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[atatwolf]

A very good analysis

That's exactly the reason why Russians support Armenia. It's mostly because of putting pressure on us, to avoid us expand such projects, tons of similar reasons. Iran also solely support Armenia, because it is crystal clear for them that strengthening Azerbaijan, means separation of South Azerbaijan, and in contrast to Kurdistan or .... if shit hits the fan in south Azerbaijan, Iran cannot do much to avoid her to separate. Also, Separation of South Azerbaijan for Iran means losing 25% of the population who run most businesses, have most engineers, most elites, ... of Iran. Literally means like a person loses his head.


That's the reason they want to annoy us by playing Karabagh card, not make us fully hostile, but have leverage over us. since, by making us fully hostile, then we would go for building required pipelines as big as possible, and as soon as possible, to collect all gas even from neighboring Central Asia, and also making us help Chechens and ... which their region is literally need a small activation energy to be exploded and revolted again.

Finally, they are playing a losing game, and they know it. They would finally screw Armenia over. I am a bit more pessimistic, and think it would happen in the next 10-20 years.

IMHO Russia wouldn't give concessions to anybody without being in a lesser position. Maybe when they are on the point of economic collapse of disintegration of their federation. They would give concessions to Azerbaijan to secure that flank and concentrate on the western flank where their heart land is. But IMHO if we look how Russia acted in Ukraine, we know they will reinsert their influence in Caucasus. They are on expansion mode at the moment.

 

[rmi5]

IMHO Russia wouldn't give concessions to anybody without being in a lesser position. Maybe when they are on the point of economic collapse of disintegration of their federation. They would give concessions to Azerbaijan to secure that flank and concentrate on the western flank where their heart land is. But IMHO if we look how Russia acted in Ukraine, we know they will reinsert their influence in Caucasus. They are on expansion mode at the moment.

Bro, we know Russians mentality very well. A normal person would attack some place if he thinks that he has overwhelming ability to crush the enemy, but Russians would attack when they are weak. Russia is suffering from low oil prices, specially by considering that the the cost to extract each barrel of oil is ridiculously high in Russia, and their old industries, consume oil, like how a fish float herself in water. So, their oil income is going to shitter, and remember that nothing damaged USSR more than low oil prices of 1980's. USA is playing the game again, by increasing the oil production for more than a 1 Billion Barrel per day in each year. Also, ordered Saudi to produce more oil. Basically, USA may decide to make Ukraine another Afghanistan for Russians. Disintegration of Russia is ideal for us, since it would create a load of new Turkic countries, and would push Russians more into their heartland, although it is not an easy process as it may seem. In sum, if Russians get weak enough, they will need to and will negotiate with turkics. This Ukraine conflict, and diverging Russia and USA is a golden opportunity for us

 

[Nefer]

Bro, we know Russians mentality very well. A normal person would attack some place if he thinks that he has overwhelming ability to crush the enemy, but Russians would attack when they are weak. Russia is suffering from low oil prices, specially by considering that the the cost to extract each barrel of oil is ridiculously high in Russia, and their old industries, consume oil, like how a fish float herself in water. So, their oil income is going to shitter, and remember that nothing damaged USSR more than low oil prices of 1980's. USA is playing the game again, by increasing the oil production for more than a 1 Billion Barrel per day in each year. Also, ordered Saudi to produce more oil. Basically, USA may decide to make Ukraine another Afghanistan for Russians. Separation of Russia is ideal for us, since it would create a load of new Turkic countries, and would push Russians more into their heartland, although it is not an easy process as it may seem. In sum, if Russians get weak enough, they will need to and will negotiate with turkics. This Ukraine conflict, and diverging Russia and USA is a golden opportunity for us

Can they trigger a metro 2033

 

[rmi5]

Can they trigger a metro 2033

What do you mean bro?
More elaboration please.

 

[atatwolf]

Bro, we know Russians mentality very well. A normal person would attack some place if he thinks that he has overwhelming ability to crush the enemy, but Russians would attack when they are weak. Russia is suffering from low oil prices, specially by considering that the the cost to extract each barrel of oil is ridiculously high in Russia, and their old industries, consume oil, like how a fish float herself in water. So, their oil income is going to shitter, and remember that nothing damaged USSR more than low oil prices of 1980's. USA is playing the game again, by increasing the oil production for more than a 1 Billion Barrel per day in each year. Also, ordered Saudi to produce more oil. Basically, USA may decide to make Ukraine another Afghanistan for Russians. Disintegration of Russia is ideal for us, since it would create a load of new Turkic countries, and would push Russians more into their heartland, although it is not an easy process as it may seem. In sum, if Russians get weak enough, they will need to and will negotiate with turkics. This Ukraine conflict, and diverging Russia and USA is a golden opportunity for us

True, this is also what the geopolitical analyst George Friedman says. Eventually Russia will have to make concession to Turkey and Turkic countries to secure that flank. Their economy is going to go belly up sooner or later. Their ethnic Russian population has very low birth rates and very high death rates. Low birth rates because Russian men are not interested in a family and Russian females go with foreigners. High death rates because of alcohol and other things. If Russia disintegrates we would gain influence in whole of Caucasus and beyond, Crimea, Tataristan, and Central Asia. I wouldn't like this to happen now but ideally over 10 years when all Turkic countries will be in a much better position economically and more importantly militarily.

 

[Nefer]

What do you mean bro?
More elaboration please.

I am surprised you don't know that novel, but launching every nuke which they have in their arsenal, because just **** it

 

[rmi5]

True, this is also what the geopolitical analyst George Friedman says. Eventually Russia will have to make concession to Turkey and Turkic countries to secure that flank. Their economy is going to go belly up sooner or later. Their ethnic Russian population has very low birth rates and very high death rates. Low birth rates because Russian men are not interested in a family and Russian females go with foreigners. High death rates because of alcohol and other things. If Russia disintegrates we would gain influence in whole of Caucasus and beyond, Crimea, Tataristan, and Central Asia. I wouldn't like this to happen now but ideally over 10 years when all Turkic countries will be in a much better position economically and more importantly militarily.

I believe that we will someday push Russians back to their original lands. I want to expand your comment on negative population growth since it is crucially dangerous for Russians and is less noted. So far, they have survived with accepting Russians of the other ex-soviet countries, and accepting more central asian immigrants. But, this strategy will fail in future, since most Russians of Central Asia, Baltics, and Caucasus are back to Russia, and only some are left in Kazakhstan and Ukraine in which if you have noticed their percentage in kazakh population, it decreases each year, and it has dropped to 23,3% in 2010, which is almost half of what it was in 1990. Anyway, they cannot do much, since their culture has became less family oriented and alcoholism, emigration to west, ... are not going to decrease.

I am surprised you don't know that novel, but launching every nuke which they have in their arsenal, because just **** it

I did not understood what you meant by mentioning it. Anyway, they are not stupids to use nukes. It was an imaginary option when USSR with much bigger arsenal was going to be collapsed, but, it did not happen.

 

[asena_great]

@Targon lets talk here that girl extremely looks turkmen i read this in wikipedia

Yörüks in Iran
Clans closely related to the Yörüks are scattered throughout the Anatolian peninsula and beyond its boundaries, particularly around the chain of Taurus Mountains and further east around the shores of the Caspian sea. Of the Turcomans of Iran, the Yomuts come the closest to the definition of the Yörüks. An interesting offshoot of the Yörük mass are the Tahtadji of the mountainous regions of Western Anatolia who, as their name implies, have been occupied with forestry work and wood craftsmanship for centuries, although they share similar traditions (with markedly matriarchal tones in their society structure) with their other Yörük cousins.

Yörüks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i want to find some strong connections between us

 

[Targon]

@Targon lets talk here that girl extremely looks turkmen i read this in wikipedia


Yörüks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i want to find some strong connections between us

Turkic speaking nomads in Anatolia are called, Yörük, Konar Göçer, Türkmen, yes Türkmen too is occassionally used, although it not clear why Ottoman sources usually calls eastern anatolian nomads Türkmen and western anatolians Yörük, its claimed that its because of life style, eastern nomads were roaming plains while western ones usually mountains.

 

[asena_great]

Turkic speaking nomads in Anatolia are called, Yörük, Konar Göçer, Türkmen, yes Türkmen too is occassionally used, although it not clear why Ottoman sources usually calls eastern anatolian nomads Türkmen and western anatolians Yörük, its claimed that its because of life style, eastern nomads were roaming plains while western ones usually mountains.

how can i find name of tribe and clan in turkey ?

 

[asena_great]

@Targon just for know tekke/teke tribe has some clan from antalya long time ago they came to east and reunited by other teke tribes men

 

[Targon]

@asena_great

You mean the Qizilbash Takkalu tribe ? Yeah many of the great Qizilbash tribes were from Anatolia and Syria and they joined Safavids, I don't know if this Takkalu tribe is the same tribe as the one from Antalya.

Tribes in Anatolia scatteredly recorded in Ottoman archives, there is such a list I found, its features some around 16th century(1500s), don't know how accurate.

ANADOLU AŞİRETLERİ TÜRKMEN VE YÖRÜK GRUPLARI

 

[asena_great]

@asena_great

You mean the Qizilbash Takkalu tribe ? Yeah many of the great Qizilbash tribes were from Anatolia and Syria and they joined Safavids, I don't know if this Takkalu tribe is the same tribe as the one from Antalya.

Tribes in Anatolia scatteredly recorded in Ottoman archives, there is such a list I found, its features some around 16th century(1500s), don't know how accurate.

ANADOLU AŞİRETLERİ TÜRKMEN VE YÖRÜK GRUPLARI

dude are u online i need talk with u

 

[asena_great]

Targon i was studing my people's history and i see find something intresting i want talk to you about two different subject

1 conncetion of oghuz and oghur turks
2 history of my tribe/ ill the Salghurids i need to know about their brench in turkey when they arrive what clan they have where they sattled

 

[ASQ-1918]

South Azerbaijan.