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Turkey To Join Coalition Against ISIS ?

@C130

You invaded Iraq and destroyed it in the last decade, give Iran power in Iraq, let extremist group rise in Iraq through power vaccuum...... YOU broke it........ YOU fix it...

Don't give me that NATO bullcrap. True allies don't mess up a NATO bordering country and then let us pay the price. No Turkish soldier will die for American wars. Iraq is American problem now. You killed 1 million innocent Iraqi in the last decade. The least you could do is to put your shoulders under the weight. Fix Iraq and Syria like it was before and then leave it to us.
 
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@C130

You invaded Iraq and destroyed it in the last decade, give Iran power in Iraq, let extremist group rise in Iraq through power vaccuum...... YOU broke it........ YOU fix it...

Don't give me that NATO bullcrap. True allies don't mess up a NATO bordering country and then let us pay the price. No Turkish soldier will die for American wars. Iraq is American problem now. You killed 1 million innocent Iraqi in the last decade. The least you could do is to put your shoulders under the weight. Fix Iraq and Syria like it was before and then leave it to us.

Turkish government declared that it wont participate in military operations. On the other hand, Turkish government would do anything necessary to prevent border crossings.
 
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Turkish government declared that it wont participate in military operations. On the other hand, Turkish government would do anything necessary to prevent border crossings.
that is the best plan of action..
 
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it's our duty to protect American interests no matter what

we gonna do what we gonna do. you with us or against us bro

Why does this sound similar to Pakistan and WOT in the famous phone call?
 
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This is Not our War
@C130

You invaded Iraq and destroyed it in the last decade, give Iran power in Iraq, let extremist group rise in Iraq through power vaccuum...... YOU broke it........ YOU fix it...

Don't give me that NATO bullcrap. True allies don't mess up a NATO bordering country and then let us pay the price. No Turkish soldier will die for American wars. Iraq is American problem now. You killed 1 million innocent Iraqi in the last decade. The least you could do is to put your shoulders under the weight. Fix Iraq and Syria like it was before and then leave it to us.
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what does they want from us we gived them (Nato and USA) so much US would never NEVER give us so much as we gived them!

we lost Iraq! that hurt our economy.. we are just coming up from this misery.. always doing things against us and we say nothing keeping the "frindship"

and if we ask for weapons.. they give us the old shit..

and now US supports our enemys twice first they supported IS against assad then they support kurds against IS.. and we idiots should help them? WE SHOULD HELP PUSHTMERGA?

my opinion is IS could be a permanent force in thin region.. so we could have some kind of relationship with them.. they are a mess and pain in the butt but if they don't touch us they could touch kurds and iran.. so let them kill each other

sometimes I think give IS weapons against Kurds and Iran.. train them , but IS is nothing more than dogs they would bite your hand and more.. so things are good as they are now.. many idiots fighting against each other why should we join them? that would weaken us
 
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Turkey May Play Quiet Role In US Coalition Against ISIS


(Reuters) - Turkey may find it hard to play a public role in the coalition the United States is building to strike at Islamic State targets in Iraq and possiblySyria for fear the militant group might retaliate against dozens of Turks held hostage.

President Barack Obama has said he hopes to devise a regional strategy to try to counter IS, which has seized swathes of territory in Iraq and Syria, but current and former U.S. officials say they expect Turkey to avoid any major public role.

An ally in the U.S.-led NATO military alliance, Turkey is the only Muslim nation in a "core coalition" of 10 countries committed to battle IS militants in Iraq that the United States announced on Friday at the NATO summit in Newport, Wales.

It is unclear to what extent the coalition may target IS in Syria, where the Islamist militants enjoy safe haven.

The bulwark of NATO's southeastern flank, Turkey has sensitive relations with seven sometimes unstable neighbors, bordering not only Syria, the origin of the IS threat, but Iraq, where the Islamist group took dozens of Turks hostage.

IS is holding some 46 Turkish citizens hostage, including diplomats seized from the Turkish consulate in Mosul when it overran Iraq's second-largest city in June.

In deference to Turkey's predicament, Washington aims to have Ankara focus on halting the flow of foreign militants, including many from the United States and Western Europe, who have crossed its territory to join the fight in Syria.

"Everybody understands that the Turks are in a special category," said a U.S. official on condition of anonymity, alluding to the safety of Turkey's hostages and the reluctance of one neighbor to attack another for fear of retaliation.

"Turkey will be part of the coalition but what does that mean? It doesn't cost much to get your flag up on the wall."


A second official said Washington would ask Ankara to do more to keep foreign fighters out of Syria, a message Obama delivered diplomatically on Friday and Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel is expected to echo in Turkey next week.

When he met Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan in Newport, Obama told reporters: "I want to express my appreciation for the cooperation between U.S. and Turkish both military and intelligence services in dealing with the issue of foreign fighters, an area where we still have more work to do."

Turkey has long sought to spur the United States to greater action to end the 3-1/2-year-old Syrian civil war in which an estimated 200,000 people have died.

Turkey has drawn up a "no-entry" list of 6,000 people suspected of seeking to join "extremists in Syria" based on information from foreign intelligence agencies, Turkish officials have said.

"The foreign fighter issue is well-known. It’s a problem. It's certainly fueling ... their advance in Syria and in Iraq," said the second U.S. official. "That would certainly be something that we would look for help from Turkey on."

BEHEADINGS A MESSAGE TO TURKEY, TOO

The Islamic State's lightning advance across Iraq led Obama to resume air strikes in the country in August for the first time since he withdrew U.S. troops in 2011. As of Thursday, the United States had carried out 127 such strikes.

Expectations have grown that he may target IS in Syria. In addition to sending Hagel to Turkey he is dispatching Secretary of State John Kerry to the Middle East next week to corral coalition partners.

Turkey's dilemma illustrates the sort of challenges that Kerry faces pulling together an active coalition among states with very different interests and constraints in the region.

Reflecting the sensitivity of the issue in Turkey, Turkish officials have privately stressed that none of the U.S. aircraft attacking Iraq came from Incirlik Air Base in southern Turkey.

"They will not allow the use of Incirlik for lethal air strikes," said Henri Barkey, a Lehigh University professor and former member of the State Department policy planning staff.


"The Foley execution was a message not just to us, but also to the Turks," he added, referring to an IS video released on Aug. 19 that showed a masked fighter beheading U.S. journalist James Foley. A video showing the execution of a second U.S. journalist, Steven Sotloff, became public on Tuesday.

While stressing their commitment to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, which Turkey joined in 1952, Turkish officials voiced an unwillingness to jeopardize their hostages.

"We are a NATO ally. We share the same principles and values with the West. But we have our 46 hostages," said one Turkish official who spoke on condition of anonymity.

A Western diplomat in Ankara said: "They are hamstrung. They can’t, understandably really, sign up with enthusiasm to military action. I’m sure privately they are supportive but they ... don’t feel they’re able to come down definitively in public."

U.S.-based analysts, including retired Lieutenant General David Barno, a former top U.S. commander in Afghanistan, said Turkey could help behind the scenes by allowing tankers, reconnaissance planes and drones to operate from its territory.

"It’s a higher probability they might be willing to use those bases for non-lethal activities ... as opposed to aircraft carrying bombs," said Barno, who is now at the Center for a New American Security think tank in Washington.

To go after IS targets in Syria, however, countries such as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and others may need to be convinced of U.S. staying power despite Obama's reluctance to get involved in another Middle East war.

"Anybody who is going to give serious thought, and ultimately agree to join a coalition, must be utterly convinced by the president of the United States that the United States is there for the duration, that nobody is going to be left hanging out to dry," said Fred Hof, a former State Department Syria expert.

Turkey May Play Quiet Role In US Coalition Against ISIS
 
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If Turkey is to join the fight against these savage bedouin barbarians, it should ensure northern Iraq & Kurdish region joins as with it as an autonomous coonfederation. This will ensure safety for sunni's and kurds. Southern Iraq could form a confederation with Iran which will guarantee the safety of Shia minorities. This would make two civilized nations in the region strong regional players . Lack of powerful core state/states is a cause of power vacuum in the region which causes these savages to rise their head over and over again.
Time for Turks & Iranians to expand their influence and check the savages.
 
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If Turkey is to join the fight against these savage bedouin barbarians, it should ensure northern Iraq & Kurdish region joins as with it as an autonomous coonfederation. This will ensure safety for sunni's and kurds. Southern Iraq could form a confederation with Iran which will guarantee the safety of Shia minorities. This would make two civilized nations in the region strong regional players . Lack of powerful core state/states is a cause of power vacuum in the region which causes these savages to rise their head over and over again.
Time for Turks & Iranians to expand their influence and check the savages.

Who said that we want a confederation with Kurds?
 
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Kurds won't become independent any time soon. Only way for them to live would be as part of a bigger neighbor with a degree of self rule/autonomy.

We dont want anymore Kurds. A typical Kurd has nothing to do with us, Turks at all. They are the part of Iraq. They should obey iraqi government.

Btw we are not Sunni. We are Turks.
 
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German media says there is a coalition of 10 NATO countrys and Turkey is one of them.
 
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@C130

You invaded Iraq and destroyed it in the last decade, give Iran power in Iraq, let extremist group rise in Iraq through power vaccuum...... YOU broke it........ YOU fix it...

Don't give me that NATO bullcrap. True allies don't mess up a NATO bordering country and then let us pay the price. No Turkish soldier will die for American wars. Iraq is American problem now. You killed 1 million innocent Iraqi in the last decade. The least you could do is to put your shoulders under the weight. Fix Iraq and Syria like it was before and then leave it to us.

Turkey supports IS with money and advanced weapons. IS using Kornet E against Iraqi tanks. Who do you think gave it to them?! Turkey purchased some 200 or 300 Kornet E launchers some years ago.

This is the son of your new president Erdogan, together with an IS commander.

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US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel in talks with Turkish officials against ISIL

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U.S. Secretary of Defense Chuck Hagel has begun talks with Turkish officials over the common threat posed by extremist jihadists in Iraq and Syria as Washington suggested the formation of a coalition to destroy the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL).

Hagel met with Turkey’s top soldier, Chief of General Staff Gen. Necdet Özel, at the military headquarters early Sept. 8 before his scheduled meetings with President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu.

Hagel’s visit comes at a crucial moment as U.S. President Barack Obama will announce Washington’s strategy against ISIL on Sept. 10. Obama called on Sunni countries, like Turkey, Jordan and Saudi Arabia, to participate in the international community’s efforts to dislodge the jihadists. Obama’s call followed his suggestion for the formation of a core group in the fight against ISIL that includes Turkey, along with other Western powers.

Hagel was expected to repeat Obama’s call to Turkish officials and discuss ways to deepen cooperation.

US Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel in talks with Turkish officials against ISIL - DIPLOMACY
 
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