U.S. Gives Boeing, Airbus Go-Ahead to Send Airliners to Iran

[mike2000 is back]

Lol Airbus needs permission from US to export to Iran.

Yes, Boeing will need permission from European powers as well if we imposed sanctions on a country since several Boeing's parts are also made by European powers. see below

Boeing, I understand.
But why Airbus.
Why would US need to give permission to a french company?

Says alot about who owns europe now. :d

Using your logic, Pakistan and bengladesh are owned by the U.S, China, France etc. Since all your stuffs comes from these countries lol

Anyway, it's all about comparative advantage/competitiveness genius. Doesn't means European power can't make every components on Airbus . Each country/power usually have its comparative advantage in some sectors relative to other.
We make parts for Boeing and Boeing also makes part for Europe's Airbus

So we can also impose sanctions against Boeing exporting it's aircrafts made of European components as well if we wanted to. However there is no reason for European powers to do that.

Bro, you high? Half a century ahead?
As for the west, you seem to greatly overestimate your developed status. Maybe you should go visit Iran and then maybe you'll see reality. Iran is indeed behind the west, but obviously you know little about Iran and you overestimate that gap. Don't rely too much on your BBC.

Yes, for example Iran will need at least half a century to build a Russian fighter jet like SU-27 WHICH WAS BUILT decades ago. I'm not even talking about new more advanced ones like SU-35, and western fighters like Typhoons, Rafale,F-18,etc.
Note that I'm talking about countries who can design and build their own defence systems without any reverse engineering/taking designs based on other countries platforms.

I'm not saying Iran is not advanced. Yes compared to other Muslim countries you are indeed. But your leaders should be more pragmatic. You are nowhere near challenging the West. Follow your interests and cooperate when needed, while keeping rhetoric on the back burner. You can use it to gain influence and popularity in the middle East though. But you shouldn't take it too seriously.

 

[Rukarl]

Yes, for example Iran will need at least half a century to build a Russian fighter jet like SU-27 WHICH WAS BUILT decades ago. I'm not even talking about new more advanced ones like SU-35, and western fighters like Typhoons, Rafale,F-18,etc.
Note that I'm talking about countries who can design and build their own defence systems without any reverse engineering/taking designs based on other countries platforms.

I'm not saying Iran is not advanced. Yes compared to other Muslim countries you are indeed. But your leaders should be more pragmatic. You are nowhere near challenging the West. Follow your interests and cooperate when needed, while keeping rhetoric on the back burner. You can use it to gain influence and popularity in the middle East though. But you shouldn't take it too seriously.

As I said bro, you have very little info about Iran. Very little. You think Iran needs 50 years to developed a su-27? @VEVAK what on earth are you talking about bro? Just because Iran has not yet poured the necessary budget to make such a thing, it does NOT mean it is incapable of making such a thing. It's just easier for Iran purchase lets say su-30 in next 5 years years. But if Iran invests, Iran will able to make a decent fighter by 2025-2030. It has already taken steps to do so. Go look at Iran's jet engine thread for example.

Yes, Iran used to reverse engineer, all nations did that. But why don't you talk about the fact Iran today is one of the few nations in the world to have designed multiple long range air defences? It is one of 2 nations to posses anti ship ballistic missile and the only nation to have an anti-radiation ballistic missile. I could go on!

Iran is behind relative to the Europeans but you really need to be reasonable and not make claims like 50 years behind China etc. Iran is much less behind than you think. Don't overestimate yourself and underestimate the other side. That's just hubris. If you're truly interested, go give Iran a visit and see with your own eyes. They won't eat you in Iran!

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

I don't think Airbus needs anyone's permission

Plus why would anyone have objection , Iran did not have nuclear weapon like North Korea

 

[VEVAK]

As I said bro, you have very little info about Iran. Very little. You think Iran needs 50 years to developed a su-27? @VEVAK what on earth are you talking about bro? Just because Iran has not yet poured the necessary budget to make such a thing, it does NOT mean it is incapable of making such a thing. It's just easier for Iran purchase lets say su-30 in next 5 years years. But if Iran invests, Iran will able to make a decent fighter by 2025-2030. It has already taken steps to do so. Go look at Iran's jet engine thread for example.

Yes, Iran used to reverse engineer, all nations did that. But why don't you talk about the fact Iran today is one of the few nations in the world to have designed multiple long range air defences? It is one of 2 nations to posses anti ship ballistic missile and the only nation to have an anti-radiation ballistic missile. I could go on!

Iran is behind relative to the Europeans but you really need to be reasonable and not make claims like 50 years behind China etc. Iran is much less behind than you think. Don't overestimate yourself and underestimate the other side. That's just hubris. If you're truly interested, go give Iran a visit and see with your own eyes. They won't eat you in Iran!

IDK what you taking about!!

Iran can build a prototype Air Frame as capable as the F-15 within a year IF they invests in it!

Problem is they don't wanna invest in it!!! They don't wanna spend the money!!! Every fighter design they have researched and done R&D on has been on light fighters with low titanium requirements.
It all goes back to money with them and they don't wanna spend it! Iran has no need for light fighters the only type of fighters Iran truly needs are interceptors and air superiority fighters

In terms of Radars & BVR capability Iran can easily produce an upgraded version of the AWG-9 with a greater processing power and a more advanced antenna with a upgraded version of the Phoenix missile. Which means the aircrafts BVR capability will be greater then an F-14A but it will have to be a large fighter capable of caring both the radar and the missile

In terms of IRST Iran can also produce a more capable version of the IRST by reverse engineering and upgrading the ones they have on the MiG-29's

BUT Iran will not be able to produce an Turbofan Engine, Radar, datalink, weapons system as advanced as the ones on the Su-30 in the next 10 years!

Also since Iran has not developed the infrastructure to manufacture large fighters it will cost Iran a lot more to build 150 Iranian interceptors than to buy 150 Su-30 in the next 5-10 years

I personally would rather have them build our own BUT right now they need Air Superiority fighters quicker than they can build them If Russia accepts co-production this will allow Iran to at least build most of the facilities and tool required

If 6 years ago Iran had invested $5 Billion a year in the production of an advanced Iranian interceptor/Air superiority fighter today we wouldn't be having this discussion the problems is they didn't do it then and they still don't wanna do it now and that's the type of investment you need when you haven't yet built the infrastructure but once you build it future fighters wont cost as much especially if the infrastructure is made initially for mass production of a large fighter.... if your vacuum furnace is large enough for an F-22 if tomorrow you wanna build a single engine version you can use the same furnace....

And in terms of Super alloys Iran has the problems of companies (corrupt people) wanting fast cash by exporting it... we even have this problem in simple heavy water pipes building.... government needs to ban the export of strategic alloys all together!!! We are being robbed for easy cash!!!

go 1:50 m into the video

 

[Rukarl]

IDK what you taking about!!

Iran can build a prototype Air Frame as capable as the F-15 within a year IF they invests in it!

Problem is they don't wanna invest in it!!! They don't wanna spend the money!!! Every fighter design they have researched and done R&D on has been on light fighters with low titanium requirements.
It all goes back to money with them and they don't wanna spend it! Iran has no need for light fighters the only type of fighters Iran truly needs are interceptors and air superiority fighters

In terms of Radars & BVR capability Iran can easily produce an upgraded version of the AWG-9 with a greater processing power and a more advanced antenna with a upgraded version of the Phoenix missile. Which means the aircrafts BVR capability will be greater then an F-14A but it will have to be a large fighter capable of caring both the radar and the missile

In terms of IRST Iran can also produce a more capable version of the IRST by reverse engineering and upgrading the ones they have on the MiG-29's

BUT Iran will not be able to produce an Turbofan Engine, Radar, datalink, weapons system as advanced as the ones on the Su-30 in the next 10 years!

Also since Iran has not developed the infrastructure to manufacture large fighters it will cost Iran a lot more to build 150 Iranian interceptors than to buy 150 Su-30 in the next 5-10 years

I personally would rather have them build our own BUT right now they need Air Superiority fighters quicker than they can build them If Russia accepts co-production this will allow Iran to at least build most of the facilities and tool required

If 6 years ago Iran had invested $5 Billion a year in the production of an advanced Iranian interceptor/Air superiority fighter today we wouldn't be having this discussion the problems is they didn't do it then and they still don't wanna do it now and that's the type of investment you need when you haven't yet built the infrastructure but once you build it future fighters wont cost as much especially if the infrastructure is made initially for mass production of a large fighter.... if your vacuum furnace is large enough for an F-22 if tomorrow you wanna build a single engine version you can use the same furnace....

And in terms of Super alloys Iran has the problems of companies (corrupt people) wanting fast cash by exporting it... we even have this problem in simple heavy water pipes building.... government needs to ban the export of strategic alloys all together!!! We are being robbed for easy cash!!!

go 1:50 m into the video

I know all this. I tagged you so you could explain to the user mike how misinformed he is given his claims. 50 years to produce a su-27

 

[Vincent Alvares]

Yes, Boeing will need permission from European powers as well if we imposed sanctions on a country since several Boeing's parts are also made by European powers. see below



Using your logic, Pakistan and bengladesh are owned by the U.S, China, France etc. Since all your stuffs comes from these countries lol

Anyway, it's all about comparative advantage/competitiveness genius. Doesn't means European power can't make every components on Airbus . Each country/power usually have its comparative advantage in some sectors relative to other.
We make parts for Boeing and Boeing also makes part for Europe's Airbus

So we can also impose sanctions against Boeing exporting it's aircrafts made of European components as well if we wanted to. However there is no reason for European powers to do that.



Yes, for example Iran will need at least half a century to build a Russian fighter jet like SU-27 WHICH WAS BUILT decades ago. I'm not even talking about new more advanced ones like SU-35, and western fighters like Typhoons, Rafale,F-18,etc.
Note that I'm talking about countries who can design and build their own defence systems without any reverse engineering/taking designs based on other countries platforms.

I'm not saying Iran is not advanced. Yes compared to other Muslim countries you are indeed. But your leaders should be more pragmatic. You are nowhere near challenging the West. Follow your interests and cooperate when needed, while keeping rhetoric on the back burner. You can use it to gain influence and popularity in the middle East though. But you shouldn't take it too seriously.

Why are you claiming things as if all of West is one single organism! By Western Advance Tech. don't you mean 90% US made? Can UK make a decent Space Launch System? a decent Electric car? 5th Gen. fighter? on it's own?...how long do you think it would take? I know many European countries that can't even make a decent Car let alone ...anything advance!
Everyone's behind US in one way or other..some are 5 years some are 100. As you've been stating, whole of Europe can't even make an advance Passenger Plane on it's own...hence,need permission from your Boss.

Why are you claiming things as if all of West is one single organism! By Western Advance Tech. don't you mean 90% US made? Can UK make a decent Space Launch System? a decent Electric car? 5th Gen. fighter? on it's own?...how long do you think it would take? I know many European countries that can't even make a decent Car let alone ...anything advance!
Everyone's behind US in one way or other..some are 5 years some are 100. As you've been stating, whole of Europe can't even make an advance Passenger Plane on it's own...hence,need permission from your Boss.

Edit: in fact Iran is way ahead of many Western Countries(not just Muslim dominated ones) in many sectors despite being under sanction for last 35 years.You have to give it to them.And regarding their differences with West..well can you really blame them?

 

[AmirPatriot]

don't you mean 90% US made? Can UK make a decent Space Launch System? a decent Electric car? 5th Gen. fighter? on it's own?...how long do you think it would take? I know many European countries that can't even make a decent Car let alone ...anything advance!
Everyone's behind US in one way or other..some are 5 years some are 100. As you've been stating, whole of Europe can't even make an advance Passenger Plane on it's own...hence,need permission from your Boss.

Don't make me laugh. Nobody makes 100% of anything domestically anymore. You think Boeing uses 100% US made parts? The only reason they don't need permission from Europe is because Europe are slaves politically to the US.

And I'll have you know, Europe makes the best cars.

As for SLVs...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Arrow

But then again, Iran takes its anti western propaganda stance too far. You are basically calling for no cooperation whatsoever meanwhile you are nowhere near developed enough to challenge the West. Even Russia and China who are over half a century ahead of you , yet they have to cooperate with the west when needed.

Iran should come out from its empty Islamic propaganda rhetoric against the west. serves no purpose to be honest.


But then again, Iran takes its anti western propaganda stance too far. You are basically calling for no cooperation whatsoever meanwhile you are nowhere near developed enough to challenge the West. Even Russia and China who are over half a century ahead of you , yet they have to cooperate with the west when needed.

Iran should come out from its empty Islamic propaganda rhetoric against the west. serves no purpose to be honest.


But then again, Iran takes its anti western propaganda stance too far. You are basically calling for no cooperation whatsoever meanwhile you are nowhere near developed enough to challenge the West. Even Russia and China who are over half a century ahead of you , yet they have to cooperate with the west when needed.

Iran should come out from its empty Islamic propaganda rhetoric against the west. serves no purpose to be honest.

I'm not particularly supportive of the rhetoric we use, but stopping rhetoric alone won't do shit. Even if Iran changed the "death to America" chant tomorrow to "love to America", exactly jack shit would happen because Iran is still opposed to western exploitative interests in the region. The only reason China gets cooperation is because they have a HUGE economy and a HUGE population. So western companies are desperate to tap that market.

Iran doesn't have any of these. The only way Iran could get cooperation is by kissing *** in a big way, and we don't want to do that.

And what do you mean by challenge the west? Challenge the west how? Politically? Militarily? We're doing it right now. And if you mean scientifically, we're getting there.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn20291-iran-is-top-of-the-world-in-science-growth/

 

[Vincent Alvares]

Don't make me laugh. Nobody makes 100% of anything domestically anymore. You think Boeing uses 100% US made parts? The only reason they don't need permission from Europe is because Europe are slaves politically to the US.

And I'll have you know, Europe makes the best cars.

As for SLVs...





I'm not particularly supportive of the rhetoric we use, but stopping rhetoric alone won't do shit. Even if Iran changed the "death to America" chant tomorrow to "love to America", exactly jack shit would happen because Iran is still opposed to western exploitative interests in the region. The only reason China gets cooperation is because they have a HUGE economy and a HUGE population. So western companies are desperate to tap that market.

Iran doesn't have any of these. The only way Iran could get cooperation is by kissing *** in a big way, and we don't want to do that.

And what do you mean by challenge the west? Challenge the west how? Politically? Militarily? We're doing it right now. And if you mean scientifically, we're getting there.

Do you have any references of what foreign parts Boeing use? Most of US tactical weapons are 100% US made. There's a reason they don't sell F-22s. Regarding Cars...only 2-3 European countries make good cars. Who make best Cars?That's debatable, right now,IMO, it's Tesla.Again,like Mr.Mike, you're imagining Europe as a single Organism.Everything looks great under Industrial Power of Germany & France. And Black arrow had only one successful launch out 4....my point was a decent SLS. Even N.Korea's putting their Sats on Orbit now-a-days.
There's US tech..then there's rest of the world. Whole developed West concept is nothing but a Myth. Take out US made stuff from rest of the so called WEST...it's doesn't look so advance now,does it?

Do you have any references of what foreign parts Boeing use? Most of US tactical weapons are 100% US made. There's a reason they don't sell F-22s. Regarding Cars...only 2-3 European countries make good cars. Who make best Cars?That's debatable, right now,IMO, it's Tesla.Again,like Mr.Mike, you're imagining Europe as a single Organism.Everything looks great under Industrial Power of Germany & France. And Black arrow had only one successful launch out 4....my point was a decent SLS. Even N.Korea's putting their Sats on Orbit now-a-days.
There's US tech..then there's rest of the world. Whole developed West concept is nothing but a Myth. Take out US made stuff from rest of the so called WEST...it's doesn't look so advance now,does it?

And why do you think Brexit happened? UK know it missed the train.

 

[mike2000 is back]

IDK what you taking about!!

Iran can build a prototype Air Frame as capable as the F-15 within a year IF they invests in it!

Problem is they don't wanna invest in it!!! They don't wanna spend the money!!! Every fighter design they have researched and done R&D on has been on light fighters with low titanium requirements.
It all goes back to money with them and they don't wanna spend it! Iran has no need for light fighters the only type of fighters Iran truly needs are interceptors and air superiority fighters

In terms of Radars & BVR capability Iran can easily produce an upgraded version of the AWG-9 with a greater processing power and a more advanced antenna with a upgraded version of the Phoenix missile. Which means the aircrafts BVR capability will be greater then an F-14A but it will have to be a large fighter capable of caring both the radar and the missile

In terms of IRST Iran can also produce a more capable version of the IRST by reverse engineering and upgrading the ones they have on the MiG-29's

BUT Iran will not be able to produce an Turbofan Engine, Radar, datalink, weapons system as advanced as the ones on the Su-30 in the next 10 years!

Also since Iran has not developed the infrastructure to manufacture large fighters it will cost Iran a lot more to build 150 Iranian interceptors than to buy 150 Su-30 in the next 5-10 years

I personally would rather have them build our own BUT right now they need Air Superiority fighters quicker than they can build them If Russia accepts co-production this will allow Iran to at least build most of the facilities and tool required

If 6 years ago Iran had invested $5 Billion a year in the production of an advanced Iranian interceptor/Air superiority fighter today we wouldn't be having this discussion the problems is they didn't do it then and they still don't wanna do it now and that's the type of investment you need when you haven't yet built the infrastructure but once you build it future fighters wont cost as much especially if the infrastructure is made initially for mass production of a large fighter.... if your vacuum furnace is large enough for an F-22 if tomorrow you wanna build a single engine version you can use the same furnace....

And in terms of Super alloys Iran has the problems of companies (corrupt people) wanting fast cash by exporting it... we even have this problem in simple heavy water pipes building.... government needs to ban the export of strategic alloys all together!!! We are being robbed for easy cash!!!

go 1:50 m into the video

Why are you claiming things as if all of West is one single organism! By Western Advance Tech. don't you mean 90% US made? Can UK make a decent Space Launch System? a decent Electric car? 5th Gen. fighter? on it's own?...how long do you think it would take? I know many European countries that can't even make a decent Car let alone ...anything advance!
Everyone's behind US in one way or other..some are 5 years some are 100. As you've been stating, whole of Europe can't even make an advance Passenger Plane on it's own...hence,need permission from your Boss.


Edit: in fact Iran is way ahead of many Western Countries(not just Muslim dominated ones) in many sectors despite being under sanction for last 35 years.You have to give it to them.And regarding their differences with West..well can you really blame them?

Why are you claiming things as if all of West is one single organism! By Western Advance Tech. don't you mean 90% US made? Can UK make a decent Space Launch System? a decent Electric car? 5th Gen. fighter? on it's own?...how long do you think it would take? I know many European countries that can't even make a decent Car let alone ...anything advance!
Everyone's behind US in one way or other..some are 5 years some are 100. As you've been stating, whole of Europe can't even make an advance Passenger Plane on it's own...hence,need permission from your Boss.


Edit: in fact Iran is way ahead of many Western Countries(not just Muslim dominated ones) in many sectors despite being under sanction for last 35 years.You have to give it to them.And regarding their differences with West..well can you really blame them?

European countries can't make a decent car?
You have definitely not been in a Rolls Royce, Bentley, Aston Matin, Mini, Ferrari, Audi, BMW, Volkswagen, Porsche, Lamborghini, masserati etc etc
What are you smoking mate?I find it hard to believe someone who lives in a western country can be so misinformed.So I won't even waste my time arguing with you over such a foolish statement. Just displaying your ignorance on a public forum.

As for European countries not being able to produce a passenger plane/fifth generation fighter jet on their own, that's another bullshit statement coming from you.
The fact that some European powers often pool their resources on a massive sophisticated project is due to savings,cost and finances. If we can produce a product together cheaper why do it alone which will be more expensive and less competitive?
So using your logic, Britain brought France on typhoon fighter project way back as we were both in the process of launching this project, France pulled out later due to its own specific requirement's not being met and went on to build it's own Rafale. Using your logic if France had remained part of our Typhoon project that will mean France can't build a fighter jet on its own.lol.
Mate you are confusing competitiveness/spreading costs with capabilities. We don't lack the capabilities to do it on our own. The fact that we have been making fighter jets way before many countries even knew what a fighter jet is prove of that( harrier, mirage, jaguars etc).

Similarly France and Britain built the supersonic concorde passenger plane. Which was (is still) far more advanced than anything any country/power can produce even today(bar the U.S).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concorde
Does that means we were not justified in creating Airbus? Brings economies of scale and reduce costs which is hard for one single country to afford. Still has nothing to do with capabilities. Britain BAE built it's own passenger jets as well. Read more dude. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Aerospace_146

Even fifth generation tech i already had this discussion with another member here. we demonstrated we can do it. It's just financial constraints that holds us back(as we need to justify the huge investments to our welfare social programs obssesed public).

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BAE_Replica

We are currently in the process of building a stealth long range Bomber with France. Based on BAEs Taranis( derived from BAEs Replica tech) and Frances Dassault. Again this stealth bomber when built will be far ahead of anything any power can build this decade(bar the UMS obviously).

BAEs Taranis

Frances European neutron.

Both will be used as test base to develop our joint stealth bomber. depicted as shown

You say Iran more advanced than European powers? Lmao. You are funnier than even Superboy dude. Lol
You need to be more informed before you talk shit.

 

[AmirPatriot]

Do you have any references of what foreign parts Boeing use?

Mike posted it.

Most of US tactical weapons are 100% US made

Lol no.

The LITENING targeting pod is Israeli. The Harrier is a British design used by the US. The M1 Abrams uses a Germann Rheinmetall gun. The M777 artillery piece is British. I think I've made my point.

There's a reason they don't sell F-22

Because its the most advanced fighter aircraft in service today.

only 2-3 European countries make good cars

Sweden, Germany, Italy, France, Britain, Spain. Those are the major ones, if I was nitpicky I would go and find all those small companies that make great cars for specialist customers.

you're imagining Europe as a single Organism

When did I say that? But the EU does bring European countries very close to each other.

my point was a decent SLS

They really don't need to. If they want to launch anything they use the European Ariane SLS. Why would the UK have to make its SLS if it can use the Ariane?

 

[mike2000 is back]

Do you have any references of what what foreign parts Boeing use? Most of US tactical weapons are 100% US made. There's a reason they don't sell F-22s. Regarding Cars...only 2-3 European countries make good cars. Who make best Cars?That's debatable, right now,IMO, it's Tesla.Again,like Mr.Mike, you're imagining Europe as a single Organism.Everything looks great under Industrial Power of Germany & France. And Black arrow had only one successful launch out 4....my point was a decent SLS. Even N.Korea's putting their Sats on Orbit now-a-days.
There's US tech..then there's rest of the world. Whole developed West concept is nothing but a Myth. Take out US made stuff from rest of the so called WEST...it's doesn't look so advance now,does it?


And why do you think Brexit happened? UK know it missed the train.

you don't know what you are talking about . I will advice you to go do some more research before you start taking shit mate and embarrassing yourself publicly.
You say Boeing doesn't use any foreign European parts on its airplane? Even when I already provided an image showing otherwise? Lol
You say all U.S weapons are 100% made by the U.S companies? Lol Another ignorant comment.
Dude all your statements are full of ignorance . I don't usually like sounding harsh. But your ignorance baffles me to be honest.
Using your logic, since many U.S military equipments are built by British companies or they use BRITISH equipments that means the U.S is incapable of building them right?lol
I will just give you ONE SIMPLE EXAMPLE: Even the U.S most sophisticated destroyer runs on our engines. Guess that means they are our puppet. LMAO
Your logic is funny indeed.


As for BREXIT, again don't talkethings you have no knowledge about. You say it's because of we missed the train? Which train dude? This guy is funny @waz

 

[Vincent Alvares]

European countries can't make a decent car?
LOL! I've never said that! here's what I've said..."..only 2-3 European countries make good cars"..

Iran more advanced than European powers?..No...LOL! Again..you are so angry you didn't even read it well! I've said advance than many of the European countries. Last time I checked Europe has more than 40 countries.

Here,let me repost my original comment before you go all ballistic..and shit..
Can UK make a decent Space Launch System? a decent Electric car? 5th Gen. fighter? on it's own?...how long do you think it would take? I know many European countries that can't even make a decent Car let alone ...anything advance!
Everyone's behind US in one way or other..some are 5 years some are 100. As you've been stating, whole of Europe can't even make an advance Passenger Plane on it's own...

And I din't even say anything regarding Boeing supply-chain.I just asked that other guy if he can post any link or anything!

you don't know what you are talking about . I will advice you to go do some more research before you start taking shit mate and embarrassing yourself publicly.
You say Boeing doesn't use any foreign European parts on its airplane? Even when I already provided an image showing otherwise? Lol
You say all U.S weapons are 100% made by the U.S companies? Lol Another ignorant comment.
Dude all your statements are full of ignorance . I don't usually like sounding harsh. But your ignorance baffles me to be honest.
Using your logic, since many U.S military equipments are built by British companies or they use BRITISH equipments that means the U.S is incapable of building them right?lol
I will just give you ONE SIMPLE EXAMPLE: Even the U.S most sophisticated destroyer runs on our engines. Guess that means they are our puppet. LMAO
Your logic is funny indeed.


As for BREXIT, again don't talkethings you have no knowledge about. You say it's because of we missed the train? Which train dude? This guy is funny @waz

Remember,Boeing didn't need your permission to sell those plane...but Airbus? At least Iran can make it's own foreign Policy...but UK?...so called permanent USC member? not so much

you don't know what you are talking about . I will advice you to go do some more research before you start taking shit mate and embarrassing yourself publicly.
You say Boeing doesn't use any foreign European parts on its airplane? Even when I already provided an image showing otherwise? Lol
You say all U.S weapons are 100% made by the U.S companies? Lol Another ignorant comment.
Dude all your statements are full of ignorance . I don't usually like sounding harsh. But your ignorance baffles me to be honest.
Using your logic, since many U.S military equipments are built by British companies or they use BRITISH equipments that means the U.S is incapable of building them right?lol
I will just give you ONE SIMPLE EXAMPLE: Even the U.S most sophisticated destroyer runs on our engines. Guess that means they are our puppet. LMAO
Your logic is funny indeed.


As for BREXIT, again don't talkethings you have no knowledge about. You say it's because of we missed the train? Which train dude? This guy is funny @waz

Brexit? Huh.. France & Germany ?

 

[mike2000 is back]

Here,let me repost my original comment before you go all ballistic..and shit..
Can UK make a decent Space Launch System? a decent Electric car? 5th Gen. fighter? on it's own?...how long do you think it would take? I know many European countries that can't even make a decent Car let alone ...anything advance!
Everyone's behind US in one way or other..some are 5 years some are 100. As you've been stating, whole of Europe can't even make an advance Passenger Plane on it's own...

And I din't even say anything regarding Boeing supply-chain.I just asked that other guy if he can post any link or anything!


Remember,Boeing didn't need your permission to sell those plane...but Airbus? At least Iran can make it's own foreign Policy...but UK?...so called permanent USC member? not so much


Brexit? Huh.. France & Germany ?

So now you have switched from Iran is more advanced to Iran has its own foreign policy huh?lol Using your logic if we didn't decide our own policy, we wouldn't have voted out of the E.U Since ever major power from the U.S, to China to Japan didn't want us to leave. We wouldn't have been the first major western country to join the AIIB against U.S opposition and make it what it is today. Read about the suez canal crisis where Britain invaded Egypt and U.S was against our action/invasion. Etc. Etc we often have some conflict of interest with th U.S( and even France). we don't always agree on everything(which is normal between partners) . However, We always do what is in our best interests irregardless of whatever any country much less a fan boy like you might think.
It's useless having any constructive discussing with you. You sound like a teenage boy. Again reminds me of @ultron alias Superboy. Loool

 

[Vincent Alvares]

So now you have switched from Iran is more advanced to Iran has its own foreign policy huh?lol Using your logic if we didn't decide our own policy, we wouldn't have voted out of the E.U Since ever major power from the U.S, to China to Japan didn't want us to leave. We wouldn't have been the first major western country to join the AIIB against U.S opposition and make it what it is today. Read about the suez canal crisis where Britain invaded Egypt and U.S was against our action/invasion. Etc. Etc we often have some conflict of interest with th U.S( and even France). we don't always agree on everything(which is normal between partners) . However, We always do what is in our best interests irregardless of whatever any country much less a fan boy like you might think.
It's useless having any constructive discussing with you. You sound like a teenage boy. Again reminds me of @ultron alias Superboy. Loool

Mate, just look at your profile picReal Mature Even Iran send it's Sats to space on it's own system but you can't! But but UNSC permanent member.

 

[mike2000 is back]

Mate, just look at your profile picReal Mature Even Iran send it's Sats to space on it's own system but you can't! But but UNSC permanent member.

As I said, you are here to troll. You should listen to your Iranian friend's advice. Already addressed this issue but you keep repeating the same silly thing. Seriously where are you from originally? Asia or middle East? Or you are too ashamed to display your home country's real flag?
Looking at your comments and ignorance you are definitely not Canadian that I'm sure about .