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have strongest soft power on earth
Philosophical statement. Türkiye will never get this power. NEVER.
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have strongest soft power on earth
Right... As if we have a long track record of getting others to fight for us... Unfortunately, we're not Jews.If you have strongest soft power on earth, you wouldn't even need an army to defend you, since you will have everyone else to fight for you.
Türkiye will never get this power. NEVER.
I know, i never claimed that she will.
Turkey, due to it's geopolitical location on earth should keep doing balance policy and that means we constantly have to piss off one side, meanwhile keep other side happy.
will never see the year 2050
Formula to safeguard Turkey's sovereignty and national interests in the coming decades:
Israel is already nuclear. Iran is about to go nuclear within the next 5-10 years (if not already). Russia is nuclear. PKK/YPG is protected/aided by a nuclear power. Libya has a history of wanting to go nuclear. Egypt and Saudi Arabia want to have nukes and are building nuclear power stations (despite their oil resources). We're surrounded by nuclear powers!
- Strong economy
- Stable politics
- Strong, mostly self sufficient military with nuclear weapons
If we don't go nuclear in the next decade or two, Turkey (as we know it) will never see the year 2050.
Soft power is always good to have. But soft power alone can't deter powerful enemies from striking Turkey, or working against our national interests, or supporting terrorists against us, or dictating us unfavorable EEZs, or organizing coups within our country. Sure, nukes don't guarantee any of that, but they certainly go a long way to that effect.
US attacked and occupied Afghanistan in a heartbeat. But it can never do the same to Pakistan. I'd count that toward nukes doing some good for Pakistan.
I don't understand where this outlook is comming from, who in their right mind would attack Turkey ?
This is a ridiculous argument. Do you think the current nuclear powers didn't ask this question to themselves? Why is the US still spending billions on maintaining its nuclear triad despite having a stronger conventional military capability than the next few countries combined?Now, at a given time when all these four are met, which will undoubtedly increase our military and intelligence capabilities drastically, why on earth would we be still desiring for nuclear weapons when we reach to have these capabilities?
You're a smart guy, don't be so naive about this. Turkey is already attacked by global powers. Perhaps not directly (yet) since the WW1 but certainly via pawns and proxies. This is what DHKP-C and ISIS were and the PKK/YPG still is. Gezi Park events and the attempted coup of July 15 were also forms of attack on Turkey by our so-called "allies" and "strategic partners". All the baseless, de facto embargoes imposed on us are also attacks on Turkey aimed to maim our defensive capabilities.
Throughout the republican history, just about every time Turkey wanted to walk on its own independent, national path, it faced such attacks in the form of interventions on our democratic will. Of course they cost countless lives and major economic damage too. Every time, we had to change our path to a Western-serving, submissive one. Such forces only want a subservient Turkey and they're sure to try and interfere again as we rise and continue to look after our own national interests at the expense of theirs.
Turkey has some very serious fracture points such as the Kurdish issue, Cyprus, Aegean Sea, Armenian border, etc. Any one or all of these fracture points can be used to inflict damage on us along with direct attacks on our country under the auspices of "bringing democracy", "stabilizing the country", "supporting moderate (read PKK) forces", "supporting opposition", etc etc.
Nuclear deterrence is absolutely a necessity for Turkey in the long run because it's the only way Turkey can threated the powers behind such attacks back. But besides that, regional nuclear foes like Israel and Iran must be matched in capabilities in order to safeguard our national interests in our own backyard.
Also, it's wrong to say that Turkey must first become a rogue "hermit state" in order to develop nukes. Did Israel become one? Did France, the UK or India? No. Well, Turkey is a G20 major-economy and the world's 6th most visited country, not to mention being central to 3 different continents and controlling major/strategic shipping routes. I'm not even going to talk about NATO membership, EU parliament membership, OIC, OECD, being an energy and aviation hub, etc etc. Turkey will never become a hermit state like North Korea.
Every nation has a right to self-defense. And if Turkey deems that it has to develop nuclear weapons in order to deter various forms of attacks on its people and government from other nuclear nations, than that's what we should do.
This is a ridiculous argument. Do you think the current nuclear powers didn't ask this question to themselves? Why is the US still spending billions on maintaining its nuclear triad despite having a stronger conventional military capability than the next few countries combined?
Simple. Because nukes are a game changer. No amount of conventional power can match nuclear weapons in destructive --and therefore deterrence-- capability. Even tiny North Korea can now hold a giant like the US at bay because they've proven nuclear capability.
This is quite interesting development, I hope UMTAS also will be able to perform same capabilities in near future.
Is there any SSM project like this?