Urgent- India's argument on Kashmir -crux of Kashmir debate

[MultaniGuy]

Usually I have come across Indians who keep saying "Pakistan needs to remove troops from Kashmir" bullshit.

Oh then there is another one, the Indian then harp saying "The United Nations resolutions are not binding"

Which United Nations resolutions are not binding? They never explain this part.
@Indus Pakistan
@waz
@HRK
@AgNoStiC MuSliM


But this 1952 UNSC resolution 98 modifies this condition.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 98
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UN Security Council
Resolution 98
Date December 23 1952
Meeting no. 611
Code S/2883 (Document)
Subject The India-Pakistan Question
Voting summary
9 voted for
None voted against
1 abstained
1 present not voting
Result Adopted
Security Council composition
Permanent members

• 
  China
• 
  France
• 
  United Kingdom
• 
  United States
• 
  Soviet Union

Non-permanentmembers

• 
  Brazil
• 
  Chile
• 
  Greece
• 
  Netherlands
• 
  Pakistan
• 
  Turkey

United Nations Security Council Resolution 98, adopted on December 23, 1952, urged the Governments of India and Pakistan to enter into immediate negotiations under the auspices of the United Nations Representative for India and Pakistan in order to reach an agreement on the specific number of troops to remain of each side of the cease-fire line at the end of the previously established period of demilitarization. As proposed by the UN Representative this number was to be between 6000 Azad forces and 3500 Gilgit and northern scouts on the Pakistani side and 18000 Indian forces and 6000 local state forces on the Indian side.[1] The resolution then thanked the UN Representative for his efforts, requested the Governments of India and Pakistan report to the Council no later than 30 days after the adoption of this resolution and asked the UN Representative to keep the Council informed of any progress.

The resolution was adopted by nine votes to none. The Soviet Union abstained and Pakistan did not participate in the voting.

See also[edit]

• List of United Nations Security Council Resolutions 1 to 100 (1946 – 1953)
• United Nations Security Council Resolution 91
• United Nations Security Council Resolution 96

References[edit]

• Text of the Resolution at undocs.org

Wikisource has original text related to this article:
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This 1952 UNSC resolution 98 supersedes the 1948 UNSC resolution that Indians love to quote.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Your views?

 

[Imran Khan]

Your views?

both countries should free the kashmir and make it a separate free country case will be closed once forever

 

[pakistanitarzan]

both countries should free the kashmir and make it a separate free country case will be closed once forever

Wouldnt it be better to make loc international border so neither country looses any territory?

 

[Imran Khan]

Wouldnt it be better to make loc international border so neither country looses any territory?

india and paksitna may agree on LOC on border but what about kashmiris ? what they will got for LOC as border ? nothing they will keep fighting

 

[MultaniGuy]

I am waiting for @HRK to come as he is more knowledgeable on this matter than I am.

 

[xyxmt]

Wouldnt it be better to make loc international border so neither country looses any territory?

noooooo that is not an option for Pakistan. Do you have any Idea why Pakistan wants all of Kashmir?

 

[MultaniGuy]

noooooo that is not an option for Pakistan. Do you have any Idea why Pakistan wants all of Kashmir?

Yes I believe @HRK had answered @MilSpec in another thread about this matter.

@Rashid Mahmood , your views?

@Horus

 

[pakistanitarzan]

noooooo that is not an option for Pakistan. Do you have any Idea why Pakistan wants all of Kashmir?

Brother in my opinion kashmiris will opt for independent kashmir if given refferendum so what has pakistan to gain?

 

[xyxmt]

Brother in my opinion kashmiris will opt for independent kashmir if given refferendum so what has pakistan to gain?

Independence of all of Jammu and Kashmir is acceptable to Pakistan, this is same getting Kashmir. What we gain is independent Kashmir with all of their water.

 

[Rashid Mahmood]

Kashmiri people should be given the right to vote and decide whom they want to join with.

As an independent state, Kashmir will not be able to sustain for long from the hegemonic hindu state.

If they decide join Pakistan, we will defend them.

LOC cannot be adopted as International boundary.

 

[Lasit Borphukan]

Usually I have come across Indians who keep saying "Pakistan needs to remove troops from Kashmir" bullshit.
@Indus Pakistan
@waz
@HRK
@AgNoStiC MuSliM


But this 1952 UNSC resolution 98 modifies this condition.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 98
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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UN Security Council
Resolution 98
Date December 23 1952
Meeting no. 611
Code S/2883 (Document)
Subject The India-Pakistan Question
Voting summary
9 voted for
None voted against
1 abstained
1 present not voting
Result Adopted
Security Council composition
Permanent members

• 
  China
• 
  France
• 
  United Kingdom
• 
  United States
• 
  Soviet Union

Non-permanentmembers

• 
  Brazil
• 
  Chile
• 
  Greece
• 
  Netherlands
• 
  Pakistan
• 
  Turkey

United Nations Security Council Resolution 98, adopted on December 23, 1952, urged the Governments of India and Pakistan to enter into immediate negotiations under the auspices of the United Nations Representative for India and Pakistan in order to reach an agreement on the specific number of troops to remain of each side of the cease-fire line at the end of the previously established period of demilitarization. As proposed by the UN Representative this number was to be between 6000 Azad forces and 3500 Gilgit and northern scouts on the Pakistani side and 18000 Indian forces and 6000 local state forces on the Indian side.[1] The resolution then thanked the UN Representative for his efforts, requested the Governments of India and Pakistan report to the Council no later than 30 days after the adoption of this resolution and asked the UN Representative to keep the Council informed of any progress.

The resolution was adopted by nine votes to none. The Soviet Union abstained and Pakistan did not participate in the voting.

See also[edit]

• List of United Nations Security Council Resolutions 1 to 100 (1946 – 1953)
• United Nations Security Council Resolution 91
• United Nations Security Council Resolution 96

References[edit]

• Text of the Resolution at undocs.org

Wikisource has original text related to this article:
United Nations Security Council Resolution 98
v

• t

• e

United Nations Security Council resolutions adopted in 1952

• ← 97
• →

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_98

This 1952 UNSC resolution 98 supersedes the 1948 UNSC resolution that Indians love to quote.

hey kid, only The United Nations Security Council Resolution 47 was accepted by India

the so called Resolution 98 was proposed and both the countries were to respond within 30 days.. India is not party of Resolution 98, hence you can use that piece of paper as tissue paper if you wish

 

[HRK]

Usually I have come across Indians who keep saying "Pakistan needs to remove troops from Kashmir" bullshit.
@Indus Pakistan
@waz
@HRK
@AgNoStiC MuSliM


But this 1952 UNSC resolution 98 modifies this condition.

United Nations Security Council Resolution 98
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Jump to navigationJump to search
UN Security Council
Resolution 98
Date December 23 1952
Meeting no. 611
Code S/2883 (Document)
Subject The India-Pakistan Question
Voting summary
9 voted for
None voted against
1 abstained
1 present not voting
Result Adopted
Security Council composition
Permanent members

• 
  China
• 
  France
• 
  United Kingdom
• 
  United States
• 
  Soviet Union

Non-permanentmembers

• 
  Brazil
• 
  Chile
• 
  Greece
• 
  Netherlands
• 
  Pakistan
• 
  Turkey

United Nations Security Council Resolution 98, adopted on December 23, 1952, urged the Governments of India and Pakistan to enter into immediate negotiations under the auspices of the United Nations Representative for India and Pakistan in order to reach an agreement on the specific number of troops to remain of each side of the cease-fire line at the end of the previously established period of demilitarization. As proposed by the UN Representative this number was to be between 6000 Azad forces and 3500 Gilgit and northern scouts on the Pakistani side and 18000 Indian forces and 6000 local state forces on the Indian side.[1] The resolution then thanked the UN Representative for his efforts, requested the Governments of India and Pakistan report to the Council no later than 30 days after the adoption of this resolution and asked the UN Representative to keep the Council informed of any progress.

The resolution was adopted by nine votes to none. The Soviet Union abstained and Pakistan did not participate in the voting.

See also[edit]

• List of United Nations Security Council Resolutions 1 to 100 (1946 – 1953)
• United Nations Security Council Resolution 91
• United Nations Security Council Resolution 96

References[edit]

• Text of the Resolution at undocs.org

Wikisource has original text related to this article:
United Nations Security Council Resolution 98
v

• t

• e

United Nations Security Council resolutions adopted in 1952

• ← 97
• →

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_Resolution_98

This 1952 UNSC resolution 98 supersedes the 1948 UNSC resolution that Indians love to quote.

I have already number of times debated the issue on various thread related to Kashmir and answered all of the arguments Indian members have posted ..... I find no new argument from their side which worth reply

Therefore I would request you to plz consider my understanding of matter same as it was previously
Regards

 

[Lincoln]

hey kid, only The United Nations Security Council Resolution 47 was accepted by India

the so called Resolution 98 was proposed and both the countries were to respond within 30 days.. India is not party of Resolution 98, hence you can use that piece of paper as tissue paper if you wish

Even according to the Resolution 47, none of this was to take place until there was a truce agreement between the countries in place, which is why a commission was sent in the first place, to mediate a truce agreement, but their were reservations and objections from both sides coming to an agreement.

So, the withdrawal of Pakistani forces wasn't an unconditional demand.

 

[Osiris]

United Nations Security Council Resolution 98, adopted on December 23, 1952, urged the Governments of India and Pakistan to enter into immediate negotiations under the auspices of the United Nations Representative for India and Pakistan in order to reach an agreement on the specific number of troops to remain of each side of the cease-fire line at the end of the previously established period of demilitarization. As proposed by the UN Representative this number was to be between 6000 Azad forces and 3500 Gilgit and northern scouts on the Pakistani side and 18000 Indian forces and 6000 local state forces on the Indian side.[1] The resolution then thanked the UN Representative for his efforts, requested the Governments of India and Pakistan report to the Council no later than 30 days after the adoption of this resolution and asked the UN Representative to keep the Council informed of any progress.

The resolution was adopted by nine votes to none. The Soviet Union abstained and Pakistan did not participate in the voting.

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Read properly, Azad Kashmir forces and Gilgit scouts are not considered Pakistani by UN. UN precondition was all Pakistani troops have to leave. Have they left yet?