Alfa-Fighter
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so why didn't you tried when your karachi was burned down?We just need to spray pesticide and your whole west coast would perish.....
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so why didn't you tried when your karachi was burned down?We just need to spray pesticide and your whole west coast would perish.....
So you will air-to air re-fuel your 29's with a full weapon load coming to attack PN Ships..
Where do you get all this weird info.....
1971, the CBG was in the bay of Bengal with no PN presence nor PAF.
Bringing you CBG near Karachi with the present PN & PAF assets, it's altogether another ball game, and I am sure your Admiral's won't be that suicidal.
It's easy to boast IN capability on PDF. You said it yourself, in real war it ain't easy.
1240 miles is the "Ferry Range" and I am sure you have no idea what it means...
The "combat radius" is 531 miles with AA payload, which will further reduce with AG missiles...
I have been at sea for 20 years sonny and I know how it is out there.
WRONG!!! Its just nonsense to say that it would burn half of its fuel in 30 seconds of afterburner. And it has a combat radius of 850KM with full internal fuel(4500 KG) while from Ins Vikramaditya, it can takeoff with 5500 kg of total weight. Means 1000kg weapon with full internal fuel(4 AAMs or 2 antiship missiles). And make Internal fuel 3500 KG which would be enough for almost 600 KM combat radius and weapon load of 2000 kg (2-3 antiship missiles along with 2 long range AAMs, perfect for maritime strike)The combat radius is lower than 531 miles. You are forgetting, its being launched through a ski jump and not a catapult like the F18's are launched. Thus, the MIG29 will burn most of its fuel during take off as its going up full after burner. Most likely it is going to take off with half its weight due to fuel constraints. The more realistic number for combat radius would be 250-300.
Again I told you ,use your brain or go and die.I am just answer your question ,it is you
get away from topic.
Narendra Modi is not a upper class hindu, he is a lower class .So your so called nazism ended there.
Secondly you dont know about Hindus,In Islam some religious fanatics orderes something and rest of follows that folly.If some rational muslims in there ,rest of muslims will eliminate them call as traitors.But in India ,Hindu has freedom,so Hindus dominate in both congress and BJP.
They use wisdom.In this case who the f** want a failed state like pakistan?huhhh..
give me a reason.
IN navy modernistaion is not for you .INS vikramaditya and INS vikrant will use for some other big purpose.You guys think that whole modernization of India is for pakistan,who are you guys?even 40% of Indian Armed Forces and their assets is enough for pakistan
The combat radius is lower than 531 miles. You are forgetting, its being launched through a ski jump and not a catapult like the F18's are launched. Thus, the MIG29 will burn most of its fuel during take off as its going up full after burner. Most likely it is going to take off with half its weight due to fuel constraints. The more realistic number for combat radius would be 250-300.
Is idiocy an inherent trait?The indian navy never brought their carrier near the Pakistani coast and they never will, so we are not bothered. It is not a threat because they will never take the risk of bringing it close.
The main role of the PN is to safeguard the SLOC's and they will be able to do it pretty easily. The Gwadar Port and the Coastal highway has reduced this risk almost to nil.
PN has no aggressive designs to launch an offensive on the indian coast.
The figure of 531 files is without external fuel tanks. For A2A missions, the fulcrum will always fly with fuel tanks. Secondly, that figure is for mig 29A, not mig 29k. And who told you mig 29k will burn all its fuel during take? Do you even know what is its SFC at afterburner? And it won't take off with half its weight. mig 29k is capable of taking off at mtow from from STOBAR. That was the major reason IN preferred it over Su33. more realistic number for combat radius will be much higher than 531 miles. in range of 700-800 miles.
I don't understand why do you choose to spread lies among your countrymen even after being a think tank.
You are right.And how is the MIG29 going to take off with those external fuel tanks and additional weapons. Do i need to remind you for the 1000th time that the MIG29K is being launched from a Ski Jump, and not a catapult. There is only so much you do with such a small runway. The more weight you add to an aircraft, the more fuel and distance it will require to take off. Look, the lift of an aircraft is dependent on the speed and speed is dependent on acceleration. Its simply not possible for an aircraft to take off with such heavy load in such a short distance of 150m, unless the IN has a secret catapult. Physics does not support your answer, so stop making these paper claims.
The question you should be asking yourself is why are you so gullible, why do you believe every B.S propaganda fed to you?
Don't get me wrong, this is a huge achievement for India. It adds teeth to India's Force Projection, but this AC does not add much against the likes of Pakistan and China. In fact, i am more afraid of a Land Based SU30MKI swinging around the Indian Ocean and making a dash for Balochistan than a MIG29K operating from the sea.
And how is the MIG29 going to take off with those external fuel tanks and additional weapons. Do i need to remind you for the 1000th time that the MIG29K is being launched from a Ski Jump, and not a catapult. There is only so much you do with such a small runway. The more weight you add to an aircraft, the more fuel and distance it will require to take off. Look, the lift of an aircraft is dependent on the speed and speed is dependent on acceleration. Its simply not possible for an aircraft to take off with such heavy load in such a short distance of 150m, unless the IN has a secret catapult. Physics does not support your answer, so stop making these paper claims.
The question you should be asking yourself is why are you so gullible, why do you believe every B.S propaganda fed to you?
Don't get me wrong, this is a huge achievement for India. It adds teeth to India's Force Projection, but this AC does not add much against the likes of Pakistan and China. In fact, i am more afraid of a Land Based SU30MKI swinging around the Indian Ocean and making a dash for Balochistan than a MIG29K operating from the sea.
And how is the MIG29 going to take off with those external fuel tanks and additional weapons. Do i need to remind you for the 1000th time that the MIG29K is being launched from a Ski Jump, and not a catapult. There is only so much you do with such a small runway. The more weight you add to an aircraft, the more fuel and distance it will require to take off. Look, the lift of an aircraft is dependent on the speed and speed is dependent on acceleration. Its simply not possible for an aircraft to take off with such heavy load in such a short distance of 150m, unless the IN has a secret catapult. Physics does not support your answer, so stop making these paper claims.
The question you should be asking yourself is why are you so gullible, why do you believe every B.S propaganda fed to you?
Don't get me wrong, this is a huge achievement for India. It adds teeth to India's Force Projection, but this AC does not add much against the likes of Pakistan and China. In fact, i am more afraid of a Land Based SU30MKI swinging around the Indian Ocean and making a dash for Balochistan than a MIG29K operating from the sea.
That's Indian English.would someone translate posts ~#104- 114 to English? no idea what you guys said. or was that the idea??