What Does the United States Get from its Relationship with Israel?

[A1Kaid]

"An ally in the Middle East" Truth is US congress and politicians cave into the Israeli lobbyist. The Evangelicals who are brainwashed Christians provide unconditional support for Israel for their own biblical and theological reasons they believe Israel's existence is the key to the second coming of Christ. These deluded people combined with the lobbyist lead to US-Israeli partnership. In actuality Israel is nothing but a parasitic state on the US.

 

[Solomon2]

Ahhh well no one's perfect !

You're a Pakistani and your government says you have no right to exercise your moral judgment in Israel-related matters. Most other people in the world aren't so limited.

 

[duhastmish]

It's mostly about Jewish funding and vote bank.
It's large in us. And also media which is almost owned by jews

 

[Armstrong]

You're a Pakistani and your government says you have no right to exercise your moral judgment in Israel-related matters. Most other people in the world aren't so limited.

Okay !

 

[Solomon2]

Okay !

I'm sorry, but if you want to change that you have to assert to your fellows that Pakistanis have the right to make their own moral decisions and shouldn't kow-tow to Iranians and Arabs out of blind and subservient loyalty.

 

[Norwegian]

Troll Jihadi alert! Beware!

 

[Armstrong]

I'm sorry, but if you want to change that you have to assert to your fellows that Pakistanis have the right to make their own moral decisions and shouldn't kow-tow to Iranians and Arabs out of blind and subservient loyalty.

Dude talking to you about Israel is akin to talking to Gobbels about the ills of the Third Reich; you're that fair and unbaised in your assessment.

So please spare me the self-righteous sermons.

 

[Steve781]

The world has become more pro Israel in the last few decades because Arab countries have far less leverage over the global economy than they used to as the production of energy has increased in other parts of the world. It's difficult to imagine another action like that in 1973.

 

[Aepsilons]

The world has become more pro Israel in the last few decades because Arab countries have far less leverage over the global economy than they used to as the production of energy has increased in other parts of the world. It's difficult to imagine another action like that in 1973.

I believe it is the other way around. The world is more active in the condemnation of Israeli policies, and this has been seen in Israeli national news media. In particular there has been a rise in European opposition to Israel, and the United States has been vocal on some of Israel's defense operations.

 

[Steve781]

I believe it is the other way around. The world is more active in the condemnation of Israeli policies, and this has been seen in Israeli national news media. In particular there has been a rise in European opposition to Israel, and the United States has been vocal on some of Israel's defense operations.

I can't speak for all of Europe but Britain is much more pro Israel and less pro Arab than we used to be. Thatcher for example put an arms embargo on Israel after the 1982 invasion of Lebanon. We embargoed them during the Yom Kippur War as well. It's very unlikely we would do that today.

 

[Armstrong]

@Nihonjin1051 - No reply !

 

[Aepsilons]

@Nihonjin1051 - Now you're not talking to me....are you ?

I promise I'll accept a Mrs.Nihonjin even if shes from Israel !

Just start talking to me again Brother !

Of course not Bhai @Armstrong , why would I be angry at you?

Come let's drink tea together with @al-Hasani as we listen to some music.

 

[Armstrong]

Of course not Bhai @Armstrong , why would I be angry at you?

Come let's drink tea together with @al-Hasani as we listen to some music.

Good !

@al-Hasani !

Don't bring that Arab into this; I still haven't forgiven him for inviting me to his place for vacations and feeding me dates every day three times a day for 2 weeks till I was almost diabetic !

On Topic: Nihonjin my Brother, you have to understand that Pakistanis in particular and Muslims in general are pretty emotional people especially when it comes to their fellow Muslims. We just don't appreciate the fact that Israel talks about curbing terrorism on one hand by flattening half a block in Gaza killing heaven's knows how many people while on the other when someone points that out to them they're suddenlydeclared Anti-Semetic and every thing from the Holocaust to Hitler and what not is brought in to rationalize the Israeli actions.

Yes Israel has a right to exist but so do the Palestinians and more so than the Israeli because the Palestinians didn't come from a thousand miles away with a rifle in one hand and a bible in the other clamoring about the land they encroached on being their Promised Land 'cause their Daddies and Granddaddies from a 1000 years ago lived here.

 

[500]

Aid to Israel is all military and consist less than 0.5% of US military budget. Basically Israel is testbed and advertisement for US weapons.

In addition Israel provided extremely useful combat experience, intelligence and new method of warfare:

Israel provided US with captured Soviet jets radars and aid defence missile systems which saved hundreds of pilots in Vietnam.

Israeli tank battle experience was extremely useful in developing new tanks, captured smoothbore T-62 and rounds helped to develop smoothbore rounds.

Israel has very rich anti terrorist experience and vehicle armor for COIN operations, this armor was extensively used by US and allies in Iraq.

Israeli experience helps in improvements and modifications of weapon systems. For example french Mirage 5 which was sold to dozen countries is based on Israeli experience, Israel developed conformal tanks for F-16 and helmet targeting systems for many US jets which are also successfully sold.

Israel developed modern UAV tactics and SEAD, which again were extremely helpful in 1991 and later wars till today.

 

[Falcon29]

Aid to Israel is all military and consist less than 0.5% of US military budget. Basically Israel is testbed and advertisement for US weapons.

In addition Israel provided extremely useful combat experience, intelligence and new method of warfare:

Israel provided US with captured Soviet jets radars and aid defence missile systems which saved hundreds of pilots in Vietnam.

Israeli tank battle experience was extremely useful in developing new tanks, captured smoothbore T-62 and rounds helped to develop smoothbore rounds.

Israel has very rich anti terrorist experience and vehicle armor for COIN operations, this armor was extensively used by US and allies in Iraq.

Israeli experience helps in improvements and modifications of weapon systems. For example french Mirage 5 which was sold to dozen countries is based on Israeli experience, Israel developed conformal tanks for F-16 and helmet targeting systems for many US jets which are also successfully sold.

Israel developed modern UAV tactics and SEAD, which again were extremely helpful in 1991 and later wars till today.

Same exact thing in OP.