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Turkey and Hungary should be suspended from NATO

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Turkiye fought Russia in Libya and Syria
Don't tear a sock from the fighting with the Russians.


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Then get onto the Italians to make FH70 howitzers again. Cheap.

Not only to defend from Turkey. If Turkey is expelled from NATO, the Aegean Islands can be stocked with long range artillery and hit Russian ships (or hit invading Turkish ships), providing similar defense that Turkey provides with the straits.
Towed howitzers are easy target for the Turks.
Greece since 90s, has invested in to the Self-propelled(700 howitzers ) and Rockets units(150 launchers).

Greek oiltankers are responsible for transport of like %90 of Russian oil. Lets talk about that Mr.

So what? There are no ΝΑΤΟ or EU sunctions for such kind transfers.
 
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Then get onto the Italians to make FH70 howitzers again. Cheap.

Not only to defend from Turkey. If Turkey is expelled from NATO, the Aegean Islands can be stocked with long range artillery and hit Russian ships (or hit invading Turkish ships), providing similar defense that Turkey provides with the straits.
You dreaming since last 700 years right? Greeks know turks. They will face the fire you guys could not do nothing when turky and Azerbaijan defeated armina. You guys could not safe Ukraine. You want Greeks get killed way Ukrainens are getting killed good look. Seriously you need 100 guns salute. Infact you must be used as bomb
 
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Give them 7 billions as per promised. And you with nato go and bumb their countries. Barvoo. Now I know you not original Greek lol
Oh yeah? NATO bombed Pakistan? NATO bombed Somalia? NATO bombed Nigeria? Algeria,Tunisia,Morocco? Didn't Americans spend billions trying to rebuild Afghanistan and the Afghans couldn't rule the country?

It's so easy blaming the West for everything.
 
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If you think you've fought Russia...what can I say...

maybe your useless Greece,Germany,France fought Russia in Syria and Libya



Don't tear a sock from the fighting with the Russians.

We are fighting Russia,Iran,Syrian Regime since 2015
We lost even 35 soldiers in Russian air strike
and Turkiye backed FSA killed hundreds of Russian soldiers including Generals

Russian army fled in panic after Turkish attack on Idlib
 
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In order to be credible, a defensive military alliance requires the common confidence of its members that, should one member be attacked, other members will provide it with decisive support. Whatever other interests they may have with the United States and its NATO allies, it is now obvious that Turkey and Hungary cannot fulfill this expectation. Both nations should be suspended from the alliance, writes Tom Rogan in an article in the Washington Examiner.
Remarks, tha the most immediate cause for Turkey's suspension is its obstruction of Finland and Sweden in their effort to join NATO.

Neither Orban nor Erdogan is "strengthening their free institutions" as article 2 mention. On the contrary, both leaders have expanded state media dominance at the expense of truly free discourse. Both have cracked down on dissenting minority voices, politicians and activists, and nongovernmental organizations. Erdogan has thrown hundreds of journalists in prison, some simply because he says they insulted him.

Under Article 3, a member commits to "maintain and develop their individual and collective capacity to resist armed attack." Erdogan has shredded this commitment with his purchase of Russia's S-400 air defense system, which is specifically designed to destroy NATO air forces. Doing so, Erdogan weakened NATO's credibility and endangered its aircrews. Orban has shredded this commitment with his embrace of Russian intelligence activity and his undermining of European sanctions imposed on Russia. Those sanctions support NATO security by imposing costs for Putin's aggression in Ukraine and thus deterring the Russian leader's further aggression.

Under Article 8, a member "undertakes not to enter into any international engagement in conflict with this Treaty."
Turkey has broken this pledge with the aforementioned S-400 purchase and Erdogan's demand that Sweden abandon its free speech laws and extradite people without regard for due process. Of equal note are Erdogan's threats toward fellow NATO member Greece, his wars of conquest in Syria, and his military support of Azerbaijan against Armenia. Yes, Turkey has legitimate grievances with regard to Kurdish terrorist groups in Iraq and Syria. But Erdogan's fetish for indiscriminate bombings is unacceptable.
Hungary has broken this pledge with its undermining of European sanctions and Orban's service as Xi and Putin's viceroy/servant boy within NATO and the European Union.

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Hi,

I would suggest that you should be "BANNED" from this forum---.

Turkey stood as a buffer against soviet unionfor decades when your legs were shaking..
 
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Oh yeah? NATO bombed Pakistan? NATO bombed Somalia? NATO bombed Nigeria? Algeria,Tunisia,Morocco? Didn't Americans spend billions trying to rebuild Afghanistan and the Afghans couldn't rule the country?

It's so easy blaming the West for everything.
Nato ran like ad dog
Oh yeah? NATO bombed Pakistan? NATO bombed Somalia? NATO bombed Nigeria? Algeria,Tunisia,Morocco? Didn't Americans spend billions trying to rebuild Afghanistan and the Afghans couldn't rule the country?

It's so easy blaming the West for everything.
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In all out war TR can mobilize 20 million soldiers how many can Sweden and Finland? Better yet how many can E.U mobilise combined?

Swedish blond hair and meatballs (which is Turkish) wont save you in war.
 
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I would suggest that you should be "BANNED" from this forum---.

The reason for the suggestion?

Turkey stood as a buffer against soviet unionfor decades when your legs were shaking..
It was not only Turkey, but also other countries that were as buffer to the soviet communism.
And my country was involved in a civil war with the communist lovers in the 40s (and during World War II), so please inform better.
As far as Turkey is concerned, it has changed its behavior in the last decade, during the Erdogan era. This is what the columnist points out, which you apparently did not understand.
 
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maybe your useless Greece,Germany,France fought Russia in Syria and Libya





We are fighting Russia,Iran,Syrian Regime since 2015
We lost even 35 soldiers in Russian air strike
and Turkiye backed FSA killed hundreds of Russian soldiers including Generals

Russian army fled in panic after Turkish attack on Idlib
The same trash video you've posted before here...because you're boring.
 
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So what? There are no ΝΑΤΟ or EU sunctions for such kind transfers.

legal or not .. Greece support Russia
still hypocrite Greeks says Turkiye doesnt fight Russia

The West has sanctioned Russia over its invasion of Ukraine, but Russian oil continues to flow to Europe via maritime routes

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The same trash video you've posted before here...because you're boring.

I always kicking liar Greeks
 
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Hi,

I would suggest that you should be "BANNED" from this forum---.

Turkey stood as a buffer against soviet unionfor decades when your legs were shaking..
A buffer against the Soviet Union? Turkey that traditionally had good relations with the Soviet Union you mean? Hahahaha!

Meanwhile Greece stood as a bastion against Albania,Yugoslavia and Bulgaria AND FOUGHT A REAL CIVIL WAR AGAINST COMMUNIST GUERILLAS AIDED BY THESE COUNTRIES.

You can be an Ertugrul fanboy,but don't put Turkey before Pakistan.
 
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