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Yeah yeah nice try privileged turd. "Lucky they didn't throw you people into the Arabian Sea".....forgot these words that came out of your mouth?

I've had a loooooong experience dealing with privileged turds like you. I know how you mangle words to hide your racism.

The Baloch person protesting lack of resources is a separatist, he is a ghaddar, he is a RAW agent (according to you). Think about this for a second, your province got Sui gas from Balochistan in 1950s. Quetta (the first city to get natural gas in Balochistan) got it in 1980. Now if they come out to protest this, call them traitors. Advocate for military action against them.


Tumhe sharam nahi aati apni privileged zindagi mein beth ke doosro pe ghaddari ke fatway jaari kartay huay? Hum bhi tumhari hi mulk walay hain. Koi dushman mulk ke nahin hain. We share the same green passport. Take your head out of your privileged a*se and listen to our grievances for once.

Stop assuming things about me
And yes, I stand by what I said ... all ethno-facists should be thrown into the Arabian sea
Only ethno-fascists would have a problem with that statement
As they say, chor ki darhi mein tinka
 
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Punjabis, unlike people of other ethnicities, have always considered Pakistan as their own homeland first and foremost
They even gave up their mother language/culture for the sake of Urdu/unity
Isi liyay her kutta billa uth ker Punjab ko bura bhala kah laita hai



Ethnicity ka keera inherent tha.. Establishment may have exploited it.. But the point is that the Establishment never had interests of Punjab or Punjabis on their minds. Punjabis have suffered the most
@jaibi post reported for bad mouthing a particular community.
 
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Ab yeh ziada mazloom mat bano. Punjabiyon ko koi kuch nahi keh raha. Hum establishment ko keh rahay hain jis mein Punjabi aur Sindhi waderay/generals/bureacrats bharay huay hain. Jo sirf apne aur apne family and friends ki mufaad parasti karte hain.

Pakistan is a feudal oligarchy ruled by a few elite. The life of the average Pakistani holds no meaning to the state. Pakistan ka ghareeb aadmi Hinduon/Angrezon ki ghulaami se nikal ke Sindhi Punjabi waderon ki ghulaami mein agaya. Zero sum game.



It's good to see that now you have toned down your ethno-fascist rhetoric (a bit)

If you have a problem with the ruling/elite class, then you are not wrong but those who support them

But when you say that "Punjabi establishment does not care about the lives of Karachiites/Mohajirs", you are not targeting the ruling elite but a specific ethnicity. Go read the earlier posts on this thread that triggered this discussion
 
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It's good to see that now you have toned down your ethno-fascist rhetoric (a bit)

If you have a problem with the ruling/elite class, then you are not wrong but those who support them

But when you say that "Punjabi establishment does not care about the lives of Karachiites/Mohajirs", you are not targeting the ruling elite but a specific ethnicity. Go read the earlier posts on this thread that triggered this discussion
Totally agreed.
Is this establishment have punjabis only?
This should be dissect.why only punjabi are target of abuse from other ethnicities?
What is numbers of other ethnicities living and doing businesses in punjab?
Did other ethnicities did nothing wrong or they have no connection with establishment?
What type atrocities punjabis doing on other ethnicities and how they are doing?
How many punjabis got killed in other provinces and how people of other provinces got killed in punjab by ethnic groups?
 
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Totally agreed.
Is this establishment have punjabis only?
This should be dissect.why only punjabi are target of abuse from other ethnicities?
What is numbers of other ethnicities living and doing businesses in punjab?
Did other ethnicities did nothing wrong or they have no connection with establishment?
What type atrocities punjabis doing on other ethnicities and how they are doing?
How many punjabis got killed in other provinces and how people of other provinces got killed in punjab by ethnic groups?
I think Punjabis are the only group where there is actually no gang or group killing or robbing in the name of ethnicity.
Its just the way things are. Everyone blames someone else for their own shortcomings and weaknesses.
 
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Mods my post deleted for ethnic reasons.... But this guy openly allowed to abuse Urdu speakers?


Is it PAKISTAN defence forum or Punjab defence forum?


Yes because you lot are have institutionalized looting and plundering, do tell which ethnicity the corrupt generals, bureaucracy or politicians predominantly belong to?
Please tell me the name of the ruling party and the parties with most influence in Sindh and Karachi for the last 10 years.

Are you saying that there are no generals or bureaucrats from Sindh? Just for an example, where was Pervez Musharraf from?
Is PPP and MQM from punjab? And dont tell me that "establishment" is behind MQM or PPP and "establishment" is from Punjab
 
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Yes because you lot have institutionalized looting and plundering, do tell which ethnicity the corrupt generals, bureaucracy or politicians predominantly belong to?

We have had 27 Prime Ministers since 1947, Only 9 of them Punjabis (Kashmiris included). In the country's 72 years history, Pakistan has been headed by a Punjabi PM for less than 18 years (including the 5 years tenure of Punjabi PM's belonging to the Sindh based PPP, i.e. Gilani and Pervez Ashraf, and also including their tenures under dictators). Of the 12 Presidents, only 4 hailed from Punjab. And of the 4 Dictators who had imposed martial law and ruled this country, only 1 i.e Zia ul Haq (he too was a migrant from East Punjab) was a Punjabi. No Punjabi had headed Pakistan Army before 1971. But somehow Punjabis are responsible for all the ills of this nation!

As for bureaucracy, Mohajirs were given 15% quota in civil services in 1948. Punjabis just 24% (and Bengalis 42%). Get your facts straight
 
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Most of the PDF members from Karachi I think don't believe in pirs darbars.

Ye safed aata khanay se hua hai but a strong majority of Karachites are pir murid darbar log. Its just hard to con the city dwellers.
 
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I dont understand why everyone start personal attacks on this forum. Guys we can agree to disagree in a civilised manner without any abusive comments

The coterie of ehtno-facists on PDF are so used to abusing Punjabis (and getting away with it) that they have become very upset with someone pointing it out to them.. Thats why they have resorted to personal comments and abuses ... Enjoying kerain inki frustration ko :lol:
 
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The coterie of ehtno-facists on PDF are so used to abusing Punjabis (and getting away with it) that they have become very upset with someone pointing it out to them.. Thats why they have resorted to personal comments and abuses ... Enjoying kerain inki frustration ko :lol:

Who are the Hindustanis?
 
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We have had 27 Prime Ministers since 1947, Only 9 of them Punjabis (Kashmiris included). In the country's 72 years history, Pakistan has been headed by a Punjabi PM for less than 18 years (including the 5 years tenure of Punjabi PM's belonging to the Sindh based PPP, i.e. Gilani and Pervez Ashraf, and also including their tenures under dictators). Of the 12 Presidents, only 4 hailed from Punjab. And of the 4 Dictators who had imposed martial law and ruled this country, only 1 i.e Zia ul Haq (he too was a migrant from East Punjab) was a Punjabi. No Punjabi had headed Pakistan Army before 1971. But somehow Punjabis are responsible for all the ills of this nation!

As for bureaucracy, Mohajirs were given 15% quota in civil services in 1948. Punjabis just 24% (and Bengalis 42%). Get your facts straight


Isn't Pakistan's narrative molded and shaped by the establishment, most of whome come from the Indus region? The Gilgit Baltistanis want to be a part of Pakistan. They want to vote and have elected MPAs and MNAs but they can't because the establishment is so hung up on Kashmir. There is no voice for tribal Pathans, Balochs, Thari, Gilgiti, Muhajirs in the Pakistan narrative. Only Punjabi, Sindhis and urbanized Pathans from Mardan-Attock area decide the Pakistani narrative.

I am not blaming Punjabis. I am just saying Pakistan has a very centralized system. Every area has its own issues. Why is Thar overlooked when majority of Pakistan's coal comes from there? Or why is Waziristan overlooked? We are an agricultural cotton and sugar growing country because the establishment derives from that area and they can only think through their lens.
 
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