US Navy proposing major show of force to warn China

[Kyle Sun]

In history over and over again, the effort of a society to hold back a new and upcoming economy always has been something they have to regret in the year ahead. That happened to the UK when they tried to hold back the US. Let's see whether that will happen to the US.

 

[kungfugymnast]

No need JP help, CN is falling into 2023 chaos as we predicted. Time to think how much land-islands we can grab from CN instead of thinking abt help.

Why do you hate China? If you're Vietnamese, your genetic is the same as southern Chinese. Are you going to attack china from behind when Chinese are fighting against US invading forces? FYI, US made Iraq to attack Iran back then, Iraq being overthrown. US tricked China to attack Vietnam back then, US made the Chinese students to overthrow China leaders. If US could trick Vietnam to overthrow China tomorrow, they too would encourage Vietnamese to overthrow Vietnam communism with democracy or support the ethnics in the south to break away from Vietnam. America supported Taliban to overthrow Afghanistan leaders led to many innocent killed. America supported the violent traitors in Indonesia to overthrow the communist leader resulted in worst genocide over 500,000 innocents killed. Americans happy to see that happen, they said the genocide is fine as long as rivals being defeated.

If America at war with China, 1 thing for sure is that Japan and South Korea would stay out of it and prevent Americans from using their lands to deploy invading force. They will follow the winner at the end. If China defeated America, they will welcome China as new ally and the hero who defeated America.

Based on Baba Vanga's prediction, experts said US would lose the trade war and if America is to attack China with military, America would suffer the worst losses in history which would end up with China as the new #1 superpower.

 

[Viva_Viet]

Why do you hate China? If you're Vietnamese, your genetic is the same as southern Chinese. Are you going to attack china from behind when Chinese are fighting against US invading forces? FYI, US made Iraq to attack Iran back then, Iraq being overthrown. US tricked China to attack Vietnam back then, US made the Chinese students to overthrow China leaders. If US could trick Vietnam to overthrow China tomorrow, they too would encourage Vietnamese to overthrow Vietnam communism with democracy or support the ethnics in the south to break away from Vietnam. America supported Taliban to overthrow Afghanistan leaders led to many innocent killed. America supported the violent traitors in Indonesia to overthrow the communist leader resulted in worst genocide over 500,000 innocents killed. Americans happy to see that happen, they said the genocide is fine as long as rivals being defeated.

If America at war with China, 1 thing for sure is that Japan and South Korea would stay out of it and prevent Americans from using their lands to deploy invading force. They will follow the winner at the end. If China defeated America, they will welcome China as new ally and the hero who defeated America.

Based on Baba Vanga's prediction, experts said US would lose the trade war and if America is to attack China with military, America would suffer the worst losses in history which would end up with China as the new #1 superpower.

So now u realize that US tricked CN to attack VN in 1979 ( and US willing to share Intel from her spy bird to PLA in the war) ?

I told u guys already, when CN is in 2023 chaos, if VN dont grab islands in SCS( east sea) back then another one ( PH, JP,TW etc) wil grab it wt US's support and both CN-VN r losers.

VN fought against both US-CN and we know who is stronger. VN must took 20 years wt full support from communist bloc to kick US out of South VN while we only took few weeks wt militia and border guard force to kick PLA back( even when PLA got help from US spy bird). so when US start trade war ( and even hot war) against CN, then we know exactly CN will be a loser in 2023.

CN have no chance to survive cos u guys only good at begging to the super power like Soviet ( helped Mao to defeat Chiang) and US( help CN in economy) and bullying small nations. So, VN'd better think abt how much lands we can grab from CN when u r in chaos than hoping CN may win in trade war.

 

[SEAISI]

So now u realize that US tricked CN to attack VN in 1979 ( and US willing to share Intel from her spy bird to PLA in the war) ?

I told u guys already, when CN is in 2023 chaos, if VN dont grab islands in SCS( east sea) back then another one ( PH, JP,TW etc) wil grab it wt US's support and both CN-VN r losers.

VN fought against both US-CN and we know who is stronger. VN must took 20 years wt full support from communist bloc to kick US out of South VN while we only took few weeks wt militia and border guard force to kick PLA back( even when PLA got help from US spy bird). so when US start trade war ( and even hot war) against CN, then we know exactly CN will be a loser in 2023.

CN have no chance to survive cos u guys only good at begging to the super power like Soviet ( helped Mao to defeat Chiang) and US( help CN in economy) and bullying small nations. So, VN'd better think abt how much lands we can grab from CN when u r in chaos than hoping CN may win in trade war.

You are a retard

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

You are a retard

Have some sympathy, his cognitive development was severely impaired by Agent Orange.

 

[kungfugymnast]

So now u realize that US tricked CN to attack VN in 1979 ( and US willing to share Intel from her spy bird to PLA in the war) ?

I told u guys already, when CN is in 2023 chaos, if VN dont grab islands in SCS( east sea) back then another one ( PH, JP,TW etc) wil grab it wt US's support and both CN-VN r losers.

VN fought against both US-CN and we know who is stronger. VN must took 20 years wt full support from communist bloc to kick US out of South VN while we only took few weeks wt militia and border guard force to kick PLA back( even when PLA got help from US spy bird). so when US start trade war ( and even hot war) against CN, then we know exactly CN will be a loser in 2023.

CN have no chance to survive cos u guys only good at begging to the super power like Soviet ( helped Mao to defeat Chiang) and US( help CN in economy) and bullying small nations. So, VN'd better think abt how much lands we can grab from CN when u r in chaos than hoping CN may win in trade war.

China in the old days were Mao oriented which rely on war and high taxes. Ever since China dumped the old way embracing facts and science, they are heading the right way.

Vietnam should restart alliance with China instead since the old bunch of pro Mao leaders were long gone. You can't blame China alone as it was left abandoned during Mao's regime and split from Soviet Union. A desperate leader trying to please Americans back then with no else to turn to would be easily tricked into conspiracy plot.

Petroleum is not really renewable energy but plenty on earth and would regenerate faster than any other minerals being symbiotic. US made up the story that petroleum is fossil fuel (from dead animal) which is not. China taking over spratlys to mine fuel and pay dividends to other claimants is best solution. Petroleum will be worthless when more rigs are established. Philippines for example, their navy could now roam around spratlys since Duterte started friendship with China and came to best solution.

By 2023, China will still be there and prosper further. Vietnam and Philippine too could follow if they embrace development, trade and science. US could always carry out military exercise all they want. If they don't solve the main cause of their business failure (caused by unqualified people holding management jobs in most of US key companies), the Americans will always blame China over own failure. Trump only against Russia and China after he failed to revive US businesses in overseas. The current projection, US would lose when petroleum price drops drastically as their currency pegged to petrodollar.

 

[Viva_Viet]

China in the old days were Mao oriented which rely on war and high taxes. Ever since China dumped the old way embracing facts and science, they are heading the right way.

Vietnam should restart alliance with China instead since the old bunch of pro Mao leaders were long gone. You can't blame China alone as it was left abandoned during Mao's regime and split from Soviet Union. A desperate leader trying to please Americans back then with no else to turn to would be easily tricked into conspiracy plot.
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True,we cant just blame CN alone, its our fault when abandoned CN and ally wt Soviet, but we need to unify Sub Mekong region while Deng tried his best to stop it in 1979 by joining US's side to slap sanction on VN and supporting Pol Pot against VN.

Now, we still need to unify Sub Mekong region to get bigger and stronger, if Xi dont help VN, then it'd better to let CN fall into chaos in 2023 so No one can stop VN to re unify Sub Mekong region.

Petroleum is not really renewable energy but plenty on earth and would regenerate faster than any other minerals being symbiotic. US made up the story that petroleum is fossil fuel (from dead animal) which is not. China taking over spratlys to mine fuel and pay dividends to other claimants is best solution. Petroleum will be worthless when more rigs are established. Philippines for example, their navy could now roam around spratlys since Duterte started friendship with China and came to best solution.

By 2023, China will still be there and prosper further. Vietnam and Philippine too could follow if they embrace development, trade and science. US could always carry out military exercise all they want. If they don't solve the main cause of their business failure (caused by unqualified people holding management jobs in most of US key companies), the Americans will always blame China over own failure. Trump only against Russia and China after he failed to revive US businesses in overseas. The current projection, US would lose when petroleum price drops drastically as their currency pegged to petrodollar

Pls dont just convice ppl that China will still be there and prosper further by 2023. Take some analyst Dude:

-In military field : PLA-PLAN-PLAF still suck-coward-useless-no real experience in real hard war (in 1979 war, Deng didnt dare to use PLAF cos PLAF pilots suck, no experience and Deng had to beg for Intel from US spy bird instead), so, CN military force will not able to help CN to get some advance against US-UK-JP forces that sailing around CN now and waiting for CN chaos to re take HK-Macau-Nanjing-Islands in SCS(east VN sea) etc

-In economic field: CN economy is falling, stock is falling, jobs are losing, ppl are in panic, many CNese elites saying that Xi is going wrong way etc

Its just 2018 and there have been so many troubles in CN already, so only CN trying to hope that they will survive till 2023 while UK-JP-Cad-Mex etc believe CN will fall and they join US's side and prepare to grab CN lands-islands.

So, seem like u guys need to convince UK-JP-Cad-Mex etc first that CN will not fall, and tell them to join CN's side. Otherwhile, CN lands will be torn aparts like in Qing's time.

 

[kungfugymnast]

True,we cant just blame CN alone, its our fault when abandoned CN and ally wt Soviet, but we need to unify Sub Mekong region while Deng tried his best to stop it in 1979 by joining US's side to slap sanction on VN and supporting Pol Pot against VN.

Now, we still need to unify Sub Mekong region to get bigger and stronger, if Xi dont help VN, then it'd better to let CN fall into chaos in 2023 so No one can stop VN to re unify Sub Mekong region.


Pls dont just convice ppl that China will still be there and prosper further by 2023. Take some analyst Dude:

-In military field : PLA-PLAN-PLAF still suck-coward-useless-no real experience in real hard war (in 1979 war, Deng didnt dare to use PLAF cos PLAF pilots suck, no experience and Deng had to beg for Intel from US spy bird instead), so, CN military force will not able to help CN to get some advance against US-UK-JP forces that sailing around CN now and waiting for CN chaos to re take HK-Macau-Nanjing-Islands in SCS(east VN sea) etc

-In economic field: CN economy is falling, stock is falling, jobs are losing, ppl are in panic, many CNese elites saying that Xi is going wrong way etc

Its just 2018 and there have been so many troubles in CN already, so only CN trying to hope that they will survive till 2023 while UK-JP-Cad-Mex etc believe CN will fall and they join US's side and prepare to grab CN lands-islands.

So, seem like u guys need to convince UK-JP-Cad-Mex etc first that CN will not fall, and tell them to join CN's side. Otherwhile, CN lands will be torn aparts like in Qing's time.

Baba Vanga and economic experts said so. China will still be there in 2023. America banning China goods is only limited to America. China's main customers are mostly Asia, Africa, Middle East. Many of the factories in China were to cater for local demand while for export to US is secondary. China is building more cities and jobs for its people after the cooperation project in America cancelled.

Do you still think China today is interested to invade Vietnam? Not anymore coz it doesn't bring much profit. They prefer having more developing nations so that more countries could buy their goods and services. If China wanted to invade, they would prefer Pacific islands that have petroleum deposits to fuel their development. Back then, deep ocean mining was impossible. Now that there's new advanced drilling nozzles available, oil rigs could pump crude oil from deep ocean. This is why petroleum become cheaper but only being held back by certain parties that wanted to stabilize pricing.

If China being destroyed, Russia will be weakened or liberated too leaving US the only sole unchallenged superpower. If they wanted to divide and conquer your country at that time, your country military will be defenseless. Just put on embargo alone will starve the country dry .

 

[rambro]

True,we cant just blame CN alone, its our fault when abandoned CN and ally wt Soviet, but we need to unify Sub Mekong region while Deng tried his best to stop it in 1979 by joining US's side to slap sanction on VN and supporting Pol Pot against VN.

Now, we still need to unify Sub Mekong region to get bigger and stronger, if Xi dont help VN, then it'd better to let CN fall into chaos in 2023 so No one can stop VN to re unify Sub Mekong region.


Pls dont just convice ppl that China will still be there and prosper further by 2023. Take some analyst Dude:

-In military field : PLA-PLAN-PLAF still suck-coward-useless-no real experience in real hard war (in 1979 war, Deng didnt dare to use PLAF cos PLAF pilots suck, no experience and Deng had to beg for Intel from US spy bird instead), so, CN military force will not able to help CN to get some advance against US-UK-JP forces that sailing around CN now and waiting for CN chaos to re take HK-Macau-Nanjing-Islands in SCS(east VN sea) etc

-In economic field: CN economy is falling, stock is falling, jobs are losing, ppl are in panic, many CNese elites saying that Xi is going wrong way etc

Its just 2018 and there have been so many troubles in CN already, so only CN trying to hope that they will survive till 2023 while UK-JP-Cad-Mex etc believe CN will fall and they join US's side and prepare to grab CN lands-islands.

So, seem like u guys need to convince UK-JP-Cad-Mex etc first that CN will not fall, and tell them to join CN's side. Otherwhile, CN lands will be torn aparts like in Qing's time.

N i thought agent orange n napalm carpet bombing, massacre villages was the more horrendous.

Guess not

 

[Viva_Viet]

Baba Vanga and economic experts said so. China will still be there in 2023. America banning China goods is only limited to America. China's main customers are mostly Asia, Africa, Middle East. Many of the factories in China Baba Vanga and economic experts were to cater for local demand while for export to US is secondary. China is building more cities and jobs for its people after the cooperation project in America cancelled.

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U need to convince UK-JP-Cad-Mex etc they believe CN will fall (in 2023) and they join US's side and prepare to grab CN lands-islands. Seeing UK-JP warships sailling around you ?? WHy Baba Vanga and economic experts' can not convince them ??

Do you still think China today is interested to invade Vietnam? Not anymore coz it doesn't bring much profit. They prefer having more developing nations so that more countries could buy their goods and services. If China wanted to invade, they would prefer Pacific islands that have petroleum deposits to fuel their development. Back then, deep ocean mining was impossible. Now that there's new advanced drilling nozzles available, oil rigs could pump crude oil from deep ocean. This is why petroleum become cheaper but only being held back by certain parties that wanted to stabilize pricing.

If China being destroyed, Russia will be weakened or liberated too leaving US the only sole unchallenged superpower. If they wanted to divide and conquer your country at that time, your country military will be defenseless. Just put on embargo alone will starve the country dry

Good, then pls dont try to stop our sub Mekong unification like in 1979, strong sub Mekong region will strengthen communist bloc against US.

If China being destroyed, with Russia help again, then no one can stop our sub Mekong unification like in 1979. When VN can control Malacca strait, then US must think twice if she wanna slap sanction on VN cos we will block both Malacca strait and SCS(east VN sea) wt sea mine.

 

[haidian]

Show of talking

 

[rambro]

U need to convince UK-JP-Cad-Mex etc they believe CN will fall (in 2023) and they join US's side and prepare to grab CN lands-islands. Seeing UK-JP warships sailling around you ?? WHy Baba Vanga and economic experts' can not convince them ??
Good, then pls dont try to stop our sub Mekong unification like in 1979, strong sub Mekong region will strengthen communist bloc against US.

If China being destroyed, with Russia help again, then no one can stop our sub Mekong unification like in 1979. When VN can control Malacca strait, then US must think twice if she wanna slap sanction on VN cos we will block both Malacca strait and SCS(east VN sea) wt sea mine.

What a moron, self-pleasure feels good eh?

Hahaha what makes u think malaysia, sg, thai, inonesia going to let u lay sea mines in mrlaka straights? To do dat u need to face our combined navy

its good to hv dreams, it gives u hope of being sub mekong supa powa watever that is.

 

[Viva_Viet]

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What a moron, self-pleasure feels good eh?

Hahaha what makes u think malaysia, sg, thai, inonesia going to let u lay sea mines in mrlaka straights? To do dat u need to face our combined navy

its good to hv dreams, it gives u hope of being sub mekong supa powa watever that is.

wow.u believe your army can fight and can protect Thai against VN ?? we attacked Thai from 1979 to 1988, so did your country send any troops to help Thai when she was attcked by VN ?? or its CN who tries to stop VN's invasion by begging help from JP-US to continously attack our border from 1979 to 1988 ??

 

[kungfugymnast]

U need to convince UK-JP-Cad-Mex etc they believe CN will fall (in 2023) and they join US's side and prepare to grab CN lands-islands. Seeing UK-JP warships sailling around you ?? WHy Baba Vanga and economic experts' can not convince them ??
Good, then pls dont try to stop our sub Mekong unification like in 1979, strong sub Mekong region will strengthen communist bloc against US.

If China being destroyed, with Russia help again, then no one can stop our sub Mekong unification like in 1979. When VN can control Malacca strait, then US must think twice if she wanna slap sanction on VN cos we will block both Malacca strait and SCS(east VN sea) wt sea mine.

Don't have to convince, just have to show. Please check how much percentage is US market share from China GDP. You can keep living in your own assumption, if you look through all past comments from Vietnamese that still wanted hostility based on past 80's reasons, China been progressing further.

With China destroyed, Russia will be left isolated with vulnerable southern border. With embargo placed on Russia at that time, their only route only through Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan. Vietnam will be next commies to be liberated by America. There's no more China to supply cheap rifles to Vietnam. Another US-Vietnam war, the Americans already knew Vietnam Army jungle warfare tactics and there are new advanced weapons specifically to destroy underground tunnels and jungles. Unlike back then, Vietnam can't fight US in modern warfare anymore.

 

[Viet]

Don't have to convince, just have to show. Please check how much percentage is US market share from China GDP. You can keep living in your own assumption, if you look through all past comments from Vietnamese that still wanted hostility based on past 80's reasons, China been progressing further.

With China destroyed, Russia will be left isolated with vulnerable southern border. With embargo placed on Russia at that time, their only route only through Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan. Vietnam will be next commies to be liberated by America. There's no more China to supply cheap rifles to Vietnam. Another US-Vietnam war, the Americans already knew Vietnam Army jungle warfare tactics and there are new advanced weapons specifically to destroy underground tunnels and jungles. Unlike back then, Vietnam can't fight US in modern warfare anymore.

You are talking on scenarios that will never happen again: a Vietnam war redux with America. It is China that poses existential threat. Not America, neither France nor Japan. Not even the UK, nor will Mongol hordes that once attacked Vietnam in three waves in ancient times.