What about jf-17 for bangladesh airforce?

[Areesh]

Well, if I had to choose between an SU-30MKK and a JF-17, I'd certainy go for the former.

Keeping the defense budget of BAF in mind it would be better that you should go for F-35.

 

[Avisheik]

Keeping the defense budget of BAF in mind it would be better that you should go for F-35.

Well we didnt spend on airforce much over the years. So it will be wise to get some advanced fighters since we had enough time to save up. Furthermore we should go for an advanced fighter jets and su 30 really fits our wants

 

[Major Shaheb]

1.I doubt we are going to buy Western fighters. C130s were all we needed and got. Perhaps we will get some more of these. Also no more Mig 29s. J-10 yes."

Bangladesh air force specifically asked for SU-30 to the prime minister. So, I believe, it will be Su-30 that BAF will get. JAS-39 grippen is very expensive aircraft and F-16 is Alaler Ghorer Dulal, I dont think BAF will go for that. Look at AL govt. procurement pattern, you will see why they will not buy the migs.

Regarding Jet trainers, when BAF is considering Fighters like Mig-29CMT/SU-30/F-16/JAS-39, The trainers for these wont be anything better than L-159 Alca.

 

[Major Shaheb]

BAF will not go for Mig-29 as there are already so many controversies regarding the 8 mig procurement in 1999. You can understand my point of view if you look at the Navy procurement pattern. Due to the controversies regarding the Ulsan Mod. class frigate procurement, govt. has moved from Daewoo, and are on the verge of ordering two Jianwei ii class frigate from china. The local media said a lot about the mig and the ulsan class frigate procurement.

F-16 is not a good platform for close combat as well as it is a single engine platform. Besides, the US aircraft are like i-phone, anything (dart, dust, stone) can be fatal for the aircraft thus needs more cleaner airports to operate. I have heard from a western aeronautic expert that "The US made fighter aircrafts are like stylish rolex watch that looks cool. But, even a tiny stone can be fatal for the aircraft. As such, US airports are kept extremely clean (which is expensive) and Russian fighters are like flying tank. Nothing such stone or dust or paper bag can harm the aircraft and as such the aircraft can perform from some of the less maintained airports in the world".

 

[wild_fire1979]

1. I believe you ought to get some education yourself. When India and China fought in 1962, the world did not tremble; Indians did s--t in their pants. Going to happen again, we hope. We in BD always pray that China teaches you some humility.

2. BD is neither a huge mass with the poorest people on earth, nor is she a "Super Poor" like India. We have a thriving economy with good human index - unlike India. We are not interested in posing ourselves as "consequential", "super duper power", viceroy of Asia, captain of the Indian Ocean, etc! We are happy as we are except that we shall strive to regain the Kingdom of Nawab Sirajuddaula that was taken away from us by the British and presented to the Brahmonic oligarchy of Delhi.

Here we go again...

This is not 1962. In 1962 China did not have a world clout and neither did India. Both were just pseudo client states. Fast forward 2011, China and India dominate the world markets in terms of growth potential. Both are an important part of the world economy.
BD can keep having orgasms about what China will or won't do, the reality is, for both countries too much is at stake to go to war.

This century belongs to India and China.

Oh and don't patronize yourself. You ARE an inconsequential country and will remain to do so unless something drastic happens. Your economy is based on export and that can be hindered and/or destroyed if India wanted to by simply putting its foot down in WTO. And yeah, keep having wet dreams of taking back Sirajuddaula's supposed kingdom. For more ideas and where that leads to look at India's western border I am sure that should have your grey skills all stirred up

 

[bdslph]

i think we will have to stop think abt JF17 /FC1 and J10 for a while as the air force chief didn't mention it

but i do miss both ac

 

[Avisheik]

BAF will not go for Mig-29 as there are already so many controversies regarding the 8 mig procurement in 1999. You can understand my point of view if you look at the Navy procurement pattern. Due to the controversies regarding the Ulsan Mod. class frigate procurement, govt. has moved from Daewoo, and are on the verge of ordering two Jianwei ii class frigate from china. The local media said a lot about the mig and the ulsan class frigate procurement.

F-16 is not a good platform for close combat as well as it is a single engine platform. Besides, the US aircraft are like i-phone, anything (dart, dust, stone) can be fatal for the aircraft thus needs more cleaner airports to operate. I have heard from a western aeronautic expert that "The US made fighter aircrafts are like stylish rolex watch that looks cool. But, even a tiny stone can be fatal for the aircraft. As such, US airports are kept extremely clean (which is expensive) and Russian fighters are like flying tank. Nothing such stone or dust or paper bag can harm the aircraft and as such the aircraft can perform from some of the less maintained airports in the world".

But russian planes are very expensive to maintain

 

[Major Shaheb]

I think, both FC1/JF17 and J-10 are inferior to F-16.
JF17/FC1 are compared with second hand Block 15 F-16 by critics and J-10B are compared with F-16 block 30/32 and 40/42. So, J-10 still has two more blocks to beat to be a equivalent aircraft and have to go beyond that to be superior.

However, the F-16 Block 60/62 is equivalent/inferior to Mig-29CMT and inferior to the other 3 aircraft being evaluated by the air chief. Means, we r in the right track. Just, pray we get the best of the four, not just the cheapest one.

Regarding the quantity:
Although, Jane's reported of 32 aircraft, but I think the total number will exceed 48. You may ask how I am coming to this figure! If you remember properly, The prime minister revealed that she would add a regiment of air superiority or multi-role aircraft. As far as my knowledge goes, 1 regiment = minimum 3 squadrons. Well, normally the BAF squadron are made with 16 aircraft. So, 16 x 3 = 48 aircraft. Even then, they still need a strike squadron means 16 more aircraft.

That's how I am saying its going to be more than 32 and it may even be more than 48.

Thanks

 

[mjnaushad]

I think, both FC1/JF17 and J-10 are inferior to F-16.
JF17/FC1 are compared with second hand Block 15 F-16 by critics and J-10B are compared with F-16 block 30/32 and 40/42. So, J-10 still has two more blocks to beat to be a equivalent aircraft and have to go beyond that to be superior.

However, the F-16 Block 60/62 is equivalent/inferior to Mig-29CMT and inferior to the other 3 aircraft being evaluated by the air chief. Means, we r in the right track. Just, pray we get the best of the four, not just the cheapest one.

Regarding the quantity:
Although, Jane's reported of 32 aircraft, but I think the total number will exceed 48. You may ask how I am coming to this figure! If you remember properly, The prime minister revealed that she would add a regiment of air superiority or multi-role aircraft. As far as my knowledge goes, 1 regiment = minimum 3 squadrons. Well, normally the BAF squadron are made with 16 aircraft. So, 16 x 3 = 48 aircraft. Even then, they still need a strike squadron means 16 more aircraft.

That's how I am saying its going to be more than 32 and it may even be more than 48.

Thanks

In a dog fight.... Because F16 earlier blocks were better dog fighter..... The later blocks because of the new technological warfare didn't emphasis that much on dog fight. Some pilots or AF geeks can put more info on this.

 

[Major Shaheb]

I think, both FC1/JF17 and J-10 are inferior to F-16.
JF17/FC1 are compared with second hand Block 15 F-16 by critics and J-10B are compared with F-16 block 30/32 and 40/42. So, J-10 still has two more blocks to beat to be a equivalent aircraft and have to go beyond that to be superior.

However, the F-16 Block 60/62 is equivalent/inferior to Mig-29CMT and inferior to the other 3 aircraft being evaluated by the air chief. Means, we r in the right track. Just, pray we get the best of the four, not just the cheapest one.

Regarding the quantity:
Although, Jane's reported of 32 aircraft, but I think the total number will exceed 48. You may ask how I am coming to this figure! If you remember properly, The prime minister revealed that she would add a regiment of air superiority or multi-role aircraft. As far as my knowledge goes, 1 regiment = minimum 3 squadrons. Well, normally the BAF squadron are made with 16 aircraft. So, 16 x 3 = 48 aircraft. Even then, they still need a strike squadron means 16 more aircraft.

That's how I am saying its going to be more than 32 and it may even be more than 48.

Thanks

I think, both FC1/JF17 and J-10 are inferior to F-16.
JF17/FC1 are compared with second hand Block 15 F-16 by critics and J-10B are compared with F-16 block 30/32 and 40/42. So, J-10 still has two more blocks to beat to be a equivalent aircraft and have to go beyond that to be superior.

However, the F-16 Block 60/62 is equivalent/inferior to Mig-29CMT and inferior to the other 2 aircraft being evaluated by the air chief. Means, we r in the right track. Just, pray we get the best of the four, not just the cheapest one.

Regarding the quantity:
Although, Jane's reported of 32 aircraft, but I think the total number will exceed 48. You may ask how I am coming to this figure! If you remember properly, The prime minister revealed that she would add a regiment of air superiority or multi-role aircraft. As far as my knowledge goes, 1 regiment = minimum 3 squadrons. Well, normally the BAF squadron are made with 16 aircraft. So, 16 x 3 = 48 aircraft. Even then, they still need a strike squadron means 16 more aircraft.

That's how I am saying its going to be more than 32 and it may even be more than 48.

Thanks

 

[genmirajborgza786]

i think Bangladesh should go for them jf17/fc1 is a good fighter its a better & modern 4th gen aircraft replacement for the aging fleets of f-7's & a-5's plus its affordable got good maneuvers BVR etc

 

[MZUBAIR]

I think, both FC1/JF17 and J-10 are inferior to F-16.

Yes JF17[All wather, Night Missions, BVR engagements, HUD, DECOY, FLIRS, HOTAS, GPS, KLJ7] inferior to Block 52 but equilvant capable to F16 Blk 40 [BVR, Long Range Radars, HUD, GPS, APG-68V, DECOY, FLIRS, optics heads-up display, electronic countermeasures, Bombing Moving Ground Targets].

F16BLK15 [Cannot perform in all weather, night missions and BVR] is inferrior to JF17


For more details pleach chk F16 official website.
F16 Version details

Dont underestimate JF17, We are not overestimating it.

JF17/FC1 are compared with second hand Block 15 F-16 by critics and J-10B are compared with F-16 block 30/32 and 40/42. So, J-10 still has two more blocks to beat to be a equivalent aircraft and have to go beyond that to be superior.

Please update your knowledge

However, the F-16 Block 60/62 is equivalent/inferior to Mig-29CMT and inferior to the other 3 aircraft being evaluated by the air chief. Means, we r in the right track. Just, pray we get the best of the four, not just the cheapest one.

Please mention other 3 aircrafts

Regarding the quantity:
Although, Jane's reported of 32 aircraft, but I think the total number will exceed 48. You may ask how I am coming to this figure! If you remember properly, The prime minister revealed that she would add a regiment of air superiority or multi-role aircraft. As far as my knowledge goes, 1 regiment = minimum 3 squadrons. Well, normally the BAF squadron are made with 16 aircraft. So, 16 x 3 = 48 aircraft. Even then, they still need a strike squadron means 16 more aircraft.

That's how I am saying its going to be more than 32 and it may even be more than 48.

Thanks

Best of Luck !!!.

 

[punisher]

Our strategic weapons are more important than business deal. why do you think we do not have large business with india though there is good potential?

bangladesh does whatever india wants it to do. like you see transit, handing over militants, river water. can you guarantee me , they will not open the JF-17 to indians? if we sell it will be a great mistake. JF-17 is the backbone of PAF.

You made my day. joke of the year award goes to your post.

 

[Major Shaheb]

In a dog fight.... Because

Thanks for agreeing partially at-least.

In a dog fight.... Because F16 earlier blocks were better dog fighter..... The later blocks

However, for your kind information, F-16 block 30 and onward are the best dog fighting f-16 ever. I don't think you know that from Block 30 onward F-16 received a new better engine the General Electric F110-GE-100 with much better thrust to weight ratio. The letter variants were also improved little on the engine and body part but heavily on avionics and weapons part. The later variants are thus more maneuverable until they equip the aircraft with conformal fuel tanks for extra range. Conformal fuel tanks decrease agility of any aircraft. Your JF-17 will behave (Agility) like your F-7PG when you equip it with conformal fuel tanks.

In a dog fight.... Because F16 earlier blocks were better dog fighter..... The later blocks because of the new technological warfare didn't emphasis that much on dog fight.

It is not true. They upgraded the latter (variants with the new engine which are Block 30 & onward) variants with much better avionics while keeping the agility same. So, that is also improvement. Its like you have a Nokia C3 with Nokia E7 facility and features.

And the critics compared JF-17 with second hand F-16 block 15.

 

[golmaal]

Our strategic weapons are more important than business deal. why do you think we do not have large business with india though there is good potential?

bangladesh does whatever india wants it to do. like you see transit, handing over militants, river water. can you guarantee me , they will not open the JF-17 to indians? if we sell it will be a great mistake. JF-17 is the backbone of PAF.

Man what you are smoking.... what you are saying like India would buy a JF17 from BD and give this secret tech to US & Russia??
also you are stating to export JF17 to India?... that's made my day..LOL

Don't you think this is an overestimation for JF17...