Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[T-123456]

Russia is far way. Serbia and Russia dont have an connection even through sea , as Bulgaria and Russia have

But Bulgaria is american slut, not just poor marionette as Serbia under current elites

But, Putin and his gang dont care much about Serbia or any other hystorical allie. All the Putin oligarchy cares is their money ripped of from the russian people and their transfer to off shore zone. And subsequent property an luxury purchases in western countries. Their only ideal is money on their bank accounts. There are no history in their minds

Once you enter the EU,you want have any real enemies,so you shouldnt have a negative view on the future of Serbia.

 

[zestokryl]

Serbians on the other hand, easily assimilate, dont really invest in Serbia but they claim they are very nationalistic? Some factors i've considered are the following: drug, alcohol usage among Serbian youth in Europe. No real organization that's upholding the Serbian communities with common goal etc.

I dont now about the drug , alcohol part, so I cant real tell. But I know one thing : I am disqused with the serbian collective mentality

I ve talked with one women who earned pension in Austria. This is what she said. In turkish communities , people tend to help each other. For example, they make a purchase in various stores owned by turks. Or they care to bring other from Turkey, so he can earn and have a better life standard

On the contrary, the last thing serb abroad would want to see is another compatriot. Hes mind is set in a way he sees another serb, as one who is going to take his job away. When some of them visit Serbia , relatives ask, how is living out there. Ten compaining starts . salaries are not much, life is expensive. But when the question ensues, why you dont come back, there is no answer

There are good and noble man, but as mentality in general, serbs are crooked, dishonest and bad people. Every other nation tends to help compatriot, but serb assholes dont

Once you enter the EU,you want have any real enemies,so you shouldnt have a negative view on the future of Serbia.

Serbia is never be allowed to enter EU. At least in next 20 years

The problem is life standard is poor. Salaries and unemployment rate is almost as in central Afrika, and prices and high. This country is ruined by the 1999 year bombing campaign, and with the ensuing raging of USA marionette hyenas

There are no job opportunities here. Many sick people due to the long lasting stress and pollutution due to the bombings

 

[Zulkarneyn]

For example, they make a purchase in various stores owned by turks. Or they care to bring other from Turkey, so he can earn and have a better life standard

Yup, we have a "collective" benefit mentality. If we can bring more people into our communities, this is seen as a win/win for both. That man will find a job, earn money, and support the Turkish community etc. That's what i call patriotism, but i think it's a cultural thing as well, we as a people, have a mentality that doesn't kick the dog who suffers. This is inherent "socialism" to care for your neighbours even at the short-term expenses. Thinking in long-term this will reap much bigger benefits for a) the community b) the people who need help. But we shouldn't talk about this subject here anymore

 

[xenon54 out]

Gazamiz mübarek olsun aslanlarim.

Btw, hürriyet saying 46 isis terrorists killed and 3 cars loaded with explosives destroyed.

 

[RoadRunner401]

In the fight against militants, Turkish-backed Syrian rebels are preparing to attack one of the last Syrian towns held by Daesh.

ANKARA, TURKEY—Turkey signalled Tuesday it would step up its engagement in the Syrian war, as Turkish-backed Syrian rebels massed along the border to assault one of the last Syrian frontier towns held by Daesh militants.

Foreign Minister Mevlet Cavusolgu pledged “every kind” of support for operations against Daesh, also known as ISIS or ISIL, along a 100-kilometre stretch of Syrian frontier, putting the NATO member on track for a confrontation with U.S.-backed Kurdish fighters in Syria, who have been the most effective force against Daesh and who are eyeing the same territory.

Cavusolgu said Turkey would support twin operations stretching from the Syrian town of Afrin in the northwest, which is already controlled by Kurdish forces, to Jarablus, in the central north, which is held by the Daesh group.

“It is important that the terror organizations are cleansed from the region,” Cavusolgu said in a joint news conference with his Hungarian counterpart.

Turkish artillery shelled Jarablus for the second consecutive day as reports circulated that Turkish-backed Syrian rebels were preparing to storm the town, a vital supply line and the last border point that directly connects Daesh with Turkey and the outside world.

The Britain-based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights monitoring group said some 500 Syrian rebels were massed on the Turkish side of the border in preparation for an assault, including local fighters from Jarablus. One rebel at the border told the BBC the number was as high as 1,500 fighters.

The latest developments have thrust the town into the spotlight of the ongoing Syrian civil war. Jarablus, which lies on the western bank of the Euphrates River where it crosses from Turkey into Syria, is one of the last important Daesh-held towns standing between Kurdish-controlled areas in northern Syria.

Located 20 miles (33 kilometres) from the town of Manbij, which was liberated from IS by Kurdish-led forces earlier this month, taking control of Jarablus and the IS-held town of al-Bab to the south would be a significant step toward linking up border areas under Kurdish control east and west of the Euphrates River.


Turkey has increased security measures on its border with Syria, deploying tanks and armoured personnel carriers in recent days. On Tuesday, residents of the Turkish town of Karkamis, across the border from Jarablus, were told to evacuate after three mortars believed to be fired by Daesh militants landed there, Turkey’s Dogan news agency said.

Turkey has vowed to fight Daesh militants at home and to “cleanse” the group from its borders after a weekend suicide bombing at a Kurdish wedding in southern Turkey killed at least 54 people, many of them children. Turkish officials have blamed Daesh for the attack.

Ankara is also concerned about the growing power of U.S.-backed Syrian Kurdish forces, who it says are linked to Kurdish groups waging an insurgency in southeastern Turkey.

The Kurdish-led group known as the Syria Democratic Forces, or SDF, recaptured Manbij from Daesh earlier this month, triggering concerns in Ankara that Kurdish forces would seize the entire border strip with Turkey. The U.S. says it has embedded some 300 special forces with the SDF, and British special forces have also been spotted advising the group.

Syrian activists, meanwhile, said that hundreds of Turkish-backed Syrian opposition fighters were gathered in the Turkish border area near Karkamis in preparation for an attack on Jarablus.

Nasser Haj Mansour, an SDF official on the Syrian side of the border, said the fighters gathering in Turkey include “terrorists” as well as Turkish special forces. He declined to comment on whether the SDF would send fighters to the town, but an SDF statement said the Syrian Kurdish force was “prepared to defend the country against any plans for a direct or indirect occupation.”

The reports and rhetoric appeared to set up a confrontation between the SDF, the most effective U.S. proxy in Syria, and NATO ally Turkey.

A rebel commander affiliated with the SDF was killed shortly after broadcasting a statement announcing the formation of the so-called Jarablus Military Council and vowing to protect civilians in Jarablus from Turkish “aggression.”

Abdel-Sattar al-Jader was shot by unknown gunmen late Monday, an hour after he accused Turkey of mobilizing fighters and “terrorists” for an assault on Jarablus. Al-Jader had pledged to resist Turkish efforts to take control of the city and warned Ankara against further aggression.

The Jarablus Military Council blamed the killing on Turkish security agents. There was no immediate comment from Turkey. Haj Mansour said two suspects were in custody but declined to comment on their identities.

The Kurds’ outsized role in the Syrian civil war is a source of concern for the Syrian government as well. Fierce clashes erupted between the two sides over control of the northeastern province of Hasakeh last week, and Syrian warplanes bombed Kurdish positions for the first time, prompting the U.S. to scramble its jets to protect American troops in the area.

The Syrian government and the Kurds agreed on a ceasefire Tuesday, six days after the clashes erupted. The Kurdish Hawar News Agency said government forces agreed to withdraw from Hasakeh as part of the truce.

Syrian state media did not mention any withdrawal, saying only that the two sides had agreed to evacuate the wounded and exchange detainees. Government and Kurdish forces have shared control of Hasakeh since the early years of the Syrian war.

Meanwhile, the Syrian army and its allies intensified their attacks on militant positions around the so-called military college in the northern city of Aleppo.

A video obtained by The Associated Press showed air raids, shelling and firing on the complex, which was taken over by al-Qaida-affiliated fighters earlier this month. Plumes of smoke were seen billowing overhead.

Russia’s Deputy Defence Minister Anatoly Antonov said in emailed comments on Tuesday that Russia and the Syrian government will announce “the first 48-hour humanitarian break in hostilities” in Aleppo as soon as they receive an official request from the U.N. envoy for Syria, Staffan de Mistura.

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/...flict-brews-with-us-backed-syrian-rebels.html

 

[zestokryl]

That's what i call patriotism, but i think it's a cultural thing as well, we as a people, have a mentality that doesn't kick the dog who suffers

Thats a true nationalism, not just barking in vain, which so into my nation mentality, which Im truly ashamed of

TBut we shouldn't talk about this subject here anymore

o.k.

 

[CrimsonFury]

Gazamiz mübarek olsun aslanlarim.

Btw, hürriyet saying 46 isis terrorists killed and 3 cars loaded with explosives destroyed.

The morons are trying to use tactics they use against useless militias and the gutted Syrian army...on the Turkish armed forces. Sivadilar birazdan da tuy dikecekler

 

[Rukarl]

This move was clearly coordinated with the Iranians,Russians given the meetings we've been having, if you think this will happen without first notifying Iranians and Russians especially, then you're insane. The Russians just want the terrorists in check and safeguarding their interest in Syria, for Iran and Turkey however, the Kurds are a very big problem. Have no doubt, these operations will be to check the rising kurdish ambition. The question is, how do the yankees feel about their new pawns i.e the kurds facing certain conflict soon?

 

[CrimsonFury]

This move was clearly coordinated with the Iranians,Russians given the meetings we've been having, if you think this will happen without first notifying Iranians and Russians especially, then you're insane. The Russians just want the terrorists in check and safeguarding their interest in Syria, for Iran and Turkey however, the Kurds are a very big problem. Have no doubt, these operations will be to check the rising kurdish ambition. The question is, how do the yankees feel about their new pawns i.e the kurds facing certain conflict soon?

You are a yank...so tell us what is the mood of your media?

 

[zestokryl]

Kurdish hyenas, made a huge mistake, with confronting Assads forces in Hasaka

Instead of refraining themselves from these kind of actions, being high due to the USA support, they made stupid and unnecessary move, with no ensuing benefits

I am not fan of turkish role in Syrian war, but someone should tech american pawns a lesson

 

[[TR]AHMET]

Şimdi bi ferace zeybeği iyi gider

 

[Rukarl]

You are a yank...so tell us what is the mood of your media?

I was born in US, permanently based in Canda but I am in UK at the moment. I am of Iranian decent however.

Kurdish hyenas, made a huge mistake, with confronting Assads forces in Hasaka

Instead of refraining themselves from these kind of actions, being high due to the USA support, they made stupid and unnecessary move, with no ensuing benefits

I am not fan of turkish role in Syrian war, but someone should tech american pawns a lesson

One way or the other, Iran would have had to deal with these Kurds in the end, exact same goes for Turkey, Assad understands this as well. Even if FSA, ISIS and others were wiped out, the kurds would have had to be dealt with.

 

[-SINAN-]

The question is, how do the yankees feel about their new pawns i.e the kurds facing certain conflict soon?

Today, Turkish position was very clear...."Return back to east of Euphrates or get annihilated"

 

[usernameless]

This move was clearly coordinated with the Iranians,Russians given the meetings we've been having, if you think this will happen without first notifying Iranians and Russians especially, then you're insane. The Russians just want the terrorists in check and safeguarding their interest in Syria, for Iran and Turkey however, the Kurds are a very big problem. Have no doubt, these operations will be to check the rising kurdish ambition. The question is, how do the yankees feel about their new pawns i.e the kurds facing certain conflict soon?

Yep, that's one of the most important questions here now. Turkish minister of foreign affairs said that 'Turkey will do the necessary thing' if the pyd/ypg refuses to leave Menbic and go back to the east of the Euphrates. Let's see whether the US will clash with Turkey in the name of their pet if the pyd/ypg refuses to leave Menbic and clash with us.
Will Assad and Iran also contribute to this fight against their common enemy pyd/ypg, if it comes to that point, or will they let Turkey do the heavy lifting? I at least expect Iran to contribute too at some point and show mutual trust to each other on this whole foreign proxy pkk/pjak/pyd trash.

 

[Rukarl]

Today, Turkish position was very clear...."Return back to east of Euphrates or get annihilated"

You think the American will dump these kurds? these kurds get used for a while and then dumped. These kurds know nothing but getting used and dumped.