Turkey versus U.S. (Video analysis)

[WarDaddy97]

Bolsheviks help is actually overrated lol they may have helped us but they were not the only reason why Turkey won. By the way Greeks and the Armenians love to overbloat the bolsheviks role in the independence war to cover their failures when they were backed by the Allies themselves.

I don’t care what Greeks or Armenians think. Numbers don’t lie. Google what Bolsheviks sent and think if its overrated. And keep in mind that pussy Greeks marched all the way to Ankara and in the battle of Sakarya you almost had some sort of parity in weapons against your enemies. Without Bolshevik help you wouldn’t have that. No artillery shells, no cannons, no rounds for ammo. No funds to procure weapons(yes, they did send gold as well). How would fight them? With swords?
Similarly, it was NATO( or USA) who saved you from Stalin. Red army would crash you and march all the way to Bosporus if not us. To add salt to the wound, general Bagramian, an Armenian, would be in charge of offensive. Without our help, you would be speaking Russian right now

 

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Without Bolshevik help you wouldn’t have that. No artillery shells, no cannons, no rounds for ammo. No funds to procure weapons(yes, they did send gold as well). How would fight them? With swords?

after ww1 Ottoman Army was banned in 1918
and British,French,Greeks,Armenians,etc all together attacked on unarmed Turks in 1919

but Muslims in Uzbekhstan,India,Pakistan sent gold and money to Russians
and Russians ( Bolsheviks ) sent weapons to the TURKS to kick Greeks,Armenians,French in 1920-1922

it was NATO( or USA) who saved you from Stalin. Red army would crash you and march all the way to Bosporus if not us.

maybe only in your dreams ,, TURKS never lost in Turkish soil , Crusaders or British-French or Russians doesnt matter since 1096

CHURCHILL also dreamed to drink Turkish coffee in Istanbul
but TURKS destroyed most modern British and French navies and killed over 252.000 british,french,anzacs,etc in the battle of Gallipoli during ww1 ( 1915 ) ..... British and French failed to take Istanbul in ww1


as of 2018 Turkey has everything ( 81 million ultra nationalist brave people ,, 13th biggest GDP PPP in the world ,, strong defense industry and military ) .... nobody can match with the Turks in Turkish soil


btw even poor and weak Afghanistan kicked Red Army , Russians could not take Afghanistan in 10 years
also super power the US failed in poor and weak Vietnam
The war is not video game ,,

 

[WarDaddy97]

after ww1 Ottoman Army was banned in 1918
and British,French,Greeks,Armenians,etc all together attacked on unarmed Turks in 1919

but Muslims in Uzbekhstan,India,Pakistan sent gold and money to Russians
and Russians ( Bolsheviks ) sent weapons to the TURKS to kick Greeks,Armenians,French in 1920-1922





maybe only in your dreams ,, TURKS never lost in Turkish soil , Crusaders or British-French or Russians doesnt matter since 1096

CHURCHILL also dreamed to drink Turkish coffee in Istanbul
but TURKS destroyed most modern British and French navies and killed over 252.000 british,french,anzacs,etc in the battle of Gallipoli during ww1 ( 1915 ) ..... British and French failed to take Istanbul


as of 2018 Turkey has everything ( 81 million ultra nationalist brave people ,, 13th biggest GDP PPP in the world ,, strong defense industry and military ) .... nobody can match with the Turks in Turkish soil


btw even poor and weak Afghanistan kicked Red Army , Russians could not take Afghanistan in 10 years
also super power the US failed in poor and weak Vietnam
The war is not video game ,,

Ever been to Afghanistan?
I spent two tours there. I know what’s war and what’s video game unlike you who probably never served in Turkish army.
Afghanistan in 80s got help from
USA
Pakistan(training and distribution)
China(weapons)
KSA(financial support, volunteers)
So they weren’t unarmed. Armed to the teeth. Nowadays they get supplied. from Iran, Russia. And tacit approval from Pakistan.
Vietnam was aided by Chinese and USSR. From AD to air force and mech units. I am sure you know NOTHING about that. And yet,
we bombed, bombed until they sat and signed peace treaty(operation Linebacker)
You lost on your soil plenty of times. Between 1914-1916 most of Anatolia was in Russian hands. Remember Sarikamish? Remember Kars, Erzurum? Between 1878-1916 you were constantly defeated in the area close to “Turkish soil” by Russians in Bulgaria, Serbs at Kumanovo, Italians in Africa and Bulgarians in 1912.
I won’t comment top portion of your reply because it’s gibberish. Pakistan , Uzbekistan didn’t exist at that time. Muslims sending gold to infidel Russians so Russians give it to Turks don’t disgrace yourself with such preposterous claims.

 

[damm1t]

Vietnam was aided by Chinese and USSR.

Nice story bro. Viets kicked your fat *** one hand tied although Yankees dropped millions of tons bomb from air to civilians.

 

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Ever been to Afghanistan?
I spent two tours there. I know what’s war and what’s video game unlike you who probably never served in Turkish army.
Afghanistan in 80s got help from
USA
Pakistan(training and distribution)
China(weapons)
KSA(financial support, volunteers)
So they weren’t unarmed. Armed to the teeth. Nowadays they get supplied. from Iran, Russia. And tacit approval from Pakistan.
Vietnam was aided by Chinese and USSR. From AD to air force and mech units. I am sure you know NOTHING about that. And yet,
we bombed, bombed until they sat and signed peace treaty(operation Linebacker)
You lost on your soil plenty of times. Between 1914-1916 most of Anatolia was in Russian hands. Remember Sarikamish? Remember Kars, Erzurum? Between 1878-1916 you were constantly defeated in the area close to “Turkish soil” by Russians in Bulgaria, Serbs at Kumanovo, Italians in Africa and Bulgarians in 1912.
I won’t comment top portion of your reply because it’s gibberish. Pakistan , Uzbekistan didn’t exist at that time. Muslims sending gold to infidel Russians so Russians give it to Turks don’t disgrace yourself with such preposterous claims.

dont say tales
and go to play video game or watch hollywood movies such as RAMBO

USSR was super power and huge and modern Red Army failed in weak and poor Afghanistan
Afghanistan had a few heavy weapons , anti tank weapons and MANPADS ,,, nothing else

Super Power The US failed in Vietnam ,,, super power USSR failed in Afghanistan
Americans and Russians only killed million of civilians in Vietnam and Afghanistan ...... criminal scums


TURKS never lost in Turkish soil
Turkish Army kicked Russians and Armenians in Caucasian Campaign during WW1
also Turkish Army entered Georgia and Azerbaijan and kicked Russians and Armenians in Baku in ww1 even Turkish Army invaded half of Iran in 1917

Italians attacked Libya , not Anatolia in 1912


and about 1878 War

282.000 Turkish Army 3 times beat over 750.000 Russian Army in Bulgaria also over 200.000 serbs,bulgars,rumanians helped Russians in Bulgaria

282.000 Turks fought against over 950.000 Russians+Serbs+Bulgars+Rumanians in 1877-1878 War

Pakistan , Uzbekistan didn’t exist at that time. Muslims sending gold to infidel Russians so Russians give it to Turks don’t disgrace yourself with such preposterous claims.

I am saying again
,,,,, Muslims present day in Uzbekhstan,India and Pakistan gave gold and money to Bolsheviks to help the Turks against British,French,Greeks,Armenians


do you know what about Bukharan People's Soviet Republic between 1920 and 1925 ( present day Uzbekistan ) ?

Bukharan People's Soviet Republic sent 100 million gold ruble to Moscow from Bukhara / Uzbekhstan to help the Turks

but the only part of the gold 18.3268 million gold rubles sent by the Government of Bukhara were delivered to Turkey ...... 81.6732 million gold rubles to be sent to Turkey has clearly been usurped by LENIN's government

and Russians sent weapons to Turks


also İndian Committee of the Caliphate ( present day Muslims in India and Pakistan ) sent 1,5 million british sterling to Turkey during the Turkish War of Independence

 

[WarDaddy97]

Nice story bro. Viets kicked your fat *** one hand tied although Yankees dropped millions of tons bomb from air to civilians.

Nowadays Russians and Chinese veterans write memoirs about their participation in Vietnam so your Turkish opinion is irrelevant.

dont say tales
and go to play video game or watch hollywood movies such as RAMBO

USSR was super power and huge and modern Red Army failed in weak and poor Afghanistan
Afghanistan had a few heavy weapons , anti tank weapons and MANPADS ,,, nothing else

Super Power The US failed in Vietnam ,,, super power USSR failed in Afghanistan
Americans and Russians only killed million of civilians in Vietnam and Afghanistan ...... criminal scums


TURKS never lost in Turkish soil
Turkish Army kicked Russians and Armenians in Caucasian Campaign during WW1
also Turkish Army entered Georgia and Azerbaijan and kicked Russians and Armenians in Baku in ww1 even Turkish Army invaded half of Iran in 1917

Italians attacked Libya , not Anatolia in 1912


and about 1878 War

282.000 Turkish Army 3 times beat over 750.000 Russian Army in Bulgaria also over 200.000 serbs,bulgars,rumanians helped Russians in Bulgaria

282.000 Turks fought against over 950.000 Russians+Serbs+Bulgars+Rumanians in 1877-1878 War







I am saying again
,,,,, Muslims present day in Uzbekhstan,India and Pakistan gave gold and money to Bolsheviks to help the Turks against British,French,Greeks,Armenians


do you know what about Bukharan People's Soviet Republic between 1920 and 1925 ( present day Uzbekistan ) ?

Bukharan People's Soviet Republic sent 100 million gold ruble to Moscow from Bukhara / Uzbekhstan to help the Turks

but the only part of the gold 18.3268 million gold rubles sent by the Government of Bukhara were delivered to Turkey ...... 81.6732 million gold rubles to be sent to Turkey has clearly been usurped by LENIN's government

and Russians sent weapons to Turks


also İndian Committee of the Caliphate ( present day Muslims in India and Pakistan ) sent 1,5 million british sterling to Turkey during the Turkish War of Independence

People of present day, 30 million Uzb, won’t even collect that much gold. Lol.stop reading conspiracy websites, grow out of it already unless you are Bukharan and pumping your chest makes you proud and happy

 

[damm1t]

Nowadays Russians and Chinese veterans write memoirs about their participation in Vietnam so your Turkish opinion is irrelevant.

Truth hurts buddy

 

[WarDaddy97]

Truth hurts buddy

Tell it to Russian and Chinese veterans and politicians

HONG KONG, MAY 16 -- China admitted today that it sent 320,000 combat troops to Vietnam to fight against U.S. forces and their South Vietnamese allies. In a report monitored in Hong Kong, the semi-official China News Service said China sent the soldiers to Vietnam during the 1960s and spent over $20 billion to support Hanoi's regular North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong guerrilla units. The disclosure was made a month after military officials in the Soviet Union admitted that a contingent of Soviet advisers in Vietnam took part in combat against U.S. forces and helped shoot down American planes. Moscow had previously denied its troops played a combat role in the war.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...8bf-80d2-bea80f64057c/?utm_term=.af57c588a14a

Although your opinion is irrelevant,considering that Russians and Chinese long ago opened their archives, I would suggest you not to disgrace yourself with such outlandish statements

 

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People of present day, 30 million Uzb, won’t even collect that much gold. Lol.stop reading conspiracy websites, grow out of it already unless you are Bukharan and pumping your chest makes you proud and happy

You know nothing about Turkish tradition , Uzbekhstan or Turkey doesnt matter
even There are so many gold only in their mouth





The volume of proven and confirmed gold reserves in Uzbekistan is about 2,100 tons. The total reserves are approximately 3,350 tons
https://www.azernews.az/region/124626.html



and Bukharan People's Soviet Republic sent 100 million gold ruble to Moscow from Bukhara / Uzbekhstan to help the Turks

but only 18.3 million gold rubles sent by the Government of Bukhara were delivered to Turkey

do you know what about gold ruble ?




btw Turkish central Bank has 564 tons of gold but Turkish people has over 5.000 tons of gold
even I am not talking about over 47.000 jewelry stores in Turkey
that means bigger than Germany ( 3.373 tons ) + France ( 2.436 tons ) combined


and S.Arabia has 322 tons of gold ... the UK has 310 tons of gold ... Kazakhstan has 301 tons of gold

 

[damm1t]

Tell it to Russian and Chinese veterans and politicians

HONG KONG, MAY 16 -- China admitted today that it sent 320,000 combat troops to Vietnam to fight against U.S. forces and their South Vietnamese allies. In a report monitored in Hong Kong, the semi-official China News Service said China sent the soldiers to Vietnam during the 1960s and spent over $20 billion to support Hanoi's regular North Vietnamese Army and Viet Cong guerrilla units. The disclosure was made a month after military officials in the Soviet Union admitted that a contingent of Soviet advisers in Vietnam took part in combat against U.S. forces and helped shoot down American planes. Moscow had previously denied its troops played a combat role in the war.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/arch...8bf-80d2-bea80f64057c/?utm_term=.af57c588a14a

Although your opinion is irrelevant,considering that Russians and Chinese long ago opened their archives, I would suggest you not to disgrace yourself with such outlandish statements

Aircraft carriers,
Strategic bombers,
Fighter jets,
Helicopters,
Tanks and other armors,
Bombs, mortars, missiles, chemical weapons,
Heavy and light guns
Thousands of trained soldier...

VS

Guerillas with AK47s and booby traps ...

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And you blame Russia and China for defeat?

 

[WarDaddy97]

Aircraft carriers,
Strategic bombers,
Fighter jets,
Helicopters,
Tanks and other armors,
Bombs, mortars, missiles, chemical weapons,
Heavy and light guns
Thousands of trained soldier...

VS

Guerillas with AK47s and booby traps ...

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And you blame Russia and China for defeat?

Guerrilas with AK47 and booby traps. Plus mechanized units in North Vietnam. Plus Soviet and Chinese air defense rings around NV. Plus MiG fighter jets by both Soviets and Chinese. Plus Chinese publicly stating that over 300k fought in NV.

Who disputes that?

A Turk who never served his country and has no idea how to fight PKK armed with AK47 and booby traps. Since 1984

You know nothing about Turkish tradition , Uzbekhstan or Turkey doesnt matter
even There are so many gold only in their mouth





The volume of proven and confirmed gold reserves in Uzbekistan is about 2,100 tons. The total reserves are approximately 3,350 tons
https://www.azernews.az/region/124626.html



and Bukharan People's Soviet Republic sent 100 million gold ruble to Moscow from Bukhara / Uzbekhstan to help the Turks

but only 18.3 million gold rubles sent by the Government of Bukhara were delivered to Turkey

do you know what about gold ruble ?




btw Turkish central Bank has 564 tons of gold but Turkish people has over 5.000 tons of gold
even I am not talking about over 47.000 jewelry stores in Turkey
that means bigger than Germany ( 3.373 tons ) + France ( 2.436 tons ) combined


and S.Arabia has 322 tons of gold ... the UK has 310 tons of gold ... Kazakhstan has 301 tons of gold

Wow. A new historical secret has been revealed on Pakistani forum. 18.5 million Bukharan gold saved and paved a way for Turkish Republic. If this guy only knew what a low he just hit

 

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Wow. A new historical secret has been revealed on Pakistani forum. 18.5 million Bukharan gold saved and paved a way for Turkish Republic

are you 16 or what ? İts not secret
Turkey asked money and weapons from LENIN and 18.3 million gold rubles sent by the Government of Bukhara ( Uzbekhstan ) were delivered to Turkey ( from Timur's treasure )

also İndian Committee of the Caliphate ( present day Muslims in India and Pakistan ) sent 1,5 million british sterling to Turkey during the Turkish War of Independence

do you know about TIMUR ? Timur was born in Uzbekhstan
TIMUR was founder of the Timurid Empire in Uzbekhstan , Iran and Central Asia
He became the first ruler in the Timurid dynasty and emerged as the most powerful ruler in the Muslim world after defeating the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, Ottoman Empire, and Delhi Sultanate

the Timurid Empire was so rich and the Government of Bukhara was TIMUR's descendants

https://www.livehistoryindia.com/forgotten-treasures/2017/08/08/the-fabulous-timur-ruby

 

[WarDaddy97]

are you 16 or what ? İts not secret
Turkey asked money and weapons from LENIN and 18.3 million gold rubles sent by the Government of Bukhara ( Uzbekhstan ) were delivered to Turkey ( from Timur's treasure )

also İndian Committee of the Caliphate ( present day Muslims in India and Pakistan ) sent 1,5 million british sterling to Turkey during the Turkish War of Independence

do you know about TIMUR ? Timur was born in Uzbekhstan
TIMUR was founder of the Timurid Empire in Uzbekhstan , Iran and Central Asia
He became the first ruler in the Timurid dynasty and emerged as the most powerful ruler in the Muslim world after defeating the Mamluks of Egypt and Syria, Ottoman Empire, and Delhi Sultanate

the Timurid Empire was so rich and the Government of Bukhara was TIMUR's descendants

https://www.livehistoryindia.com/forgotten-treasures/2017/08/08/the-fabulous-timur-ruby

Of course I heard of Timur. He caged Sultan Bayazid and used that cage to mount his horse. Very well known historical fact.
He also delivered massive blow to Seljuks.
Timur was a real Chingizid(do you know what that means?). Kyrgyz and Kazakh people are chingizids as well. You, Turks, are not chingizids. You are mix of Greeks, Armenians, and whatever Turkic tribes that arrived from Central Asia. So stop kissing up to Timur. You have your own heroes. Leave Timur to REAL chingizids.
No I am not 16 but your knowledge of your own history is weak. This is what you do. You don’t want to admit Bolsheviks help, what you do you hide behind Bukharan gold, Indian Muslims. After almost a year on this platform I am not surprised. I guess level of education under Erdogan is falling dramatically

 

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Timur was a real Chingizid(do you know what that means?). Kyrgyz and Kazakh people are chingizids as well. You, Turks, are not chingizids. You are mix of Greeks, Armenians, and whatever Turkic tribes that arrived from Central Asia. So stop kissing up to Timur. You have your own heroes. Leave Timur to REAL chingizids.

wtf chingizids ? there are Oghuz Turks and Kıpchak Turks ,, but we are all TURKIC WORLD
Its my great history since 209 BC and greeks,armenians were our slaves , nothing else


and Turks bought weapons from Bolsheviks because of our Turkic brothers in Uzbekhstan sent 100 millions of gold rubles to Moscow ... even 81.6 million gold rubles has clearly been usurped by LENIN

Turks had no money ,,I told you the truth , so wtf are you still trolling ?
and Turks kicked greeks,armenians,french led by ATATURK in 1920-1922


ignorant TROLL is trying to teach me my own history

do you know what about Presidential Seal of Turkey ?



It has a large 16 pointed Sun which symbolizes the Republic of Turkey in the center, which is surrounded by 16 five pointed stars, symbolizing the 16 Great Turkish Empires in history including Timurid Empire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_Great_Turkic_Empires



go away now ignorant TROLL ...... topic is over

 

[WarDaddy97]

wtf chingizids ? there are Oghuz Turks and Kıpchak Turks ,, but we are all TURKIC WORLD
Its my great history since 209 BC and greeks,armenians were our slaves , nothing else

stfu and go to kiss some jewish butt in the US ( for example Turkic origin Khazars - Ashkenazi jews )

and Turks bought weapons from Bolsheviks because of our Turkic brothers in Uzbekhstan sent 100 millions of gold rubles to Moscow ... even 81.6 million gold rubles has clearly been usurped by LENIN

Turks had no money idiot ,,I told you the truth , so wtf are you still trolling ?
and Turks kicked greeks,armenians,french led by ATATURK in 1920-1922


ignorant TROLL is trying to teach me my own history

do you know what about Presidential Seal of Turkey ?



It has a large 16 pointed Sun which symbolizes the Republic of Turkey in the center, which is surrounded by 16 five pointed stars, symbolizing the 16 Great Turkish Empires in history including Timurid Empire

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16_Great_Turkic_Empires



go away now ignorant TROLL ...... topic is over

You mixed with those slaves hence modern Turkish nation. Run your DNA dumbass, see what kind of shit pops up there. I guarantee you’ll have Jew/Armenian/Greek and even a Kurd in you, then some central Asian genes.
Wtf is chingizid? Exactly. Your knowledge of Turkic world on elementary level
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Descent_from_Genghis_Khan

Timur or Timur-I-Leng is a true descendant of Chingiz just like tatars from Qazan and Siberia along with Kyrgyz Uighurs and Kazakh people. You have nothing to do with them because a.came from different stock of Asian tribe. B. Mixed with local population in present day Turkey and beyond. Look at your sultans almost all of them were half Greek, half serb, viziers, generals were mostly mixed. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that, you need to embrace it, it’s more foolish to deny that fact and fistpump your weak chest appealing to Bukharan gold or Timur who caged Bayazid
Presidential seal with 16 pointed suns or even 160 suns means jack shit in reality. Timurid dynasty had nothing to with Ottoman Empire. Batu, Chagatai, Kubilay khanates had nothing to do with Ottoman Empire. They were on different level came from mongols not oguz or kipchaks and mixed with Chinese and later on with Russians.