Urgent- India's argument on Kashmir -crux of Kashmir debate

[Corona]

both countries should free the kashmir and make it a separate free country case will be closed once forever

An isolated, landlocked country with overwhelmingly mountainous terrain, no industries, wedged between two hostile countries?
It's gonna have to lean one way or another and when it does, it's open season.

 

[Imran Khan]

An isolated, landlocked country with overwhelmingly mountainous terrain, no industries, wedged between two hostile countries?
It's gonna have to lean one way or another and when it does, it's open season.

This should not be our problem we are struck because of them

 

[Lasit Borphukan]

An isolated, landlocked country with overwhelmingly mountainous terrain, no industries, wedged between two hostile countries?
It's gonna have to lean one way or another and when it does, it's open season.

how can south kashmir be an independent country? very strange proposition... do the kashmiris want to have a nation just to have their doses of noon tea ?

 

[Lincoln]

how can south kashmir be an independent country? very strange proposition... do the kashmiris want to have a nation just to have their doses of noon tea ?

That is not for you, an Indian to decide, that is for them to decide and the prevention of their right to self determination is exactly why India doesn't enjoy popularity in Kashmir.

 

[MultaniGuy]

hey retard, its clearly written Article 10 and 14 of the UN Charter. Go and read it before spreading filth

Idiot, there are some members here saying that there is no official document to support your claim of the nonbinding aspect of the resolutions.

You are quoting random crap, "article this or article that."

Show me where it says the UNSC resolutions are not binding. You retard.

Anyways @HRK sorry to put this burden on you, but can you show how the UNSC resolutions are not binding.

I know this is asking too much of you, but just show it on this thread because I do not know the details or nuances.


And about the nonsense "Pakistan has to remove troops from its side of Kashmir."

In these documents it shows Pakistan can put troops on its side of Kashmir.

Something to do with Khambri bai pass.

 

[HRK]

Anyways @HRK sorry to put this burden on you, but can you show how the UNSC resolutions are not binding.

there is nothing is my knowledge which can prove that UN resolution are not binding, only deference in Chapter VI (link) and Chapter VII (link) UN charter is that under chapter VI UN prefer the use of negotiation, mediation, or other peaceful method but here article 36 of this chapter is very important specially the clause-2 [stated below] expand the scope of this chapter to other methods and give power to security council to consider and recommend terms of settlements which may fall under other chapters of UN charter

Article 37

1. Should the parties to a dispute of the nature referred to in Article 33 fail to settle it by the means indicated in that Article, they shall refer it to the Security Council.
2. If the Security Council deems that the continuance of the dispute is in fact likely to endanger the maintenance of international peace and security, it shall decide whether to take action under Article 36 or to recommend such terms of settlement as it may consider appropriate.

Plz note here the opening Article of Chapter VII Article-39 [stated below] is also align with Article-37 of Chapter VI but for this security council recommendation would be required

Article 39

The Security Council shall determine the existence of any threat to the peace, breach of the peace, or act of aggression and shall make recommendations, or decide what measures shall be taken in accordance with Articles 41 and 42, to maintain or restore international peace and security.

 

[Lasit Borphukan]

That is not for you, an Indian to decide, that is for them to decide and the prevention of their right to self determination is exactly why India doesn't enjoy popularity in Kashmir.

yes you are absolutely correct.. we have given them all the rights to decide that. but unfortunately they are slightly slow to decide and just took 70+ years ... i am hoping that they will decide within the next 100 odd years for themselves

 

[MultaniGuy]

there is nothing is my knowledge which can prove that UN resolution are not binding, only deference in Chapter VI (link) and Chapter VII (link) UN charter is that under chapter VI UN prefer the use of negotiation, mediation, or other peaceful method but here article 36 of this chapter is very important specially the clause-2 [stated below] expand the scope of this chapter to other methods and give power to security council to consider and recommend terms of settlements which may fall under other chapters of UN charter

Plz note here the opening Article of Chapter VII Article-39 [stated below] is also align with Article-37 of Chapter VI but for this security council recommendation would be required

Can you please put this in simpler words for me to understand.

Thanks,

Regards.

baseless Indian point of views for which not a single official source or document is ever shared to support it .....

I thought you said there is no Indian point of view or document which can prove the UNSC documents are not binding. Or am I misunderstanding you.

I am not knowledgeable about the UNSC being binding or not binding though.

Thats the problem when you have partial knowledge.

There is a lot of misunderstandings or misinterpretations of the UNSC resolutions on Kashmir.

Thanks,

Regards.

 

[HRK]

Can you please put this in simpler words for me to understand.

Thanks,

Regards.


I thought you said there is no Indian point of view or document which can prove the UNSC documents are not binding. Or am I misunderstanding you.

I am not knowledgeable about the UNSC being binding or not binding though.

Thats the problem when you have partial knowledge.

There is a lot of misunderstandings or misinterpretations of the UNSC resolutions on Kashmir.

Thanks,

Regards.

- Indian falsely propagate that UN resolutions are not binding
- Chapter VI of UN charter under which Kashmir resolution were passed deal with settlement of disputes in pacific manner like negotiation and mediation others.
- But If all pacific efforts to resolve the dispute peacefully fail and Security council feels that disputes may endanger the international peace and security then can recommend measures which it seems appropriate for the settlement of disputes

 

[MultaniGuy]

- Indian falsely propagate that UN resolutions are not binding
- Chapter VI of UN charter under which Kashmir resolution were passed deal with settlement of disputes in pacific manner like negotiation and mediation others.
- But If all pacific efforts to resolve the dispute peacefully fail and Security council feels that disputes may endanger the international peace and security then can recommend measures which it seems appropriate for the settlement of disputes

Thank you as I was a little ignorant about this.

Yes you have answered my query.

Thanks again.

 

[That Guy]

Thanks,

no point in responding to those Indiots, because they are barking garbage as usual.

1952 UNSC resolution 98 modifies the condition for troop levels in Kashmir region for both Pakistan and Republic of India.

@That Guy
Your views are required here.

Count me out. I'm sick to death of repeating myself in different threads, because certain people won't listen.

Thanks for the tag, but I'm going to stay out of this.