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Nice discussion on the future Pakistan-US relations?



I think the US has pushed Pakistan far enough.
At least for now, Pakistan needs to be in good terms with US government until the US withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Then Pakistan should support to overthrow of the puppet government in Kabul and install the legitimate rulers of Afghanistan: Taliban. That way the US would have wasted a trillion$ and many lives as a payback for the drones they use to kill so many Pakistanis.
Also, as was said in the video, unlike America, China's support of Pakistan doesn't come with strings attached, so a strong relationship with China is important.
 
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Usa defiantly needs Pakistan more if they want a stable Afghanistan.
 
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Nice discussion on the future Pakistan-US relations?



I think the US has pushed Pakistan far enough.
At least for now, Pakistan needs to be in good terms with US government until the US withdrawal from Afghanistan.
Then Pakistan should support to overthrow of the puppet government in Kabul and install the legitimate rulers of Afghanistan: Taliban. That way the US would have wasted a trillion$ and many lives as a payback for the drones they use to kill so many Pakistanis.
Also, as was said in the video, unlike America, China's support of Pakistan doesn't come with strings attached, so a strong relationship with China is important.

What else can be expected from an arse saudi moron!! instead of encouraging peace and brotherhood you idiots are playing with all Muslims around the world you saudis are the main problem I hope Iran get the nukes and nuke you on day 1!! that day will be end of terrorism in this world and every human being will live in peace! I wonder how long the oil may keep you the best slave among slaves!
 
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What else can be expected from an arse saudi moron!! instead of encouraging peace and brotherhood you idiots are playing with all Muslims around the world you saudis are the main problem I hope Iran get the nukes and nuke you on day 1!! that day will be end of terrorism in this world and every human being will live in peace! I wonder how long the oil may keep you the best slave among slaves!

Simple question: Do most Afghans want/support karzai government?
No
If it wasn't for the US invasion of Afghanistan, the Taliban would still control Afghanistan.
So IMO, they are the legitimate rulers of Afghanistan.
 
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What else can be expected from an arse saudi moron!! instead of encouraging peace and brotherhood you idiots are playing with all Muslims around the world you saudis are the main problem I hope Iran get the nukes and nuke you on day 1!! that day will be end of terrorism in this world and every human being will live in peace! I wonder how long the oil may keep you the best slave among slaves!

Get in line. The number of people who want Iran to nuke Saudis "Is too damn high".
 
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What else can be expected from an arse saudi moron!! instead of encouraging peace and brotherhood you idiots are playing with all Muslims around the world you saudis are the main problem I hope Iran get the nukes and nuke you on day 1!! that day will be end of terrorism in this world and every human being will live in peace! I wonder how long the oil may keep you the best slave among slaves!

Wow this is a new opinion :fie:
 
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Get in line. The number of people who want Iran to nuke Saudis "Is too damn high".

I sometimes ask myself, why do we always wish all the best from all of our hearts to all Muslims and humans, while they pray for our destruction and annihilation? I don't know why I love Afghans, but I realy love them, they suffered too much, and yet deserve to live a better future. I don't get it anymore...
 
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Get in line. The number of people who want Iran to nuke Saudis "Is too damn high".

Hey, on a serious note...why the heck doesn't Saudi Arabia build a nuke of her own ? Now is the best time for it as the world is busy admonishing Iran for her program and 'Self-defense' as a Sales-pitch just might work. If Saudi Arabia were to ask Pakistan and China for technical assistance, both the disclosed and the undisclosed type, She should be able to have an up and running Nuclear Program in about 10 years....heck you guys should have started this initiative 5 years back !
 
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Constructive dicussion by the penalists
Mr. Akbar Ahmad has presented Pakistan's case very well. A good diplomate indeed.

Being a Pakistani the only thing attracts me towards taliban is their positive approch towards Pakistan and thats it. Even though, I have never been to Afghanistan but, have heard a lot of stories about taliban's atrocities thats y for the sake of Afghan ppl, I woucant support taliban.

Dnt want to discuss abt saudi's nukes as the topic of this thread is not about KSA defence.
 
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What else can be expected from an arse saudi moron!! instead of encouraging peace and brotherhood you idiots are playing with all Muslims around the world you saudis are the main problem I hope Iran get the nukes and nuke you on day 1!! that day will be end of terrorism in this world and every human being will live in peace! I wonder how long the oil may keep you the best slave among slaves!

Muslims should stick together and not fight with each other. Look at Christians, Jews, and Hindus they stick together and never fight with each other.

If you are really Muslim, you would never want Saudi Arabia to be nuked. I know there are a small percentage of Afghans like you who want hindus and crusaders in Afghanistan and share the same interests as hindus and crusaders, but not the majority. Afghans are strong supporters of Muslim Ummah, always were.

By the way, Iran also wants United States out of the region.
 
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Pakistan has no choice but to make peace with US because Pak economy is broke they can't even afford $1.5bn for a pipeline and their goverment is begging left, right and centre for aid :confused:
 
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Pakistan has no choice but to make peace with US because Pak economy is broke they can't even afford $1.5bn for a pipeline and their goverment is begging left, right and centre for aid :confused:

My friend not a single 3rd world country has choice but to make peace with US. India has a good economy at this moment which ironically has givin many indians' right to call us a begger. I would like to see if india is able enough to manage their economy if she come across a continues war spread over a decade and their opponent is nobody but a super power.

War is a hell, I really dnt even wish for our enemy to be in the same situation as we r in.
 
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My friend not a single 3rd world country has choice but to make peace with US. India has a good economy at this moment which ironically has givin many indians' right to call us a begger. I would like to see if india is able enough to manage their economy if she come across a continues war spread over a decade and their opponent is nobody but a super power.

War is a hell, I really dnt even wish for our enemy to be in the same situation as we r in.



You made your bed and you lie on it but in part thanks to Zia Pakistan became the Jihad centre of the world.


It is no coincidence people from all over the world seek terror training in Pakistan so how you expect companies and countries to invest in Pakistan when they see ISI your security service in bed with militants.
 
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You made your bed and you lie on it but in part thanks to Zia Pakistan became the Jihad centre of the world.


It is no coincidence people from all over the world seek terror training in Pakistan so how you expect companies and countries to invest in Pakistan when they see ISI your security service in bed with militants.

So, ur point is our ISI is bedding with militants and ur RAW and other inteligence agencies are bedding NGOs.

go and get a life please and if u cant then stay in ur bed. we dnt required ur insight
 
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So, ur point is our ISI is bedding with militants and ur RAW and other inteligence agencies are bedding NGOs.

go and get a life please and if u cant then stay in ur bed. we dnt required ur insight




ISI is in bed with jihadis ask MI5 to CIA they all sing with the same tune

Pakistan has little choice but to mend ties otherwise it would not get any more US cash most of which is diverted to the Pakistani military instead of the civilians as what happened during Musharaf.
 
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