Turkey uses laser weapon technology to shoot down Chinese UAV Wing Loong II in Libya

[dBSPL]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1185258138964025347

It was shot down with kind of MANPADS, not a Laser Weapon system.

But if the UAE does not withdraw these systems, everywhere will be debris of chinese UAVs, in Libya.

 

[SleeveofWizard]

Chinese won't come to this topic, they are only for their win topic to talk about their propaganda or CCP Propaganda

They have nothing to be ashamed about. Drones get shot down all the time. You think American drones never got shot down in Afghanistan or Iraq? If they are flying low they aren't exactly hard to shoot down. A sharp shooter could take them out with a machine gun if he is good. Besides, these wu longs or whatever are not exactly state of the art drones, they are cheap copies of predator, Chinese sell a lot of them at a cheap cost and they do the job.

You can boast when DRDO comes up with something similar. They have been working on that shitty Rustom 2 for as long as i can remember and it looks like a huge plastic toy, which is why we are buying Israeli drones even to this day. Even sanctioned Iran managed to build some weaponized drones and took out an entire oil facility. And as for that stealth DRDO Aura drone, well it still hasn't left the drawing board, we will be talking about it for years to come.

 

[Akasa]

To be fair, any MALE drone that isn't at its operating altitude are susceptible to this kind of attack. Whether the UAE or KSA are using them to the best of their ability is also another question.

 

[Turan09]

They have nothing to be ashamed about. Drones get shot down all the time. You think American drones never got shot down in Afghanistan or Iraq? If they are flying low they aren't exactly hard to shoot down. A sharp shooter could take them out with a machine gun if he is good. Besides, these wu longs or whatever are not exactly state of the art drones, they are cheap copies of predator, Chinese sell a lot of them at a cheap cost and they do the job.

You can boast when DRDO comes up with something similar. They have been working on that shitty Rustom 2 for as long as i can remember and it looks like a huge plastic toy, which is why we are buying Israeli drones even to this day. Even sanctioned Iran managed to build some weaponized drones and took out an entire oil facility. And as for that stealth DRDO Aura drone, well it still hasn't left the drawing board, we will be talking about it for years to come.

Actually, we are trying to say exacly that. Chinese drones are not good as their western counterparts... And they don't has to be that much good anyway... This is free-market, and there is countries who wants to have UCAV's only for 2-3 million dollars. It is a successful business but Chinese guys always saying that ''Our UCAV's are perfect! Equal to Western Technology!'' And all this non-sense, so of course we like to show them the truth. Thats all.
About Indian Drones (Rustom 2 and Aura) You don't have a good record about high technology weapons so I will be sceptical. Like you said propeller-engine Rustom 1 and Rustom-2 is not operational after all this years... And without a propeller-engine UCAV, I don't think you can just produce a jet engine UCAV... This are natural steps...
You might say ''But Russia did it!'' But this is Russia... Not India.

 

[SleeveofWizard]

Actually, we are trying to say exacly that. Chinese drones are not good as their western counterparts... And they don't has to be that much good anyway... This is free-market, and there is countries who wants to have UCAV's only for 2-3 million dollars. It is a successful business but Chinese guys always saying that ''Our UCAV's are perfect! Equal to Western Technology!'' And all this non-sense, so of course we like to show them the truth. Thats all.
About Indian Drones (Rustom 2 and Aura) You don't have a good record about high technology weapons so I will be sceptical. Like you said propeller-engine Rustom-2 is not operational after all this years... And without a propeller-engine UCAV, I don't think you can just produce a jet engine UCAV... This are natural steps...
You might say ''But Russia did it!'' But this is Russia... Not India.

Correct, Chinese drones are just cheap, they are not anywhere close to being the best. They are perfect for small militant groups and small countries that don't want to shell out for expensive NATO standard equipment. Almost all their weapons are reverse engineered copies of either western or russian equipment, so obviously they can never match that.

You are also right about that Rustom 2, it's a horror. Propeller driven, slow and it's not even a combat drone, it's mainly a surveillance drone. You could fit some light weapons on to it with some work, but it will never be good at combat and thus can never be called a combat drone. They will most probably use it for simple tasks like monitoring the loc and militant camps, flying at a very high altitude. Now it would be far fetched to say we cannot build a jet engine combat drone. A country that can send heavy rockets to space, probes to moon and mars and build indigenous combat helicopters and jets can definitely build a jet engine drone. India is actually one of the only countries that can build an actual jet engine, apart from Russia, US and UK. The Kaveri engine will power our next UAVs. It could not be used on our jets since it's thrust was 90kn as opposed to the required 100kn, but it will be more than enough for a UAV. But yes,i expect nothing good out of DRDO. These public sector enterprises can almost never produce anything good in time since they have no accountability. They are lazy and incompetent. The only hope is the private sector. But for now and the next 10 years, we will keep importing Israeli drones.

 

[IblinI]

Actually, we are trying to say exacly that. Chinese drones are not good as their western counterparts... And they don't has to be that much good anyway... This is free-market, and there is countries who wants to have UCAV's only for 2-3 million dollars. It is a successful business but Chinese guys always saying that ''Our UCAV's are perfect! Equal to Western Technology!'' And all this non-sense, so of course we like to show them the truth. Thats all.
About Indian Drones (Rustom 2 and Aura) You don't have a good record about high technology weapons so I will be sceptical. Like you said propeller-engine Rustom 1 and Rustom-2 is not operational after all this years... And without a propeller-engine UCAV, I don't think you can just produce a jet engine UCAV... This are natural steps...
You might say ''But Russia did it!'' But this is Russia... Not India.

looks like a Turkish party here?Cmon, its just some male drones, what did you guys says when a RQ–04 was shot down by iranian?
We have high end drone like Soar dragon, WZ8, Divine egale, plus I don't recall any Chinese claimed our drone are “perfect”.

 

[lonelyman]

looks like a Turkish party here?Cmon, its just some male drones, what did you guys says when a RQ–04 was shot down by iranian?
We have high end drone like Soar dragon, WZ8, Divine egale, plus I don't recall any Chinese claimed our drone are “perfect”.

Typical circle jerking here, you can shot down any drones with a missile

Even USA drone brought down by Iran

 

[Chellam]

They have nothing to be ashamed about. Drones get shot down all the time. You think American drones never got shot down in Afghanistan or Iraq? If they are flying low they aren't exactly hard to shoot down. A sharp shooter could take them out with a machine gun if he is good. Besides, these wu longs or whatever are not exactly state of the art drones, they are cheap copies of predator, Chinese sell a lot of them at a cheap cost and they do the job.

You can boast when DRDO comes up with something similar. They have been working on that shitty Rustom 2 for as long as i can remember and it looks like a huge plastic toy, which is why we are buying Israeli drones even to this day. Even sanctioned Iran managed to build some weaponized drones and took out an entire oil facility. And as for that stealth DRDO Aura drone, well it still hasn't left the drawing board, we will be talking about it for years to come.

I know those story, i am telling that they are here only for talk about their win and CCP Propaganda

there is no shame in this every one knows that and even iran shot down american drone 2-3 month back.

 

[MMM-E]

you can shot down any drones with a missile

Chinese UCAV was shoot down with Turkish LASER Weapon
its the first time in the World

Chinese UCAVs are with low quality electro-optics

 

[Turan09]

Typical circle jerking here, you can shot down any drones with a missile

Even USA drone brought down by Iran

Yes, One Drone shot down and a reaper was seized by Iran If I am not mistaken. And One Turkish Bayraktar shot down by PYD in Syria. But only One.
But still Chinese drones are dying like flies in Libya and Yemen. Jordan wants to get rid of it. Pakistan was able to crash one of them in trials. (Not maiden flight, it was a trial) Don't take it as insult, but there is still a long way for you to reach western quality. You guys are just overprotective about your products, and it's annoys us... Our point is ''you can't sell a quality UCAV for this price.'' That's all.

Correct, Chinese drones are just cheap, they are not anywhere close to being the best. They are perfect for small militant groups and small countries that don't want to shell out for expensive NATO standard equipment. Almost all their weapons are reverse engineered copies of either western or russian equipment, so obviously they can never match that.

You are also right about that Rustom 2, it's a horror. Propeller driven, slow and it's not even a combat drone, it's mainly a surveillance drone. You could fit some light weapons on to it with some work, but it will never be good at combat and thus can never be called a combat drone. They will most probably use it for simple tasks like monitoring the loc and militant camps, flying at a very high altitude. Now it would be far fetched to say we cannot build a jet engine combat drone. A country that can send heavy rockets to space, probes to moon and mars and build indigenous combat helicopters and jets can definitely build a jet engine drone. India is actually one of the only countries that can build an actual jet engine, apart from Russia, US and UK. The Kaveri engine will power our next UAVs. It could not be used on our jets since it's thrust was 90kn as opposed to the required 100kn, but it will be more than enough for a UAV. But yes,i expect nothing good out of DRDO. These public sector enterprises can almost never produce anything good in time since they have no accountability. They are lazy and incompetent. The only hope is the private sector. But for now and the next 10 years, we will keep importing Israeli drones.

I don't know... But UCAV is not an easy technology. Look at to Israel for example. They began with tactical UAVs (Searcher etc) After all this years now they have Heron-TP Eitan... Turkey started with mini-UAV's... We designed tactical UAV's after that... (Bayraktar) After all this years now we have Aksungur, And soon we will have Akinci and Mius (Jet powered)
Could we just skip all this steps and directly go for Akıncı and MIUS? My anwer is no. Maybe you can create a miracle, but most probably you will fail. This is my personal opinion, and don't take it as an insult.

 

[IblinI]

Chinese UCAV was shoot down with Turkish LASER Weapon
its the first time in the World

Chinese UCAVs are with low quality electro-optics

Don't start this again, I can throw you a list of Chinese projects which I believed Turkey is not going to have in the near future or forever, but I am not going to do it, I am not a chest thumper like you after all.

 

[lonelyman]

Yes, One Drone shot down and a reaper was seized by Iran If I am not mistaken. And One Turkish Bayraktar shot down by PYD in Syria. But only One.
But still Chinese drones are dying like flies in Libya and Yemen. Jordan wants to get rid of it. Pakistan was able to crash one of them in trials. (Not maiden flight, it was a trial) Don't take it as insult, but there is still a long way for you to reach western quality. You guys are just overprotective about your products, and it's annoys us... Our point is ''you can't sell a quality UCAV for this price.'' That's all.


I don't know... But UCAV is not an easy technology. Look at to Israel for example. They began with tactical UAVs (Searcher etc) After all this years now they have Heron-TP Eitan... Turkey started with mini-UAV's... We designed tactical UAV's after that... (Bayraktar) After all this years now we have Aksungur, And soon we will have Akinci and Mius (Jet powered)
Could we just skip all this steps and directly go for Akıncı and MIUS? My anwer is no. Maybe you can create a miracle, but most probably you will fail. This is my personal opinion, and don't take it as an insult.

No use no damage, you don’t hear turkey cars crash because nobody is using them and you don’t make them, simple as that

What western quality, if you are willing to pay the same price, I can guarantee Chinese quality are better. You are only paying 1/5 of price, but expect the same specs?

Don't start this again, I can throw you a list of Chinese projects which I believed Turkey is not going to have in the near future or forever, but I am not going to do it, I am not a chest thumper like you after all.

Bullshit laser story, only fools believe this

 

[MMM-E]

Don't start this again, I can throw you a list of Chinese projects which I believed Turkey is not going to have in the near future or forever, but I am not going to do it, I am not a chest thumper like you after all

We dont care about Chinese projects
except nuclear weapons , Turkey develops everything and better quality than Chinese

We use them in real combat areas , Iraq,Syria,Libya

 

[IblinI]

We dont care about Chinese projects
except nuclear weapons , Turkey develops everything and better quality than Chinese

We use them in real combat areas , Iraq,Syria,Libya

OK, have a good day and hope you dont get ban this time with your ultra project list.

 

[PeacefulWar]

Chinese UCAV was shoot down with Turkish LASER Weapon
its the first time in the World

Chinese UCAVs are with low quality electro-optics

If I get your logic right here, you logic is: the drone was possibly shot down by TURKEY system, not by USA system, not by Russia system! But by Turkey system! The deone must be really bad.

Well, I can't argue that! Who can. By a Turkey system, hahaha!
Our researcher must improve it immediately! Can shot down by a Turkey system? Even it's just an un-proved thing, it's still a shame!