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Turkey and Hungary should be suspended from NATO

Are you masturbating with these phrases every day? Do you go to the mirror and tell them to yourself? Do you walk and mumble the same stuff?
Cavusoglu almost said the same today, in his response to the former US Secretary of State Pompeo. From there you can understand that brainwashing is without a cure.

Greece needs to build their own artillery. If Greece can do one thing for the EU, is make cold war era towed howitzers. You make ships, make artillery.
What do you mean her own artillery?
 
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another loser dreaming website
give us a source from NATO , not from losers
You have a serious problem accepting facts as truth and you prefer suitable lies that make you feel better.

Open very open for central South and midel eastern powers like 700 years ago it was. Turkey is acting as buferzoon state for Greeks. Kicking out turky. Only loser I see is Greek very open for conquers
You're probably not aware that Erdogan had tried many times to push tens of thousands of immigrants and refugees to us. And in 2020 there was a big and serious effort to breach the land border. You probably don't know that.

Greece needs to build their own artillery. If Greece can do one thing for the EU, is make cold war era towed howitzers. You make ships, make artillery.
We could make a lot of things,if there's will from the government and investments from outside.

Sweden and Finland are more useful to NATO than Turkey. Turkey is not going to fight Russia. Turkey only protects the Mediterranean sea from Russian black Sea fleet and Georgia from Russian attack because Turkey can fight to defend Georgia in a NATO war vs Russia.
Turks wouldn't fight Russia. They're just backstabbing both NATO and Russia.
 
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You have a serious problem accepting facts as truth and you prefer suitable lies that make you feel better.

Stupid trolls shows dreams of anti-Turkiye losers to make them feel good

what about NATO ?
NATO says about it to kick Turkiye out off the Alliance ? NO


Turks wouldn't fight Russia. They're just backstabbing both NATO and Russia.

Turkiye -Russia fought in Syria and Libya .. idiots
but ERDOGAN-PUTIN keep the balance and continue the relationship
 
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Does it make sense to be in school and say you want to be strong against the bully. Then you start to bully other kids. No. Turkey is useful to the bullies. When Turkey's usefulness expires from making too many enemies, the bigger bullies are going to bully Turkey and eliminate it. Hence, Turkey on a mad rush to re-arm.
Lets think for moment after kicking turkey out of nato. You force turks as former ottomans with iran former Persians with formers Mugals empires Pakistan with Chinese and Russian. Other side what you want to gain Sweden and Finland. Your borders will back on pre ottomans era. Open very open for central South and midel eastern powers like 700 years ago it was. Turkey is acting as buferzoon state for Greeks. Kicking out turky. Only loser I see is Greek very open for conquers
Actually it would force NATO to defend Greece if there is a war between Greece and Turkey. Kicking Turkey out and Greece staying in the EU and NATO and Greece is safe.

This is where the Greeks are foolish. Trump/Pompeo/Putin want to end the EU and NATO. The two main defensive pacts that Greece is part of that would defend Greece.


Why Trump and his team want to wipe out the EU
Pompeo’s wooing of eastern European states is an attack on the union’s very existence



Trump/Putin/Pompeo/US/Russia/UK don't give two ****s about Greece. Putin wants Europe/EU to be destroyed. A group of nations that have to defend each other. Greeks believe because jewish zionist criminal Putin lights candles in churches, that Putin is their god-king. Putin wants to destroy NATO and EU, leave Greece defenseless.

Greeks are totally blind to this because they were on the UK side of the two world wars. Therefore can't see as far as the noses on their face.

Trump wants to destroy the EU & NATO
Pompeo wants to destroy the EU & NATO
Putin wants to destroy the EU & NATO
 
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You have a serious problem accepting facts as truth and you prefer suitable lies that make you feel better.


You're probably not aware that Erdogan had tried many times to push tens of thousands of immigrants and refugees to us. And in 2020 there was a big and serious effort to breach the land border. You probably don't know that.


We could make a lot of things,if there's will from the government and investments from outside.


Turks wouldn't fight Russia. They're just backstabbing both NATO and Russia.
I know more then anyone as my family member works with uno in Greek.. look you can not stop human and birds migration from one place to other. You dont own this mother earth. How lon g you going to live 50 years or mex 100 years. This earth has taken many like you. We dont own this earth. We are here as passengers. We stop here for while and we leave. May be your ancestors were Persians from Central Asia or may be from Germany.. you never know
 
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Greece needs to build their own artillery. If Greece can do one thing for the EU, is make cold war era towed howitzers. You make ships, make artillery.

Sweden and Finland are more useful to NATO than Turkey. Turkey is not going to fight Russia. Turkey only protects the Mediterranean sea from Russian black Sea fleet and Georgia from Russian attack because Turkey can fight to defend Georgia in a NATO war vs Russia.

Finland can fight Russia and be more useful than the USA in a real NATO vs Russia war.

Except Washington is letting Erdogan make enemies with neighbors. You have Qatar for energy. Your enemy is not in Syria, Greece, Libya. Erdogan used to name the enemies. In wanting to be self-sufficient, Turkey overplays their hand. This is why if Erdogan wins in 2023, it is LOL @Washington.

Washington pushes and pushes and pushes. Using 5th columnist pawns in your nation to defeat you being independent from Washington bullies. Peru had a president that was bullied and bullied until he reacted and the Washington criminals deposed him because he could not take any more. Washington tries coups and economic war to destroy enemies. Turkey sees the writing on the wall and wants to re-arm to defend from a planned invasion of Turkey. Turkey with or without Erdogan is to be the new Saddam Hussein scary boogieman... after the EU is destroyed, after China and Iran fall to US invasions. Everybody knows Turkey cannot be allowed to stand and rival global powers and is to be kept down as a third rate nation. So is Greece. That is where the Turks go retarded. Turkey is doing to other nations exactly the fears of Turkey of Washington, London, Jerusalem, and various bullies. Turkey is the Washington bully to Greece. To Syria. To Libya. You transformed into exactly the thing you hate and fear.
They use us and we use them, they have their plans and interests and so do we have our own plans and interests. Tell me something new.
 
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Turkiye fought Russia in Syria and Libya .. idiots
but ERDOGAN-PUTIN keep the balance and continue the relationship
In a bit you'll tell you that you conquered Russia.

I know more then anyone as my family member works with uno in Greek.. look you can not stop human and birds migration from one place to other. You dont own this mother earth. How lon g you going to live 50 years or mex 100 years. This earth has taken many like you. We dont own this earth. We are here as passengers. We stop here for while and we leave. May be your ancestors were Persians from Central Asia or may be from Germany.. you never know
Bro please,don't smoke that.
 
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They use us and we use them, they have their plans and interests and so do we have our own plans and interests. Tell me something new.
"The street gangs have their plans and interests. My gang has our own plans and interests. We use them they use us." Tell me something new.

Turkey turned into the Washington of the Mediterranean Sea. We need more peace and freedom. Less little dictators and authoritarians.

No wonder Hungary is bordering on authoritarianism too. Putin draws evil to Russias side.
 
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You have a serious problem accepting facts as truth and you prefer suitable lies that make you feel better.


You're probably not aware that Erdogan had tried many times to push tens of thousands of immigrants and refugees to us. And in 2020 there was a big and serious effort to breach the land border. You probably don't know that.


We could make a lot of things,if there's will from the government and investments from outside.


Turks wouldn't fight Russia. They're just backstabbing both NATO and Russia.
But the refugees dont want to stay in Turkiye they all want to go to Europe. If we stop them that literally means we have to keep them hostage isnt it? We can’t force them to stay here.

Reality is totally different from your manipulation when you try to say Turkiye is using refugees as blackmail vs Europe.

Have your industries make artillery for Greece and export.
They have fetatillery and oliveoil powered missiles.
 
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In a bit you'll tell you that you conquered Russia.

Why we need to conquer Russia .. idiot
France-Germany and others can not fire even one bullet to Russia

Turkiye fought Russia in Libya and Syria
dont make anti-Turkiye and anti-Erdogan propaganda on every thread about Turkiye ..liar troll
 
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Have your industries make artillery for Greece and export.
Reliable artillery elements few countries produce, e.g. USA, Germany and South Korea, which can sell them in large quantities in their countries. It is not easy to set up a development and production line.
 
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But the refugees dont want to stay in Turkiye they all want to go to Europe. If we stop them that literally means we have to keep them hostage isnt it? We can’t force them to stay here.

Reality is totally different from your manipulation when you try to say Turkiye is using refugees as blackmail vs Europe.
Kick them back to their countries then.

Why we need to conquer Russia .. idiot
France-Germany and others can not fire even one bullet to Russia

Turkiye fought Russia in Libya and Syria
dont make anti-Turkiye and anti-Erdogan propaganda on every thread about Turkiye ..liar troll
If you think you've fought Russia...what can I say...
 
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Reliable artillery elements few countries produce, e.g. USA, Germany and South Korea, which can sell them in large quantities in their countries. It is not easy to set up a development and production line.
Then get onto the Italians to make FH70 howitzers again. Cheap.

Not only to defend from Turkey. If Turkey is expelled from NATO, the Aegean Islands can be stocked with long range artillery and hit Russian ships (or hit invading Turkish ships), providing similar defense that Turkey provides with the straits.
 
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