US: Decision-making on India insulated from bureaucracy

[janon]

IS wants to contain China.. Let's not kid ourself on that one.

I'm guessing you mean US - for a moment I was wondering whether ISIS has reached China.

Yes, I'm sure the Americans want to contain China. But full fledged war? How do you think that would end?

Also, my point was that even in the unlikely event of a US-China war, India will not side with either. Being non aligned is a very strong pillar of our foreign policy. No govt would dare to change that - public opinion is very strongly for this policy.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I'm guessing you mean US - for a moment I was wondering whether ISIS has reached China.

Yes, I'm sure the Americans want to contain China. But full fledged war? How do you think that would end?

Also, my point was that even in the unlikely event of a US-China war, India will not side with either. Being non aligned is a very strong pillar of our foreign policy. No govt would dare to change that - public opinion is very strongly for this policy.

No not a full fledge war.. ( specially between USA- China)... But they would be more than happy to let you do the heavy lifting ..

 

[DrawingDead]

...and you are still the largest buyers of good made from child labor. We have the largest number of poor people in the world, not forced slavery like what you used to have. Slaver was and IS illegal in India unlike the US which provided Legal cover that made purchase and sale of slaves a profitable industry. You are the one to talk. LOL.

You covertly support pakistan Nukes by providing billions of $ in aid, without which they would have become a failed state with NO nukes. Pakistan has Nukes BECAUSE of US, India has Nukes IN SPITE of US. The distinction is very clear. Same goes for Israel.

Our diplomat entered the US as a proper diplomat. Nothing changed. She did pay her maid fair wages as per Indian law since both of them were INDIAN Citizens.

LOL at your "moral outrage" over illegal slavery You might be ok with state sanctioned strip search and rape of diplomats in the 21st century, we are not. Why are the citizens of US embassy in India not paying their maids US salary ? ....... where is your "moral outrage" then ? Where is your moral outrage when US citizens commit murder on foreign soil and then claim diplomatic immunity even when they were NOT diplomats ?

You may be ok with condoning MURDER in the 21st century, we are not. But I do not fee too sad about this. Its expected behaviour from a Nation renowned for owning slaves and treating coloured folks like second class citizens.

GOLD still remains the GLOBAL STANDARD for hoarding wealth because INDIA set the standards much before your country or civilization was born. So we are a much better Has been than you ever will be.

Better worry about how those US soldiers will come back home without being slaughtered by the same people who you pay Billions of $'s of protection money.

We had slavery 150 years ago when the republic of India didn't exist. You STILL have it.

Your girl didn't have full diplomatic immunity. She only had immunity for actions in the course of her duties. She wasn't high enough in the food chain to have full diplomatic immunity. Also, while a nation's consulate is considered it's sovereign territory and all its rules apply, she lived in my country, outside the consulate along with her maid. She has to abide our rules. We don't care if you believe in paying people substandard wages in your country. But once you step onto ours, you need to follow the law 'cause we don't give shyte if your feelings get hurt by our procedures.

I have no moral outrage when US citizens claim diplomatic immunity for crimes abroad. It's up to the country where the crime was committed to decide whether they want to accept it or not.

Oh by the way, gold hasn't been the standard for world economies in a quite a while. You should read up more.

Thanks for your concern for our armed forces. I would say something similar to you considering everything that happens in your country but I'm going to show Indian soldiers the respect they deserve and not indulge in a pissing contest with you.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

We had slavery 150 years ago when the republic of India didn't exist. You STILL have it.

Your girl didn't have full diplomatic immunity. She only had immunity for actions in the course of her duties. She wasn't high enough in the food chain to have full diplomatic immunity. Also, while a nation's consulate is considered it's sovereign territory and all its rules apply, she lived in my country, outside the consulate along with her maid. She has to abide our rules. We don't care if you believe in paying people substandard wages in your country. But once you step onto ours, you need to follow the law 'cause we don't give shyte if your feelings get hurt by our procedures.

I have no moral outrage when US citizens claim diplomatic immunity for crimes abroad. It's up to the country where the crime was committed to decide whether they want to accept it or not.

Oh by the way, gold hasn't been the standard for world economies in a quite a while. You should read up more.

Thanks for your concern for our armed forces. I would say something similar to you considering everything that happens in your country but I'm going to show Indian soldiers the respect they deserve and not indulge in a pissing contest with you.

Former Slaves were given voting rights only in 1965. ALL Indians were allowed to vote even in 1947.

Devyani has FULL diplomatic immunity right from day one. It has already been established in US courts. Check your facts. We do not care for your rules and laws, we care for the Vienna Convention which takes precedence over your Nations law and we don't give a shyte about your feelings either. Which is why your Govt. had to swallow its pride and allow Devyani to go home.

Gold will always remain the last and final resting place for ALL currencies whenever there is ANY economic turbulence. Its a shame you did not show the same courtesy for the poor in my country. Then again I never expected you too have "moral" qualms about using poverty and slavery to score debating points.

 

[axisofevil]

And we have a population that is 4 time your population with 1/3 rd the land, not to mention we never had Slave labour build our economy.

You did not "allow" us to go nuclear ..... you did everything in you power to prevent us from going nuclear.

NPT was specifically brought in to prevent India from going nuclear. CTBT was brought in to target India. LOL.

You are nobody to "allow" India to do anything. OR to advice us what to buy or "not" buy. ..... OTOH you are the one desperately trying to keep you foot hold in Asia by trying to befriend India. A foothold that is slipping day by day.



LOL.... she was a "proper" diplomat all right. She was an IFS officer ..... it does not get any more "proper" than that.

We don't give a $hit about what is "hard" and not hard to do in the US. that is YOUR problem. Not ours. Spare me your crocodile tears.



At last count, Modi scrapped the Javelin and has gone for Spike missile. This in-spite of the IA wanting Javelin. Quite unlike the UPA I might add.



Again Spare us your psycho babble ....... save it for your countrymen when the cops beat you up or your Father for being brown.

Rather than pontificate worthless advice, better worry about diminishing US power.

Why wont you stfu? I posted something about Obama and your posts have been retarded. Thanks for twisting this thread and bring out your false flagging idiots to it.


Your games wont work. I can see thru the BS. Divide and ocnquer is not working. Pinning Indian s against America....gee who stands to gain from that...tsk tsk...typical



Then Americans arrive here to spew their crap. Thanks for the psych ops folk...im out of here.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Why wont you stfu? I posted something about Obama and your posts have been retarded. Thanks for twisting this thread and bring out your false flagging idiots to it.

Your games wont work. I can see thru the BS. Divide and ocnquer is not working. Pinning Indian s against America....gee who stands to gain from that...tsk tsk...typical

Then Americans arrive here to spew their crap. Thanks for the psych ops folk...im out of here.

LOL, there is no conspiracy here......... you saw what was there to be seen, the face of your fellow countrymen. Now you know why they are called the "Ugly American".

There is only one side, that is the Truth. The faster you learn to take that side the better it is for you. That way you do not have to run away when the $hit hits the ceiling.

 

[Abingdonboy]

But we're not planning on fighting your battles for you against Pakistan.

No Indian has ever asked you to do so...

So we're being polite to Pakistan.

More fool you. These guys are taking your billions and actively supporting the guys who kill your brave servicemen in Afghanistan.


I think history will judge your shortsightedness very harshly......

 

[axisofevil]

We had slavery 150 years ago when the republic of India didn't exist. You STILL have it.

Your girl didn't have full diplomatic immunity. She only had immunity for actions in the course of her duties. She wasn't high enough in the food chain to have full diplomatic immunity. Also, while a nation's consulate is considered it's sovereign territory and all its rules apply, she lived in my country, outside the consulate along with her maid. She has to abide our rules. We don't care if you believe in paying people substandard wages in your country. But once you step onto ours, you need to follow the law 'cause we don't give shyte if your feelings get hurt by our procedures.

I have no moral outrage when US citizens claim diplomatic immunity for crimes abroad. It's up to the country where the crime was committed to decide whether they want to accept it or not.

Oh by the way, gold hasn't been the standard for world economies in a quite a while. You should read up more.

Thanks for your concern for our armed forces. I would say something similar to you considering everything that happens in your country but I'm going to show Indian soldiers the respect they deserve and not indulge in a pissing contest with you.

He is not Indian. He is a Pakistani pretending to be India. They tend to do a lot of this on this website to confuse ppl. Its like psych ops....trying to affect our perceptions on India and Indians. Don't take him seriously.



As for Pakistan. No Indian expects the US to fight India's wars. The only concern India has is the US aiding Pakistan actively and not saying shit about terrorism. If the US cant call Pakistan a terror state that was supporting OBL, then why should the world give a damn about our 9/11? Its actions and incidents like this that push the world against the US>

I have an idea as to why its done, but the many do not understand.


Again the idiot who started this BS had an agenda and we stepped right into it.

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

He is not Indian. He is a Pakistani pretending to be India. They tend to do a lot of this on this website to confuse ppl. Its like psych ops....trying to affect our perceptions on India and Indians. Don't take him seriously.

As for Pakistan. No Indian expects the US to fight India's wars. The only concern India has is the US aiding Pakistan actively and not saying shit about terrorism. If the US cant call Pakistan a terror state that was supporting OBL, then why should the world give a damn about our 9/11? Its actions and incidents like this that push the world against the US>

I have an idea as to why its done, but the many do not understand.

Again the idiot who started this BS had an agenda and we stepped right into it.

 

[mehul sharma]

I care I am from America. He leading America is good for the world. Think if China was the sole superpower ...

what US the super power is doing about IS

 

[Mike_Brando]

You're the center of the universe?? Dude, we've got a STATE with bigger economy than your country of 1.2 billion people. Oh, before you go all high and mighty on us, don't forget you armed the LTTE in Sri Lanka or the Bangladesh insurgents? We also "allowed" you to go nuclear. So what's the big deal about Israel? We don't care about your feelings. If you feel the cheap Russian crap that drops out of the sky is the way to go, be my guest. Hell, why stop there? Go ahead and buy the knock off of the cheap Russian crap that falls out of the sky from China

Seriously you "allowed" us to go nuclear!!Buddy i don't have a feeling of animosity against the U.S.A. or for that matter it's citizens.Heck on the contrary,i am quite comfortable with the fact that U.S.A. and not China is the global "Policeman" in this present scenario,but the truth is that your country and specifically the C.I.A. did everything in their might to stop us from acquiring nuclear weapons and technologies.Heck your intelligence agents assassinated the top Indian nuclear scientist Dr.Homi J.Bhaba in order to stop our nuclear program.
Homi J. Bhabha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Homi bhaba's death- CIA

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

Seriously you "allowed" us to go nuclear!!Buddy i don't have a feeling of animosity against the U.S.A. or for that matter it's citizens.Heck on the contrary,i am quite comfortable with the fact that U.S.A. and not China is the global "Policeman" in this present scenario,but the truth is that your country and specifically the C.I.A. did everything in their might to stop us from acquiring nuclear weapons and technologies.Heck your intelligence agents assassinated the top Indian nuclear scientist Dr.Homi J.Bhaba in order to stop our nuclear program.
Homi J. Bhabha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Homi bhaba's death- CIA

They also assassinated our PM Lal Bahadur Shashtri.

Not to mention the character assassination of Modi.

 

[DrawingDead]

Seriously you "allowed" us to go nuclear!!Buddy i don't have a feeling of animosity against the U.S.A. or for that matter it's citizens.Heck on the contrary,i am quite comfortable with the fact that U.S.A. and not China is the global "Policeman" in this present scenario,but the truth is that your country and specifically the C.I.A. did everything in their might to stop us from acquiring nuclear weapons and technologies.Heck your intelligence agents assassinated the top Indian nuclear scientist Dr.Homi J.Bhaba in order to stop our nuclear program.
Homi J. Bhabha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Homi bhaba's death- CIA

Just read post #35. I'm getting a little tired of explaining the same thing to each one of you individually.

 

[ChennaiDude]

And we have a population that is 4 time your population with 1/3 rd the land, not to mention we never had Slave labour build our economy.

You did not "allow" us to go nuclear ..... you did everything in you power to prevent us from going nuclear.

NPT was specifically brought in to prevent India from going nuclear. CTBT was brought in to target India. LOL.

You are nobody to "allow" India to do anything. OR to advice us what to buy or "not" buy. ..... OTOH you are the one desperately trying to keep you foot hold in Asia by trying to befriend India. A foothold that is slipping day by day.



LOL.... she was a "proper" diplomat all right. She was an IFS officer ..... it does not get any more "proper" than that.

We don't give a $hit about what is "hard" and not hard to do in the US. that is YOUR problem. Not ours. Spare me your crocodile tears.



At last count, Modi scrapped the Javelin and has gone for Spike missile. This in-spite of the IA wanting Javelin. Quite unlike the UPA I might add.



Again Spare us your psycho babble ....... save it for your countrymen when the cops beat you up or your Father for being brown.

Rather than pontificate worthless advice, better worry about diminishing US power.

One simple question. Why the hatred towards USA...any specific reason?

There are plenty of people who want to nail me to the cross and demonize me ....... that would make me jesus

It would be better if they do that on an upside down cross. That would make you a demon!

 

[MokshaVimukthi]

One simple question. Why the hatred towards USA...any specific reason?

Why that assumption ? feeling insecure ?

It would be better if they do that on an upside down cross. That would make you a demon!

You would know best. I am a Hindu so I wouldn't know.