Urdu not on PMO’s website, is it another attempt to do away with anything Muslim

[SQ8]

All this for a language option on a website..

Just a growing trend that does have people worried quote rightly.

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Not a false flag.

 

[MilSpec]

Just a growing trend that does have people worried quote rightly.


Not a false flag.

I reported language, not nationality.

 

[SQ8]

I reported language, not nationality.

Language one has been deleted.

 

[Roybot]

Just because "90% of your muslim friends" barely can read/write urdu, you assume that the rest of the state stands on the same line. As per Urdu census data 2011, UP has 38 crore Urdu speakers. Bhai tujhse yeh umeed nahi thi, I've always believed you to be a rational speaker, please don't let me down...


Well I will be waiting for that logical explanation....

You have to understand the difference between an Urdu speaker and someone who can read and write Urdu. Technically everyone in Bollywood is an Urdu speaker, but how many of them can read/write Urdu? Technically even I am an Urdu speaker!

I used the example of my Muslim friends, cause they can be taken as a random sample. They are all from the Lucknow/Rohillakhand region, Urdu heartland. They have all studied Urdu as a subject at school, almost all of them have been taught Quran by a Hafeez, yet they can barely read/write Urdu or Arabic.

I know this because couple of years back I had to get a Urdu document translated. Naturally, I asked my friends for help, but none of them could do it. I eventually found a teacher in a Madrassa who was able to translate it for me.

 

[The_Showstopper]

You have to understand the difference between an Urdu speaker and someone who can read and write Urdu.

Let me tell you, most of those whom you claim to be just Urdu speakers(but are devoid of reading/writing skills) are those whose mother tongue is Urdu and receive education in English medium. So they do speak urdu because of family background but devoid of writing/reading skills. But there are also those who receive Urdu medium education and those who receive Urdu classes along with Arabic while studying in English medium schools.

Technically everyone in Bollywood is an Urdu speaker, but how many of them can read/write Urdu? Technically even I am an Urdu speaker!

No, Bollywood uses a typical mixture of Urdu and Hindi language which can be called as Hindustani language, so you can't term yourself as Urdu speaker. This is what Urdu looks like and I am sure this is not how you or Bollywood speaks

I used the example of my Muslim friends, cause they can be taken as a random sample. They are all from the Lucknow/Rohillakhand region, Urdu heartland. They have all studied Urdu as a subject at school, almost all of them have been taught Quran by a Hafeez, yet they can barely read/write Urdu or Arabic.

So are you telling me that they studied Urdu as a subject yet don't know how to read and write in Urdu, That is strange since they will be taught how to read/write Urdu alphabets, words and sentences (I studied Telugu language and I am not just able to speak but also read and write). Quran is taught in Arabic but not spoken as a language to communicate but Urdu is, I and many who can read Arabic can write in Arabic but can't understand Arabic terms since we haven't learnt what each of those terms meant.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

Earlier this year, Honorable Prime Minister Narendra Modi decided that the PMO website , www.pmindia.gov.in should be made multilingual in order to effectively highlight various initiatives of the government.

Previously it was available only in English and Hindi. In May 2016, Minister of External Affairs, Sushma Swaraj launched 6 language versions of PMO


India’s website viz. in six major regional languages, including Gujarati, Marathi, Malayalam and Bengali. Sushma also announced that government will launch the PM’s official website in other regional languages also in a phased manner.


If checked the recent updates, there are Kannada, Oriya, Punjabi, Tamil and Telugu also in the language drop down.

Right after the NDA government regained power in 2014, the PMO is seen to be doing away with many issues related to minority community.

The present RSS-backed government is known to be staunch and hardliner, if one goes by general belief.

According to the census 2001, Urdu is the sixth most spoken language of India. Urdu speakers, mostly Muslims constitute 5.01% of the population, surpass those speaking Gujarati, Kannada, Malayalam, Oriya and Punjabi languages.

Now the questions that arise in mind are; Is it deliberate to ignore Urdu? Does the central government want Urdu speakers to be barred from benefits of government resolutions and schemes and official information etc?

If we look for a possible logical reason of this delay, we fail to find one but a deliberate act of injustice. Because, in a phased and planned development, one usually tends to give priority by looking at statistics. And, going by the sheer number of Urdu speakers, Urdu ought to have found a place on PMO’s website.

In the democratic land of India, let’s all just hope that people in power refrain from targeting few of their own citizens.

Editor’s note: Janta Ka Reporter made several attempts to contact the PMO for their reaction on the above story, but they remained unavailable for comments.

Good move. Better to promote local scripts as far as possible. They can translate to Urdu using Devnagari or Pali scripts etc. and use it on the website.

I know this because couple of years back I had to get a Urdu document translated. Naturally, I asked my friends for help, but none of them could do it. I eventually found a teacher in a Madrassa who was able to translate it for me.

It is essential to use a native script for Urdu. The Nastaleeq makes it difficult for a vast majority of Indians who understand and can speak Urdu to read it.
Any of the Indic scripts can be used. Even the Roman script can also be used. Like Hinglish.

 

[ranjeet]

As per Urdu census data 2011, UP has 38 crore Urdu speakers. Bhai tujhse yeh umeed nahi thi, I've always believed you to be a rational speaker, please don't let me down...


Well I will be waiting for that logical explanation....

Entire population of UP was little less than 20 crore according to 2011 census. I wonder where did you get the figure of 38 crore urdu speakers in UP in 2011?

 

[The_Showstopper]

Entire population of UP was little less than 20 crore according to 2011 census. I wonder where did you get the figure of 38 crore urdu speakers in UP in 2011?

My Bad, it is 38,272,080 (3.8 crores). Thank you for bringing it up...

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/States_of_India_by_Urdu_speakers

 

[ShoutB]

Even Bhojpuri, Meithali, Brijbhasa, Kangri are not .. so?

huh! Urdu ..

 

[Roybot]

Let me tell you, most of those whom you claim to be just Urdu speakers(but are devoid of reading/writing skills) are those whose mother tongue is Urdu and receive education in English medium. So they do speak urdu because of family background but devoid of writing/reading skills. But there are also those who receive Urdu medium education and those who receive Urdu classes along with Arabic while studying in English medium schools.


No, Bollywood uses a typical mixture of Urdu and Hindi language which can be called as Hindustani language, so you can't term yourself as Urdu speaker. This is what Urdu looks like and I am sure this is not how you or Bollywood speaks

"Best Urdu Speech" is not the best example of what average Urdu sounds like, just like a speech in shuddh Hindi is not the best example of what an average Hindi speaker sounds like. And even then let me tell you that I understood about 90% of what that girl was saying!

So are you telling me that they studied Urdu as a subject yet don't know how to read and write in Urdu, That is strange since they will be taught how to read/write Urdu alphabets, words and sentences (I studied Telugu language and I am not just able to speak but also read and write). Quran is taught in Arabic but not spoken as a language to communicate but Urdu is, I and many who can read Arabic can write in Arabic but can't understand Arabic terms since we haven't learnt what each of those terms meant.

Yes they studied Urdu at school for 5 years, we had the option of studying Sanskrit/Urdu/Foreign Language. They obviously remember the aliph ae be te, but they don't know remember enough to do anything useful with it, like translate an Urdu document. If you don't use something on a regular basis, you tend to forget it.

Can you read/write Urdu?

 

[Kaniska]

Urdu is a major language spoken by 15% of Indians.

How can you ignore it?

What is Bollywood without Urdu input.



There are 880 Indian languages in India.
We do not expect PM to use them all.
But major languages yes. One of which is Urdu.

Now on derogatory remarks: First tell your Modi to stop following abusive Twitter IDs as a PM of big nation as India.
Japanese, Chinese, US, UK or Canada, none of their PM indulges into such nefarious activities publicly.
1/3rd of his ministers are criminally tainted. Why did he induct them?
I have no respect for such a PM.

Right now your accusation is untenable.

Why do you think that a language should be considered by PMO based on the number of people use it.

 

[Butchcassidy]

Urdu humne pakistan ko udhar pe de hai.
Jab wapas aa jayaegi to laga denge
Hun lassi pe te thand rakh

 

[ashok321]

Why do you think that a language should be considered by PMO based on the number of people use it.

What is the PMO criteria then on this?
Do you know of any factor?

 

[takeiteasy]

Urdu is such a nice language. Why did they corrupted it with Sanskrit to make it look pro-Hindu? Hard to crack Sanskrit words desecrated Hindustani or Urdu.

This party coming back to power is not good for India. I hope BJP and RSS ends by forthcoming Loksabha elections. If not, time for minorities to face violence and genocide. The RSS fan club will be also happy to see Infidels-mukth India.

 

[911]

Urdu is a great language but there are many more languages spoken by total 13% population not used on that website. Why make an issue out of nothing? If you are genuinely concerned then contact them.

Urdu is such a nice language. Why did they corrupted it with Sanskrit to make it look pro-Hindu? Hard to crack Sanskrit words desecrated Hindustani or Urdu.

This party coming back to power is not good for India. I hope BJP and RSS ends by forthcoming Loksabha elections. If not, time for minorities to face violence and genocide. The RSS fan club will be also happy to see Infidels-mukth India.

Social issues are present before 2014, including Hindi-Urdu controversy. Your hate is not justified even if you belong to minority.