Vikramditya & the IAC Vikrant Threat To Pakistan Waters

[GURU DUTT]

kamal ho gaya ye thread abhi tak chal raha hai

 

[PiyaraPakistan]

kamal ho gaya ye thread abhi tak chal raha hai

me bhi ye hi soch raha ho.

 

[Vinod2070]

I didn't know that it was 1965.

Pakistan since than has worked very hard to ensure that it maintains adequate supplies. Officially doctrine states that Pakistan maintains 45 days worth of supplies, and that is a very conservative number. Since than, PA and other fighting forces have developed a very elaborative concept of supply depots spread throughout the country. In conclusion, you need to do more research on Pakistan's Logistical Capability instead of blurting out unsubstantiated statements.

Not really, the balance of power is roughly the same. Pakistan is still immune from a military strike from India and can match India at Corps Level Deployment.

Well, there is a 6-7 times gap in defense spending at the very least.

It has to translate somewhere.

 

[Immanuel]

BD already has 3 frigates and 2 more have been ordered. Those two are due to arrive in BD by early next year.

3 submarines from China will cost 1 billion dollars. BD spent 4 billion dollars in the last 5 years on arms imports.

Deal has already been made for two Chinese subs for training purposes but they will not be the modern Song/Yuan types.

BD's 150 billion dollar economy is forecast to grow at nearly 7% a year to 2018 - you can do the math there.

Really

BD only exists because our dears Indira and Sam decided to send in troops to liberate that patch of semi submerged pile of increasing garbage. You now want to compare or confront India. ICG is vast and is one of the fastest growing part of the Indian military establishment.

IN won't even come to play if BD has to be taught a lesson. ICG is more than BD can handle.

 

[arp2041]

BD already has 3 frigates and 2 more have been ordered. Those two are due to arrive in BD by early next year.

3 submarines from China will cost 1 billion dollars. BD spent 4 billion dollars in the last 5 years on arms imports.

Deal has already been made for two Chinese subs for training purposes but they will not be the modern Song/Yuan types.

BD's 150 billion dollar economy is forecast to grow at nearly 7% a year to 2018 - you can do the math there.

But BD is predicted to be under Bay of Bangal by 2050

Potential impact of sea-level rise on Bangladesh | GRID-Arendal - Publications - Vital Climate Graphics

Warming Climate to Hit Bangladesh Hard with Sea Level Rise, More Floods and Cyclones, World Bank Report Says

YOU CAN DO THE GEOGRAPHY HERE.

 

[danger007]

But BD is predicted to be under Bay of Bangal by 2050

Potential impact of sea-level rise on Bangladesh | GRID-Arendal - Publications - Vital Climate Graphics

Warming Climate to Hit Bangladesh Hard with Sea Level Rise, More Floods and Cyclones, World Bank Report Says

YOU CAN DO THE GEOGRAPHY HERE.

lol... be aware... all BD nationals will surround India to Contain us through Bay of bengal and Indian ocean....

 

[UKBengali]

But BD is predicted to be under Bay of Bangal by 2050

Potential impact of sea-level rise on Bangladesh | GRID-Arendal - Publications - Vital Climate Graphics

Warming Climate to Hit Bangladesh Hard with Sea Level Rise, More Floods and Cyclones, World Bank Report Says

YOU CAN DO THE GEOGRAPHY HERE.

http://archive.thedailystar.net/newDesign/news-details.php?nid=135529

Land mass of BD is actually increasing.

Anyway some forecasts have predicted the landmass to decrease by 16% by 2050 if NOTHING is done. This is not good but hardly the end of BD.

All that an increasingly prosperous BD has to do is to devote maybe 1% of it's GDP to sea defences and even this worse case scenario will not happen.

Sit back and burn while BD increases it's military power with the help of China.

Really

BD only exists because our dears Indira and Sam decided to send in troops to liberate that patch of semi submerged pile of increasing garbage. You now want to compare or confront India. ICG is vast and is one of the fastest growing part of the Indian military establishment.

IN won't even come to play if BD has to be taught a lesson. ICG is more than BD can handle.

What weapon does ICG have to engage BD frigates and corvettes then?

 

[Slayer786]

Sleep tight... we sliced some thing in 1971...

Well then you better sleep really peacefully. Because we have carved Pakistan out of India and Bangladesh plus we took Gilgit and Baltistan too and gave a little of Kashmir to China too. So lol when we talk about carving India has been carved out so much that I feel sorry for you indians who were dreaming of 'Akhund Bharat' or whatever that is.

 

[Janmejay]

MAGLEV in other words bullet train... am researching Electro Dynamic Suspension and as well as Magnetic Suspension, Super conductors ...etc...

MAGLEV in other words bullet train... am researching Electro Dynamic Suspension and as well as Magnetic Suspension, Super conductors ...etc...

in india or abroad?

 

[danger007]

in india or abroad?

Japan...currently living in India only..

 

[Immanuel]

What weapon does ICG have to engage BD frigates and corvettes then?[/quote]

ICG doesn't need weapons, ICG can with relative ease block all incoming ships to BD in the first place. Moreover, BD's enemy number 1 is the floods, BD shouldn't be looking to make any more enmies. Mother nature alone is more of an enemy than BD can handle

 

[GURU DUTT]

Well then you better sleep really peacefully. Because we have carved Pakistan out of India and Bangladesh plus we took Gilgit and Baltistan too and gave a little of Kashmir to China too. So lol when we talk about carving India has been carved out so much that I feel sorry for you indians who were dreaming of 'Akhund Bharat' or whatever that is.

well no indian dreams of akhand bharat and taking back/merging pakistan & bangladesh with india is owr biggest nightmare lolzzz we never wanted it other wise we could have merged bangladesh way back in 1971 but we dint cause we know its not worth it its better for us to keep you two intact and free

now the thread is about INS vikmraditya and Vikrant well we dont need CBGs or carriers now fro pakistan or bangladesh as owr land based air planes are enof to control you guys its for extending indias reach to monitor far into arbaian sea and indian ocean as for mallacka streits well IAF & IN is in process of rebuilduing and mordenizing its old Air bases in Andamn and nicobar islands which soon will hosta couple of Mid air refulers+ 3 AWACS,6 P8I ,40 MKIs + 40 LCA and equal number of helicopters with at least + one infantry and 1 imphibious assult division and a few Subs

so my friend sleep tight dont worry the latest purchases are not for pakistan or bangladesh but for countering risks posted by over zelous and ever agressive dragon and its policy of so called "string of pearls"

 

[SrNair]

Well then you better sleep really peacefully. Because we have carved Pakistan out of India and Bangladesh plus we took Gilgit and Baltistan too and gave a little of Kashmir to China too. So lol when we talk about carving India has been carved out so much that I feel sorry for you indians who were dreaming of 'Akhund Bharat' or whatever that is.

BD illegal immigrants already a liability.Who talk about AKHAND BHARAT to you ?.some guys in India
talk that and you think that is the policy of GOI pathetic.Who want a failed state like pakistan,man
use some brain otherwise go and die

 

[notorious_eagle]

Well, there is a 6-7 times gap in defense spending at the very least.

It has to translate somewhere.

It certainly hasn't translated down to the force level. As i said before, Pakistan can counter India's Corps or Division Level Deployment Strength.

 

[Slayer786]

BD illegal immigrants already a liability.Who talk about AKHAND BHARAT to you ?.some guys in India
talk that and you think that is the policy of GOI pathetic.Who want a failed state like pakistan,man
use some brain otherwise go and die

Now we are going away from the topic. But yes since the BJP came to power after the shameful destruction of Babri Masjid. Indians have started dreaming about 'Akhund Bharat'. Now with Narendan Modi BJP is set to rise and have a chance of winning the elections.

IN THE SHADOW OF SHIVA
Crazed Hindu-fascists threaten the world

"I am become Death, the shatterer of worlds."

Behind the Headlines
by Justin Raimondo
Antiwar.com
June 3, 2002

HINDU-FASCISM IN ACTION

The rise of Hindu fundamentalism as a political force in India catapulted the Bharatiya Janata Party to power and sought to expunge the Gandhian pacifism of the old militantly secular Congress Party tradition, replacing it with a new martial spirit. The idea of Hindutva, which energizes the Hindu activists, sees India not only as a Hindu state, but as a militantly revanchist force in the region, a nation determined to recapture its old empire. As I explained in a previous column devoted to this fascinating subject, the Hindutva movement has created a whole mythology based on the idea of ethnic Indians as the first and only pure Aryans: the swastika is an ancient Hindu symbol, and has been revived by what I call the Hindu-fascist forces in India. The Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the ideological center of Hindutva, has a provision in its constitution that its leader must be a blue-eyed Sarasvat Brahmin.

I hesitate to use the term "neo-Nazi" to describe a contemporary political movement, as it has become almost a ritualistic term of abuse. However, in this case, the label fits precisely: to begin with, the Hindutva theory of "Aryan" racial superiority is nearly identical to that of the German Nazis. Hitler’s followers borrowed not only the swastika but also adopted other mythic aspects of Hindu mysticism, such as the alleged Arctic origins of the "Aryan" race propagated by B. G. Tilak and others.

Marquand cites Francine Frankel, director of the Center for the Advanced Study of India, as saying that India's ruling party "has reinterpreted Hinduism to include a manly assertiveness." This is confirmed by the exclamation of one Hindu leader who, averring his support for India's nuclear program, declared "We are no longer eunuchs!"

The psycho-religious symbolism of India's nuclear exhibitionism may have eluded our political leaders, but it wasn't lost on the scholarly community. Marquand cites Sanskrit scholar Surendra Gamphir, who says militarism is so "deeply embedded [a] concept in Hindu culture that you hold scripture in one hand and a weapon in the other."

In short, what we are dealing with, in India, is a bunch of neo-Nazi nutballs with a giant nuclear chip on their shoulders – and suffering under a terrible feeling of inadequacy, or impotency. Calling a group or party "nutballs" is a bit harsh: but, again, there is no other way to describe the Indian leaders' professed indifference to the consequences of a nuclear exchange. Surely a stoic calm in the face of such a horror has deep – and dark – psychological roots. Such a volatile mixture of psychological and ideological maladies ought to have set off alarm bells, back in 1998, when they became a nuclear power, but nobody seemed to "connect the dots," as they say. As Marquand pointed out at the time:

"Yet after last month's test, experts in New Delhi and Washington are not speaking of a 'Hindu bomb' - [even] as they speak of an 'Islamic bomb.'"

India made its position clear last year, when George Fernandes, India's defense minister, declared:

"We could take a strike, survive and then hit back. Pakistan would be finished."

One Western diplomat worried aloud that "these people have never heard of Hiroshima and Nagasaki," but, then again, perhaps Westerners have trouble understanding the concept of reincarnation, which figures prominently in the religions of Asia, and especially in the Hindu tradition. You may be incinerated by a nuclear bomb in this life, but don't worry – you'll come back. Perhaps as a citizen of a more civilized country, where the idea of mass death is unthinkable. It's the next best thing to a green card.

Source: Antiwar.com