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Turkey's STM won Pakistan Agosta 90B modernization tender

"STM Breaks New Ground In Pakistan

STM has achieved major success as it was awarded the submarine modernization tender initiated by Pakistan’s Ministry of Defence Production against the company which has built the submarines. Thus, engineering exports will be initiated in our country for the first time in the field of submarines, a field that calls for advanced technology.

STM has marked major success in being awarded the international tender that was initiated for the half-life modernization of class “Agosta 90B” submarines in the inventory of Pakistani Naval Forces; competing against the French company which designed and built the submarines themselves. Covering a total of 3 submarine modernization orders; 1 of which is confirmed in addition to 2 orders on an optional basis; the contract was signed on 22 June 2016 in Rawalpindi/Pakistan; between Pakistan’s Ministry of Defence Production and STM; under the supervision of officials from the Embassy of Pakistan in Turkey and the Undersecretariat for Defense Industries.

As part of the project regarding the modernization of class “Agosta 90B” submarines; STM entered a long, compelling competitive evaluation process with French DCNS Shipyard which undertook the designing and production operations for the aforementioned submarines. After a tendering process beginning on April 16, STM was found to be technically and commercially superior and was selected as the main contractor to sign the contract. The modernization operations will be performed at a local shipyard in Pakistan. The first submarine will be delivered in 45 months. The other submarines are estimated to be modernized with 1 year in between the modernization of each."

STM Breaks New Ground In Pakistan
i find it hard to believe that stm is technically superior than dcns. i would however understand if it was cheaper and greater independancy as i would suspects the turks would give source codes for their equipment which would be used on futher subs which are being procured from china which would give the subs the abiliy to have the same c&c systems. they wont touch the mesma aip as they have no experiance. though dcns could provide upgrades to ksew who have built 2 of these subs which result in the aips could be similar to that on the scorpenes
 
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Turkey's STM beats French DCN in submarine tender which made our days in brothers' tender. It seems that Turkey and Pakistan is planning to proceed same way in many sector.

At present, Turkish industry is busy with applying very similar advanced technologies to own submarine projects under the leadership of STM. Pakistan also joined into this Turkish tech submarine club.

The submarines that will use similar technologies.

-6 U214TN
-4 U209-1400 Preveze MLU
-3 Pakistani AGOSTA Class
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-Milden domestic Turkish submarine project


The Agosta upgrade deal may contains :

- HAVELSAN SEDA Submarine Command Control System

- HAVELSAN TORAKS Torpedo FCS System

- HAVELSAN Submarine Data Distribution System (DBDS)

- ASELSAN Intercept and Mine Avoiding Sonar

- ASELSAN KULAC Echosounder sonar/electronic units

- ASELSAN ARES-200N ESM/ELINT System

- ASELSAN LPI radar

- ASELSAN LPI sonar

- ASELSAN MATES Mine detection sonar

- ASELSAN DAKA Torpedo Countermeasure system (softkill)

- Aselsan TORK anti-torpedo torpedo hard-kill system integration to DAKA TCMS.

- MILSOFT Link11/LINK-16 Proccessing System

- Carl Zeiss Periscope with ASELSAN IR Cameras

- ASELSAN Communication Suite

- Golcuk Shipyard Submarine Battery Sets

- TUBITAK Submarine Battery Control & Managment System

- ROKETSAN Akya torpedo and sub-Atmaca ship to ship missile launching capability for future !
 
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The people who have the power to rectify things are busy in saluting the corrupt and minding their own "professional" career, they damn care about the country. so first get the house in order then ask the overseas to return. We don't have even the right to vote. A country is not like a family at least not like our country because in a family you always have somenone who listens to you..if that last person is gone, you have to leave the family...a painful fact.
Very tragic I thought us lots obrseas had different opinion but oh well no one is willing to take responsiblity. Just the typical blame game
 
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Future Chinese Subs may also be upgraded so that they can talk Agosta-90b subs....
Future new subs do not require upgrade because these systems can be procured and installed from the start.

This also opens up the possibility that Pakistan may at some stage join the Turkish Submarine program in the future.
 
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Years of ToT, building this and that. Investment in defense industry. And we can't build an egg cup by ourselves.

Turkey was way behind us in this sector. And now they are ahead of us.

Same as Korea, Japan, and Taiwan etc. So no change there, then.

A country in permanent relative decline.
It's not that we can't build rather the fact that we rejoice somebody doing it for us... sad state of affairs...
 
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Turkey's STM beats French DCN in submarine tender which made our days in brothers' tender. It seems that Turkey and Pakistan is planning to proceed same way in many sector.

At present, Turkish industry is busy with applying very similar advanced technologies to own submarine projects under the leadership of STM. Pakistan also joined into this Turkish tech submarine club.

The submarines that will use similar technologies.

-6 U214TN
-4 U209-1400 Preveze MLU
-3 Pakistani AGOSTA Class
+
-Milden domestic Turkish submarine project


The Agosta upgrade deal may contains :

- HAVELSAN SEDA Submarine Command Control System

- HAVELSAN TORAKS Torpedo FCS System

- HAVELSAN Submarine Data Distribution System (DBDS)

- ASELSAN Intercept and Mine Avoiding Sonar

- ASELSAN KULAC Echosounder sonar/electronic units

- ASELSAN ARES-200N ESM/ELINT System

- ASELSAN LPI radar

- ASELSAN LPI sonar

- ASELSAN MATES Mine detection sonar

- ASELSAN DAKA Torpedo Countermeasure system (softkill)

- Aselsan TORK anti-torpedo torpedo hard-kill system integration to DAKA TCMS.

- MILSOFT Link11/LINK-16 Proccessing System

- Carl Zeiss Periscope with ASELSAN IR Cameras

- ASELSAN Communication Suite

- Golcuk Shipyard Submarine Battery Sets

- TUBITAK Submarine Battery Control & Managment System

- ROKETSAN Akya torpedo and sub-Atmaca ship to ship missile launching capability for future !
I am very excited for the MILDEN submarine program.
 
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Turkey-Pakistan Naval Cooperation History !

-MRTP-16 exported to Pakistan
-MRTP-33 exported to Pakistan
-Genesis CMS applied for Pakistani Perry
-STAMP stabilized guns are selected by Pakistan.
-Milgem is checked by Pakistani officials and seriously considered by Pakistan in 2010's but nothing has been finalized yet.
-STM fleet tanker is selected by Pakistan. The ship is being built in Karachi.
-STM is selected by Pakistan to upgrade Agosta submarines in Pakistan.


It seems that Pakistan is seriously following almost all Naval projects Turkey generates and actively checking them When they are matured. I think Old coperations light the ways for future coperations as well. We have much more advanced and strategic naval projects in our future and I seriously believe that Pakistan and Turkey will step the similar ways on Naval sector.

-Fast Assault Boat Project (60knot speed, 8 SSM, Main gun, 3D radar)
-Istanbul Class Frigate (Milgem-G)
-TF-2000 class frigate/destroyer
-Milden submarine project
-LST Bayraktar ships
-Anatolia Light Aircraft Carrier (LHD) - under construction (Juan Carlos licence)


Naval Missile Sector !
Temren Missile (Mizrak-D) -2017
Atmaca anti-ship Missile - 2016
National Cruise Missile (Gezgin) (~1000km)
National SAM integration (Hisar family)-(2017)
Akya integration (533mm heavy torpedo) (2017)
 
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Turkey-Pakistan Naval Cooperation History !

-MRTP-16 exported to Pakistan
-MRTP-33 exported to Pakistan
-Genesis CMS applied for Pakistani Perry
-STAMP stabilized guns are selected by Pakistan.
-Milgem is checked by Pakistani officials and seriously considered by Pakistan in 2010's but nothing has been finalized yet.
-STM fleet tanker is selected by Pakistan. The ship is being built in Karachi.
-STM is selected by Pakistan to upgrade Agosta submarines in Pakistan.


It seems that Pakistan is seriously following almost all Naval projects Turkey generates and actively checking them When they are matured. I think Old coperations light the ways for future coperations as well. We have much more advanced and strategic naval projects in our future and I seriously believe that Pakistan and Turkey will step the similar ways on Naval sector.

-Fast Assault Boat Project (60knot speed, 8 SSM, Main gun, 3D radar)
-Istanbul Class Frigate (Milgem-G)
-TF-2000 class frigate/destroyer
-Milden submarine project
-LST Bayraktar ships
-Anatolia Light Aircraft Carrier (LHD) - under construction (Juan Carlos licence)


Naval Missile Sector !
Temren Missile (Mizrak-D) -2017
Atmaca anti-ship Missile - 2016
National Cruise Missile (Gezgin) (~1000km)
National SAM integration (Hisar family)-(2017)
Akya integration (533mm heavy torpedo) (2017)
Regarding the MILGEM/Ada-class, Pakistan requested a $400m loan from Turkey to help finance a deal for 4 ships.

http://www.milliyet.com.tr/milli-savunma-bakani-isik-pakistan-da-kocaeli-yerelhaber-1406967/
 
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