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Muhammed Bin Abdul Wahab was a person who originated from Najaf and he was kicked out of his village because of extreme views, even his father had problems. It was not until he met Saud did things change for him.
 
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Take you court? Courts are criminals, Are you asserting that you are a criminal? - But you are a Wahabi and there is a cure for that, and we will come to that in time

Leave me you asserted that wahhabis are terrorist. Then sue to terrorist why let them take time.
 
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First people should refrain from using the word Wahabi because its one of the 99 names attributed to God. We should call them Salafi

Oh no! Yet another name for Wahabis - Why are Wahabis so ashamed of themselves that they are constantly trying to hide behind all sort of new names, Ahle Bigotry and terrorism, surely not?

Whatever name they want to call themselves, the reality is that their ideology, the ideology created by the founder and prophet of their religion, this Wahab fellow, who apparently was charlatan, and saw fit to "reform" Islam - is the source of the shame the Wahabi feel.

It's interesting to note that no Wahabi has come forward to say that Shi'ah and Sunni are Muslims and brothers, and no wahabi has come forward to offer examples from their clergy asserting the same -- I wonder if this is instructive to those who think they and their experience is the measure of the world.
 
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I saw on this forum most of the members blame to wahhabism but I feel nobody knows what wahhabism is? Everyone thinks that this is a new sect, formed in Islam. Everyone likes to condemn to wahhabism without knowing facts. People think that terrorist who are doing their activities in Pakistan are followers of wahhabism. Despite of fact believes on rumors. I personally thinks that each sect doesn’t teach to terrorize people although I know very well that these terrorist themselves show their belongings with a particular sect rather wahhabism but it is unnecessary to name here of any sect. Now, I like to keep actual fact in front of you. So that loop could be closed and infact no wahhabism is actually existed in the world. The propaganda has been spread by enemies of Muslims.

Intellectuals in the West, and especially the United States, are frantically looking for the intellectual root cause or causes of what they call terrorism, especially in the Muslim world. Some of them now think that they have stumbled on that root cause; it is something called wahhabism. It is almost certain that the overwhelming majority of Westerners, even those who are concerned with the problem of terrorism, have never even heard of the word ‘wahhabism. It is for the sake of such folks that this brief account is written. It attempts to give such readers a true picture of the teachings referred to as wahhabism so that they may see for themselves whether it has any special connection with what is now called terrorism.

But since terrorism is a vague term on whose meaning there is not even a shred of agreement, let us, for the sake of argument, define it in a way that is acceptable to those who are looking for its root cause in the Muslim world. Terrorism, then, is any act of unjustified violence. A terrorist would then be any individual or country that commits such an act or, in the case of countries. Is wahhabism related in any way to this crime? The best way to give an informed answer to this question is to have a comprehensive view of wahhabism: the life of its founder, his teachings, his struggle against opponents, and his achievements.

Wahhabism

Wahhabism is the name given by the opponents, even enemies of Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abd Al-Wahhab to his teachings. Neither he nor those who agreed with him called his teachings by that name, for the simple reason that neither he nor they believed that he came with a new ideology or philosophy or established a heretical sect. The only thing that he believed he was doing was to teach people the fundamentals of their religion as they are stated in very clear terms in the Quran (the true word of Allah) and the Sunnah (the sayings and practices of Prophet Muhammad SAW). He did not even claim that he came with any new understanding or interpretation of those Divine words. In explaining them he followed in the footsteps of all the earlier famous scholars of Islam whom people know and trust, but of whose teachings many came to be ignorant.

The Active Reformer

Who was this man the danger of whose teachings the West has suddenly discovered three hundred years after his birth (in 1703)? He was born in the small village of Uyayna, in Najd, the eastern region of what is now Saudi Arabia. His biographers tell us that even as a child he was not only very religious but also very intelligent and eloquent. He memorized all of the Quran before he was ten. Even with the little knowledge that he had as a young man of twelve, he could see the great divergence between what he learnt and what was happening in his society. He did not like the passive attitude of the scholars of his village, and started advocating the true religion, which he came to know. Finding no good response in his village, he migrated to the Western part of Saudi Arabia, called Hijaz, to perform hajj and to acquire more knowledge. Having achieved what he had traveled for, he went back to his town to continue his studies under his father.

He felt that his thirst for knowledge was not quenched by what he had already acquired under his father and the learned men in Hijaz, and decided therefore to make a trip to Iraq to meet more learned people and benefit from them. He arrived in Basra in 1724 where he met a great learned man who had the same feeling towards the sorry state of Muslims, and who, like the Sheikh, believed that something had to be done. Thus, while in Basra, the Sheikh did not confine himself to studying, but took an active part in fighting the many deviant innovations which had become for many people part of the Islamic religion, like the veneration of saints and their tombs. He did win some supporters, but his enemies were greater. These included an extremist Shi'ah sect that was famous for those deviant practices, which he considered to be forms of worship that contradicted the basic Islamic doctrine that no one except the one true God should be worshipped. He was forced by these deviant groups, under threat of death, to leave Basra. After a very difficult journey he went back to join his father in his new town of Huraymila in Najd, in about 1727, to continue his program of studying, teaching and preaching for about fifteen years. News of the Sheikh and his activities started to spread, especially because of the many messages he was in the habit of sending to important personalities: learned people, rulers and anyone in a position of leadership. As a result, people started to flock to his town to express their approval and acceptance of his teachings, to know more about them, and to take part in the endeavor of spreading them. It was during this time that he wrote his most important and popular pamphlet, The Book of Tawheed (monotheism) That is Allah’s Right Against His Servants. But again the Sheikh was met with very strong opposition, and again he had, under threat of death, to leave the town and go back to his home-town, al Uyayna. He was welcomed and encouraged by the Prince of this town, a certain Uthman ibn Maamar, who accepted his teachings and became a strong supporter. To strengthen his bond with the Sheikh he gave him his paternal aunt in marriage. As a ruler, and in consultation with the Sheikh, he started to promulgate the Shari'ah; he adhered very strongly to the Islamic principles of justice, and began to remove all remnants of injustices, and fight and punish criminals. News of all this spread in Arabia, as a result of which many rulers began to see in him a potential danger to their power. One of these was the ruler of Ahsa, Sulayman al Muhammad who wrote to Maamar telling him to either kill Ibn Abd Al-Wahhab or send him out of his city. Maamar could not afford to refuse because he used to depend economically on this Sulayman. So he told the Sheikh that there was no way for him to disobey Sulayman, and asked him in a polite way to leave. Thus after four years in his home-town he chose to go to the town of Diriya. It was natural for the Prince of Diriya, Muhammad Ibn Saud to hesitate in welcoming such a dangerous person in his land. But his wife, Moodhi, who had accepted the Sheikh’s teachings, persuaded her husband not only to allow him to stay, but to show great respect for him by going and visiting him at the house where he was staying. He did so, and gave the Sheikh the good news that he was to be highly respected and defended in his new abode. The Sheikh thanked him and gave him a summary of what he was calling people to. The ruler accepted and gave him allegiance that he would defend the truth (monotheism) and work against polytheism, and that he would adhere to Allah’s religion by enforcing the Shari'ah, inviting to what is good and prohibiting what is evil, and cooperate in defending it by the sword against those who waged war against it. Thus the pact was completed between the strong leader of a great movement, and the strong ruler of an important city in the region of Najd in Arabia. And it was as a result of this noble alliance that, in 1746, the modern state of Saudi Arabia was born, and its distinguishing characteristics defined.

Followers of the Sheikh in different parts of Arabia started to migrate to Diriya, which soon became like the religious, political and military capital of the region. Having settled peacefully in his new home, the Sheikh started to devote himself to his main vocation: teaching and writing. He offered regular courses for the inhabitants of his new town on the fundamentals of the religion, biography of Prophet Muhammad (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam), and his method of conveying his message.

Having accomplished all this in Diriya, he felt that it was his duty now to make efforts to spread the message among Muslims in other towns and cities. To that effect, he began to send messages to princes, judges, and taught people inviting them to come back to true Tawheed, to worship none but the One True Creator, Allah, answering questions about what he stood for, and denying what was falsely and maliciously attributed to him.

Seeing that his enemies did not confine themselves to passive opposition but engaged in propaganda warfare and were actually preparing to attack him and his followers militarily, he had no choice but to call his followers to jihad. These wars continued long after the Sheikh’s death in 1792.

I tried to state that what is wahhabism and its connections with terrorism & short biography of Sheikh Muhammad ibn Abd Al-Wahhab. I hope visionary people must consider fairly on it.

I cannot speak for others, sir, however, I would like to make a point about this debate. Anyone who thinks that Wahbism as a philiosphy is innately terroristic is false. What the view is that the Saudi sponsored chapter has been used in Pakistan to terrorist plans. Terrorism itself has nothing to do with religion nor a sect. It is all political. If the terrorists were truly prime religious zelots that the media and popular discourse makes them then Dubai, Doha and such desert destination that house many 'unIslamic' activities would have been severely attacked. Saudi Arabia that has continued to support the USA would have been targetted. However, this is not the case and neither is the case of people blaming Wahabism for Terrorism; the picture is more complex.
 
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Oh no! Yet another name for Wahabis - Why are Wahabis so ashamed of themselves that they are constantly trying to hide behind all sort of new names, Ahle Bigotry and terrorism, surely not?

As Muslims we should not use the word Wahabi on others because its disrepectful to Allah. We should call them Salafi.
 
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As Muslims we should not use the word Wahabi on others because its disrepectful to Allah. We should call them Salafi.

This yet another example of the sacrilegious nature of the Wahabi, their very name is an insult to Muslims? Any wonder
then that the Wahabi scurry around trying to change their name, according to Green Bullet, the name of the prophet of the Wahabi is an insult

three opportunities have been offered to the Wahabi to assert that Shi'ah and Sunni are MUSLIMS AND BROTHERS YET NOT EVEN ONE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY
 
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@muse, you must be my twin brother, who was lost in Kumbh Mela of 83! :P

Very few people I agree with on this forum. You are one of them! :D
 
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This yet another example of the sacrilegious nature of the Wahabi, their very name is an insult to Muslims? Any wonder
then that the Wahabi scurry around trying to change their name, according to Green Bullet, the name of the prophet of the Wahabi is an insult

three opportunities have been offered to the Wahabi to assert that Shi'ah and Sunni are MUSLIMS AND BROTHERS YET NOT EVEN ONE TOOK THE OPPORTUNITY

No one can be a Shia or Sunni and Muslim at the same time.

Either you are Muslim or not!

Most of above.. do not promote hate, which is regular practice on this forum and every one see it.. who are extremists.

No one shall impose its personal version of history and current affairs on others... running propaganda based on your religious and political affiliations is un-Islamic.

Its clear that you are not here for discussion or learn... you have your mindset and your posts reflect nothing but blames, hate expressions, making fun, calling others jews and kafirs (in your version of translation).

I wanted to quote your posts but they are so many and non make sense or lets say all is your baseless propaganda... and IMO reality is exact opposite... where you are exact what you label others.

Once i got engaged with a member of this forum in similar discussion and next he posted me abusive words, against the family of prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and that was an eye opener for me.

Why not you open a thread about Shisim and explain how only they are Muslims and others not!

Are you not ASHAMED of being identified as Shia?

I'm non Shia Muslim and I'm not ashamed of telling this!
 
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No Wahabi came forward - Is this not instructive? Murderous, Sacrilegious, Barbarous, if these public perceptions of the Wahabi persist , it is not because of the attitudes of others, rather it is because of what the ideology of the Wahabi is all about - The Wahabi religion came about in the late 1700's and claims to have "reformed" Islam - indeed they have taken upon themselves to suggest that Islam not only needs "Reform" but also that their ideology is up to the challenge and indeed the many Jihad they have waged against Muslims is testimony to their depravity.

Irfan says, Ulema have declared that Shi'ah and Sunni are brothers and Muslims - Which Wahabi will have the courage to break the chain of their hateful ideology and assert that this is true and that the clergy of the Wahabi religion also assert the same?
 
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Calling All Wahabi - take the Shia and Sunni are Brothers and Muslims challenge -- prove to the world that you are not Murderous, that you are not sacrilegious, not Barbarous

All Wahabis, come forth and declare - if you -- Cold day in hell?
 
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@Irfan Baloch
War on terror must not be judged on the sectarian basis because terrorism word is applied for everyone who is involved in non state , unconstitutional militant activities .
Its correct that ingredient of sectarianism is also involved in it , In my opinion this whole sectarian culture have been started In 1979 when political party (Tehreek Nafaz fiqah jaferia) was created in the name of enforcement of law belongs to specific Fiqah , At the same time Iranian revolutionary authorities had played a major role in forming and supporting that organisation , Knowing the fact that Its leader, Allama Arif Hussain al-Hussaini was a student of the leader of Iran's Islamic Revolution, Ayatollah Khomeini.
That was the beginning of the sectarian politics in Pakistan .

Later In 1980 another political party of Deoband Sunni Sectarian group (Anjuman Sipah-e-Sahaba ) was created against to prevent major Shiite influence in Pakistan in the wake of the Iranian Revolution . This organisation, later re-named as the Sipah-e-Sahaba Pakistan (SSP) .

Later In 1990s Sunni Barelvi sectarian group had created a political Party Sunni Tehreek ,
Sunni Tehreek is a Muslim political organization described by Western institutions as representing ultraradical and anti-Christian, anti-Shi'ite beliefs.The organization was founded in Pakistan in 1990 to promote the interests of the Barelvi movement in conflicts against the competing Deobandi and Ahl al-Hadith movements.
Sunni Tehreek was formed in Karachi in 1992 under the leadership of Muhammad Saleem Qadri. Because of its aggressive stance on the refugee population in the city, it was met with opposition by the Muhajir-aligned Muttahida Qaumi Movement which delayed the spread of ST's influence for some time.

Later All of them get involved in militant activities against each other , That would have been better If we had started our WOT in 90's but then Operation against a political force of karachi only had left bad memories and bad reputation for our Armed forces and then they almost stayed away from that matter .

We really don't have a proper policey of de-militarizing of militant wing of all political parties , and never we try to implement same law for all at a time , All sectarian groups have now penetrated in different political parties and as well as in our society , People are using Sectarian groups in fight of Grabing Resources , Irfan Bhai , Our Armed forces is an institution for all . It would be better that instead of demonizing each OR all sectarian groups of Islam , try to Rehabitalize them . If they learnt to co-exist with each other and understand that AK-47 cannot resolve any issue then it would be better for our state , but their is no way of returning to the similar society in which we were living in before sectarian division even not with Military Operation . We don't have any other way left but to trust in Democracy and avoid more Bloodshed . If we survived then these similar sectarian competition will be the cause of our Rising . PEACE
 
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THE WAHABIS HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD ISLAM. THEIR VERSION OF ISLAM ESPECIALLY RELATING TO SHIRK AND BID'AH IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG. WAHABIS ARE A MINORITY GROUP OF MUSLIMS. BECAUSE, OUT OF 57 MUSLIM COUNTRIES, ONLY 1 COUNTRY I.E, SAUDI ARABIA IS CONTROLLED BY WAHABIS. MAY BE ANOTHER 1 OR 2 COUNTRIES, WHICH I AM NOT REMEMBERING NAMES. OUT OF TOTAL WORLD MUSLIM POPULATION OF 125 CRORES, THEY ARE NOT MORE THAN 8 TO 10 CRORES. CAN SOMEONE SAY ME, WHETHER PRESENT MONARCY SYSTEM IN SAUDI ARABIA, IS ISLAMIC ? ACCORDING TO WHICH , AFTER THE DEATH OF ONE SO-CALLED KING, HIS SON OR HIS BROTHER BECOMES NEXT KING. IS IT ISLAMIC ?
 
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Calling All Wahabi - take the Shia and Sunni are Brothers and Muslims challenge -- prove to the world that you are not Murderous, that you are not sacrilegious, not Barbarous

All Wahabis, come forth and declare - if you -- Cold day in hell?

someone makes fun of others a lot, this means that he has a lot of insecurities that he trying to hide by attacking others, and showing a fake sense of confidence, like the theory saying that every superiority complex is caused by an underlying inferiority complex.
 
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You will note that in the countries that Wahabi have set up their tyranny, thjey have done so by force of arms or with the assistance of Imperialist western governments --- this is an indication of the legitimacy problems the Wahabi face.

Unfortunately, calls to the Wahabi to be reasonable have fallen on deaf ears, as is clear t all forum members and readers, they will not even say that Shi'ah and Sunni are Muslims and brothers, because asserting such a thing is against their ideology, that's why they can't do this and still be Wahabi -
 
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Mate, he is suffering from no complex. He is challenging you with history/words/logic, not bombs and beheadings as your ilk would resort to. Instead of issuing a fatwa at whim, answer his questions.

someone makes fun of others a lot, this means that he has a lot of insecurities that he trying to hide by attacking others, and showing a fake sense of confidence, like the theory saying that every superiority complex is caused by an underlying inferiority complex.
 
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