Turkey uses laser weapon technology to shoot down Chinese UAV Wing Loong II in Libya

[MMM-E]

Well, I can't argue that! Who can. By a Turkey system, hahaha!

keep crying , hahahaha

Turkish LASER Weapon turned Chinese UCAV into crap of metal

 

[Turan09]

No use no damage, you don’t hear turkey cars crash because nobody is using them and you don’t make them, simple as that

What western quality, if you are willing to pay the same price, I can guarantee Chinese quality are better. You are only paying 1/5 of price, but expect the same specs?



Bullshit laser story, only fools believe this

Actually, Turkey uses more than 140 -150 UCAV's himself. Any crash report? (1 ANKA crashed during maiden flight in 2013 and a Bayraktar TB-2 Shot by PYD in Syria. Thats it. 2 or maybe 3 UCAV's from more than 140 UCAV's.
Ukraine and Qatar has 6 for each. No problems, no one is trying to get rid of them like Jordan. No crash. Even in Libya, we saw 3 or 4 destroyed Chinese UCAV's. Did you see any destroyed Bayraktar TB-2 yet?
Turkey is not a communist authoritarian state, if a UCAV or a helicopter or anything crashed, we hear it only in 2 hours. It is not a secret.
Maybe, if you produce a UCAV that cost that much money like western systems, it might be reliable. Maybe. But today your state doesnt do that therefore your UCAV's are inferior. That's it. It is not personal but it is the bitter truth for you, like it or not.

 

[PeacefulWar]

keep crying , hahahaha

Turkish LASER Weapon turned Chinese UCAV into crap of metal

Take one step back, let's assume it was somehow shockingly shot down by Turkey laser system.
In this case, UAE paid the money and tested and collected data so that China can improve it, I don't know why I would cry...
It's the way how R&D works.

Actually, Turkey uses more than 140 -150 UCAV's himself. Any crash report? (1 ANKA crashed during maiden flight in 2013 and a Bayraktar TB-2 Shot by PYD in Syria. Thats it. 2 or maybe 3 UCAV's from more than 140 UCAV's.
Ukraine and Qatar has 6 for each. No problems, no one is trying to get rid of them like Jordan. No crash. Even in Libya, we saw 3 or 4 destroyed Chinese UCAV's. Did you see any destroyed Bayraktar TB-2 yet?
Turkey is not a communist authoritarian state, if a UCAV or a helicopter or anything crashed, we hear it only in 2 hours. It is not a secret.
Maybe, if you produce a UCAV that cost that much money like western systems, it might be reliable. Maybe. But today your state doesnt do that therefore your UCAV's are inferior. That's it. It is not personal but it is the bitter truth for you, like it or not.

With respect to Turky's progress in defence tech, I would like to point out this highly depends who are you fighting with.
Drones need air superiority to work as of today.

 

[mustafa erkan]

Chinese UCAVs are with low quality electro-optics

The real important fact is if it has hit by a manpad ,it was flying under 20 000 feet. I think at night missions they are flying Low and it is related with their optics.
Every UAV can hit by missiles but hitting by manpad is important. If it is true their night missions wont be so dangerous for Libya legal goverment's forces.

 

[Turan09]

Take one step back, let's assume it was somehow shockingly shot down by Turkey laser system.
In this case, UAE paid the money and tested and collected data so that China can improve it, I don't know why I would cry...
It's the way how R&D works.


With respect to Turky's progress in defence tech, I would like to point out this highly depends who are you fighting with.
Drones need air superiority to work as of today.

True. But If we look at to Libya. Haftar had more jets than LNA and some sources claim UAE is using his own jets to bomb LNA... It wouldnt be surprise after all they used all this wing loong's there already without a second thought.
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...rplanes-hit-Tripoli-government-positions.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/05/africa/libya-uae-migrant-center-intl/index.html
But military strategies chance things a lot. For example,
As a tactical light UCAV, Bayraktar's didnt use the airports in Libya (That would make them easy target) we used regular roads to Launch Bayraktar. After that, it flied like a ghost. Striked the enemy and came back to the its truck. Trucks moved all day, so enemy wouldnt know where it is, there is reports that, UAE tried to follow Bayraktars with Wing Loong's but they couldnt catch any while we bomb them as we wish. And they had to use airports after all MALE drones are not that much mobile.
Why am I telling you this? Because if you produce your own systems and prepare a good strategy, a light UCAV like Bayraktar can be more useful than enemies MALE drones. And We are Proud of it.
And A note, I don't have any problem with Chinese Technology. You do copy weapons, so what? It is your strategy and I respect that. You are better than us in many things, I am okay with that too. But about Propeller UCAV's You are not good like western systems. Otherwise this is not a personal vandetta. Just like I said, Your overprotection annoys us, thats all.

 

[IblinI]

True. But If we look at to Libya. Haftar had more jets than LNA and some sources claim UAE is using his own jets to bomb LNA... It wouldnt be surprise after all they used all this wing loong's there already without a second thought.
https://english.alarabiya.net/en/Ne...rplanes-hit-Tripoli-government-positions.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/07/05/africa/libya-uae-migrant-center-intl/index.html
But military strategies chance things a lot. For example,
As a tactical light UCAV, Bayraktar's didnt use the airports in Libya (That would make them easy target) we used regular roads to Launch Bayraktar. After that, it flied like a ghost. Striked the enemy and came back to the its truck. Trucks moved all day, so enemy wouldnt know where it is, there is reports that, UAE tried to follow Bayraktars with Wing Loong's but they couldnt catch any while we bomb them as we wish. And they had to use airports after all MALE drones are not that much mobile.
Why am I telling you this? Because if you produce your own systems and prepare a good strategy, a light UCAV like Bayraktar can be more useful than enemies MALE drones. And We are Proud of it.
And A note, I don't have any problem with Chinese Technology. You do copy weapons, so what? It is your strategy and I respect that. You are better than us in many things, I am okay with that too. But about Propeller UCAV's You are not good like western systems. Otherwise this is not a personal vandetta. Just like I said, Your overprotection annoys us, thats all.

So a country with two types of ucav B and Anka in service which is in equavilent of at most CH-3 and CH-4 level is somehow having an upper hand in drone technology than a country that has almost all types of drone from HALE drone, near space supersonic recon drone to small one like ucav.

 

[dBSPL]

China is provider of system, But operator is UAE . Even if you build a superior weapon system, the operator's level of training and usage authorizations are becoming an increasingly critical issue. Because even when dealing with an asymmetric threat, you may encounter very serious countermeasure systems, today.

The adequacy of Chinese systems is also an issue that needs to be addressed in detail. But here, the soldiers who operating this system in Libya are members of one of the most incompetent military organizations in the world.

Many gulf countries have used even foreign pilots on combat aircraft for many years. It seems, UCAV operations have the same shortcomings.

 

[cabatli_53]

Bayraktar TB2 is a tactical drone which is relatively small one compared to MALE drones but There is not a similar tactical drone out of TB2 which can reach the performance specs of MALE drones. That makes Bayraktar TB2 one of the best tactical drone in its class. 27000ft altitude and 30h duration on air is impressive figures. Bayraktar TB2 stayed around 27h on air cause of very hot weather conditions in Kuwait trials but It can stay aroun 30h in Turkiye. (Chinese CH-4 can stay 30h and climb around 24000ft altitude) Israeli Aerostar is the most famous tactical drone in the World and It can perform 12h endurance and 18000ft altitude.

 

[MMM-E]

So a country with two types of ucav B and Anka in service which is in equavilent of at most CH-3 and CH-4 level is somehow having an upper hand in drone technology than a country that has almost all types of drone from HALE drone, near space supersonic recon drone to small one like ucav.

Dont compare your low quality Chinese Weapons with high quality NATO standart Turkish Weapons


How many countries do have UCAVs like AKINCI ? 3 or 4 ?

Length : 12,3 m
Height : 4,1 m
Wingspan: 20 m
MTOW : 4.500 kg
Payload : 1350 kg
Service ceiling : 40.000 feet

-- SATCOM
-- Multirole AESA Radar ( air search , Synthetic Aperture , weather )
-- Electronic Data Gathering ( ELINT / COMINT )
-- MAM-L laser guided smart munition
-- GOKTUG Air to Air Missile
-- TEBER , KGK and HGK guided bombs
-- SOM Cruise Missile

soon coming soon

 

[mustafa erkan]

So a country with two types of ucav B and Anka in service which is in equavilent of at most CH-3 and CH-4 level is somehow having an upper hand in drone technology than a country that has almost all types of drone from HALE drone, near space supersonic recon drone to small one like ucav.

You may have all sort of drones but the real question how effective they are against rivals?
UAE use wing long II which is yours but we prefer startegic class one (not male class ANKA) that can use regular roads and easy to maintenance.If you dont get the importance of it its your choice which makes me happy.
Everytime we are trying to develop best one in its class thats why we sometimes unmercifully criticize our own prejects.

 

[IblinI]

Dont compare your low quality Chinese Weapons with high quality NATO standart Turkish Weapons


How many countries do have UCAVs like AKINCI ? 3 or 4 ?

Length : 12,3 m
Height : 4,1 m
Wingspan: 20 m
MTOW : 4.500 kg
Payload : 1350 kg
Service ceiling : 40.000 feet

-- SATCOM
-- Multirole AESA Radar ( air search , Synthetic Aperture , weather )
-- Electronic Data Gathering ( ELINT / COMINT )
-- MAM-L laser guided smart munition
-- GOKTUG Air to Air Missile
-- TEBER , KGK and HGK guided bombs
-- SOM Cruise Missile

Chill man, really don't want to get you ban again, so come back when it is in active service, bye for now.

 

[MMM-E]

Chill man, really don't want to get you ban again, so come back when it is in active service, bye for now.

You can only cry to Mods , nothing else

Your UCAVs projects are full of concept ,,
HALE drone, near space supersonic recon drone ? so come back when it is in active service, bye for now

 

[IblinI]

You can only cry to Mods , nothing else

Your UCAVs projects are full of concept ,,
HALE drone, near space supersonic recon drone ? so come back when it is in active service, bye for now

Concept???

 

[MMM-E]

Concept???

 

[IblinI]

In active service, end of the discussion.