reason. And that would not require them to be there long enough for your PhDs to use as target practice ....

 

[regular]

reminds me that we took out saddam and his country in few country..his country armed forces were much better then pakistan

Yes! Saddam was more powerful than Pakistan.....and we already know US don't even need to send its forces to take control of our country cuz its already under their total control, just feed our rulers and Awaam some $$$ and they start begging ure mercy.Except for some good pplz cuz they won't fall for ure $$$....

 

[Awesome]

Historically, has your leadership been that different?

Which is why the smartest play for any occupier is to use pseudo imperialism rather than occupy Pakistan. You need manpower from the locals, you need local police forces, where will all of them come from? Do you see masses lining up to support a police force for the occupation forces here? It is inconceivable.

 

[vsdoc]

Which is why the smartest play for any occupier is to use pseudo imperialism rather than occupy Pakistan. You need manpower from the locals, you need local police forces, where will all of them come from? Do you see masses lining up to support a police force for the occupation forces here? It is inconceivable.

That is only ok till US interests do not intersect Pakistan's internal red lines.

The day they do, there will need to be something similar to the ISAF on Pakistani soil.

I say something "similar", because in all likelihood, Chinese and Russian special ops forces would be on the ground alongside their US counterparts as well.

It would be largely clean, surgical, and with very little military to civilian contact.

In effect, you would have passed the Rubicon ....

 

[53fd]

I have no doubt, after the OBL raid, that the US would have tried to occupy any other nation if it weren't Pakistan. The maligning of the Armed Forces/ISI through public media outlets & unknown sources shows that the US wants to weaken the Security Establishment of Pakistan, & doesn't present much resistance to external threats. The Salala checkpost attack shows that the Pentagon has been inching towards longing for a full-on frontal war with Pakistan, but has failed to provoke Pakistan into it.

 

[Awesome]

That is only ok till US interests do not intersect Pakistan's internal red lines.

The day they do, there will need to be something similar to the ISAF on Pakistani soil.

I say something similar, because in all likelihood, China and Russian special ops forces would be on the ground alongsid their US counterparts as well.

In effect, you would have passed the Rubicon ....

Russian and Chinese are not stupid to go into the business of occupation and that too start with Pakistan type country.

As I said occupiers will be shot at by probably kids. In Karachi there are some areas where little kids have TTs and they shoot people just because they looked at them funny. There will be no mercy for occupiers and no moral dillemma for Pakistanis to brutally kill occupation forces just for being there. See them, shoot them. Imagine a soldier patrol unit passing down the street and you don't know from which window someone would just shoot you down.