Want to leave West

[Zibago]

I have not visited Pakistan recently but my relatives are doing fine there thank you very much.

So you dont live here and dont experience hardships we grew up with

 

[PakSword]

Hun aram a? .

Buhat ziada aaram aagaya.. lolll

 

[SuvarnaTeja]

LOL! Have you heard the history of Black christians in America.
Converting won't do jack. It's brown hairy skin that triggers some anglo americans. Not religion but a different skin tone. Native Americans know it,Mexicans who are christians know it,Some of your people know it but won't admit it and ofcourse African Americans know it.

I myself has said that. But converting to Christianity would be one less thing to worry.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Use them to restore Pakistan? You mean people who are already confused and left Pakistan for their own personal gains would help restore Pakistan? What exactly this restoring Pakistan mission is?

None of you desi gora lot would be able to spend a day in streets of Pakistan on your own ........ and you would restore Pakistan ......... keep your confusion to yourselves and just worry about your own futures ....... the reason you left Pakistan.

Have you ever been outside Pakistan?

Does your family feel the same or is it just you?
If it's whole family thingy then surely you guys need to relocate.
If it's just you, which i think it is, you need to diagnose the root cause of your problem.

It’s a feeling which encompasses America Muslims as a whole.

Vigilante attacks on masjids have increased. Almost every masjid has reported vandalism or attempted massacre since 2007.

 

[UkroTurk]

As a Turkish Citizen I wouldnt welcome you to Turkey, if you came with religious fundamentalism. Also in order to immigrate to Turkey you must fulfit some requirements.

There is nothing wrong with severe migration policies due to every culture has right to survive. İf you socially and culturally be adopted you are welcome.
As above mentioned you have a country Pakistan where you can immensely feel free.
Why don't you love your country?
I am asking a migrant living in another country?

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Nah man I have seen my brothers in same problems. They just dont wanna talk about it and ignore it.

Does your family feel the same or is it just you?
If it's whole family thingy then surely you guys need to relocate.
If it's just you, which i think it is, you need to diagnose the root cause of your problem.

I only wish I had the same experience as you when it comes to my religion not being challenged. Only last week I had a shot at a 6 figure salary gig. I was hounded off of that oppurtunity bcz the white mexican "trainer" did not like me from the beginning. I'm not a very talkative guy and I barely spoke to him. And my performance was on par with the other rookie guys. He disliked me and had an aggressive behavior towards me from the beginning and also an African Immigrant. We both had a strong accent. I had a beard and long hair kinda looked like Taliban on my drivers license(I was trying to be a hippie hehe). There was another white arab muslim. He was very well regarded and praised by him.

He was okay with other black folks, with the white looking muslim. But not with me and the other black guy cuz we have accents and me cuz Im muslim.

And my original post is not how you make it out to be. It is mostly about the prevelant white supremacy and the general concept that white is right. And also about intra/internal racism in muslim communities.

Hi,

I had read your post partially---.

I think it is BS---. There is discrimination against every other ethnic group in some areas one way or the other---..

There is more discrimination in pakistan than in the US---.

Who made you the judge of being a proper muslim---only Allah knows who is a proper muslim and who is a fraudster-.

In your intro---you show your age to be 21---so what do you have to offer to the society at this age---what level of education that you have that you gain importance as a citizen---.

No american---white black yellow or brown has challenged me about my religion---they only want to know what do I bring to the table---for that reason---at age 61 + and after being out of job for 3 years due to an injury I got hired by a white guy in his late 30's for a job that is paying me low six figures a year---where the senior most associate in my category is making in the high 6 figures a year---.

So---don't give us a sob story and BS about america---this is still the land of opportunity---. But you have to have something to take your share---.

@Indus Pakistan posted a video of a pakistani origin mayor in the city of Paris Texas---a surgeon who became a mayor of a small texas town---.

If you feel sorry for your self---or feel that you are holier than others---and your religion and belief is superior to others---and you are the only muslim who is practising his faith like a muslim should---then it seems like the problem is not with the US the problem would be reflecting back at you when you look into the mirror---.

 

[VCheng]

I would like to escape the West.

Last time I checked, there were no exit controls to prevent your escape.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Use them to restore Pakistan? You mean people who are already confused and left Pakistan for their own personal gains would help restore Pakistan? What exactly this restoring Pakistan mission is?

None of you desi gora lot would be able to spend a day in streets of Pakistan on your own ........ and you would restore Pakistan ......... keep your confusion to yourselves and just worry about your own futures ....... the reason you left Pakistan.

Not all of us are asylum seekers who maligned Pakistan to get foreign passport. Some of us left in hopeless in absence of oppurtunities matching our skillset. Some faced real difficulties and in some cases life threat so we moved our businesses abroad.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

And also about intra/internal racism in muslim communities.

We don’t talk about this enough. Sell-outs and Muslim Brotherhood/Arab Nationalist types who support US militarism and hate immigrants vs Asian/African/Turk/Persian Muslims who tend to support Blacks, Latin people and support Muslim countries victimized by the West.

There is a big schism with Muslims in the West of New-age heterodox Muslims vs Traditional Muslims.

 

[MastanKhan]

Nah man I have seen my brothers in same problems. They just dont wanna talk about it and ignore it.


I only wish I had the same experience as you when it comes to my religion not being challenged. Only last week I had a shot at a 6 figure salary gig. I was hounded off of that oppurtunity bcz the white mexican "trainer" did not like me from the beginning. I'm not a very talkative guy and I barely spoke to him. And my performance was on par with the other rookie guys. He disliked me and had an aggressive behavior towards me from the beginning and also an African Immigrant. We both had a strong accent. I had a beard and long hair kinda looked like Taliban on my drivers license(I was trying to be a hippie hehe). There was another white arab muslim. He was very well regarded and praised by him.

He was okay with other black folks, with the white looking muslim. But not with me and the other black guy cuz we have accents and me cuz Im muslim.

And my original post is not how you make it out to be. It is mostly about the prevelant white supremacy and the general concept that white is right. And also about intra/internal racism in muslim communities.

Hi,

So---the problem is not with the interviewer---the problem is with you---.

You have decided that beard is Islam---. Well to bring it to you---beard is not Islam.

You want a corporate job---then get a corporate hair cut---. You want to move to Turkey---yet many a turks are clean shaven or have moustache---.

I think that there are some personal issues that you need to overcome---Islam is just a cover that you are trying to hide behind---.

And in your introduction---your age is 21---. Then you claim to be heading towards becoming a pilot---. So what would qualify you to have a job offer of 6 figure---?

 

[American Pakistani]

No place on earth is safe from discrimination. I live in US but never faced any discriminating.

Hi,

Now with all that discrimination in the US---just compare yourself to being a christian in pakistan---hell hath no fury like a pakistani muslim spurned.

Move to california---. You will fit in nicely---.

True.

No offense to anyone but unfortunately, recent incidents shows non Muslims in Pakistan must be facing Hell.

 

[HAIDER]

Hi,

Now with all that discrimination in the US---just compare yourself to being a christian in pakistan---hell hath no fury like a pakistani muslim spurned.

Move to california---. You will fit in nicely---.

I don't see any issue in US yet. May be issue in hill billy hood or boyz in hood area. Rest of US safe n sound. Plus, i see lot of muslim with there get up issue. In public places look like desi maulana sahib with long beard, big belly, typical tablighi shalwar kameez..... yes its kinda problem and ladies with ninja naqab.
Look modern and well dressed with Islamic value. People should know you are muslim and good muslim. Religious appearance doesn't count ...its the character.

 

[Ahmet Pasha]

Hi
Yeah I'm 21....so everything is my fault uncle g. Your suave is too overwhelming. You are seeing everything from your perspective and I dont blame you for it.

Hi,

So---the problem is not with the interviewer---the problem is with you---.

You have decided that beard is Islam---. Well to bring it to you---beard is not Islam.

You want a corporate job---then get a corporate hair cut---. You want to move to Turkey---yet many a turks are clean shaven or have moustache---.

I think that there are some personal issues that you need to overcome---Islam is just a cover that you are trying to hide behind---.

And in your introduction---your age is 21---. Then you claim to be heading towards becoming a pilot---. So what would qualify you to have a job offer of 6 figure---?

 

[Norwegian]

Go back to Erdogans Islamized Turkey

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Hi,

So---the problem is not with the interviewer---the problem is with you---.

You have decided that beard is Islam---. Well to bring it to you---beard is not Islam.

You want a corporate job---then get a corporate hair cut---. You want to move to Turkey---yet many a turks are clean shaven or have moustache---.

I think that there are some personal issues that you need to overcome---Islam is just a cover that you are trying to hide behind---.

And in your introduction---your age is 21---. Then you claim to be heading towards becoming a pilot---. So what would qualify you to have a job offer of 6 figure---?

It’s his experience, who is anyone to discount it?

No place on earth is safe from discrimination. I live in US but never faced any discriminating.



True.

No offense to anyone but unfortunately, recent incidents shows non Muslims in Pakistan must be facing Hell.

There are so many factors. US is a large country filled with many different types of people.

I don't see any issue in US yet. May be issue in hill billy hood or boyz in hood area. Rest of US safe n sound. Plus, i see lot of muslim with there get up issue. In public places look like desi maulana sahib with long beard, big belly, typical tablighi shalwar kameez..... yes its kinda problem and ladies with ninja naqab.
Look modern and well dressed with Islamic value. People should know you are muslim and good muslim. Religious appearance doesn't count ...its the character.

It only makes it more likely to have hate crimes, discrimination, or racial abuse to have a beard or hijab/niqab.

Even if you clean shave and look Western, eventually you may suffer the same things.