Turkey and Hungary should be suspended from NATO

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Turkey has been pissing off the entire Alliance for the last 10 years.

Turkiye kicked bandit USA-France and their terrorists/puppets PKK/YPG , FETO , ISIS , HAFTAR , Greece , Armenia in the last 10 years

 

[Foinikas]

and yet it is still there ?

And yet it is still there. But who do the Western and Northern Europeans feel closer to culturally and socially? The Swedes and Finns.

Turkiye kicked bandit USA-France and their terrorists/puppets PKK/YPG , FETO , ISIS , HAFTAR , Greece , Armenia in the last 10 years

Are you masturbating with these phrases every day? Do you go to the mirror and tell them to yourself? Do you walk and mumble the same stuff?

 

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Are you masturbating with these phrases every day? Do you go to the mirror and tell them to yourself? Do you walk and mumble the same stuff?

Reality hurts losers

USA,France fighting Turkiye via terrorists / proxies since 2013

-- Turkiye kicked USA-France backed PKK/YPG terror corridor in Syria
3 Turkish military operations blocked American-French plans in Syria against Turkiye

-- Turkiye kicked USA backed FETO terror organization

-- Turkiye kicked USA-France backed HAFTAR in Libya
Turkish Armed Forces entered the game to protect Libyan Government

-- Turkiye helped Azerbaijan to kick USA-France backed Armenia

-- Turkiye kicked USA-France backed Greece
Nobody can enter MAVI VATAN for drilling


Therefore losers live in their fantasy world and make silly scenarios
there is no mechanism to kick any member out of NATO

No one can force Turkiye to leave NATO ,if Turkiye doesn't want it.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Turkey has been pissing off the entire Alliance for the last 10 years.

And that’s good shows Turkey is persueing its own best interest. But i hope one day TR will be kicked out it will be a blessing in disguise.

well incidentally Sweden can offer more than 90% of NATO members from both Industrial and military stand point

Sweden has a population of 10 million. Both industrial and military stand point sweden is a bug compared to Turkiye.

Erdogan is used by the zionists for their goals.

Netanyahu wants chaos in Syria. Erdogan delivers.

Netanyahu: Israel has no problem with Assad, agreements must be upheld

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www.haaretz.com

Israel does not want Assad gone and a strong unified Syria with strong military on their borders. Israel wants Assad to stay with a crippled Syria with Assad.

Netanyahu wants Turkey/Turkish backed rebels in Syria causing division and Iran out of Syria.

Erdogan is used by the zionists in Libya. Libyan oil and gas cannot give more supply to Europe so long as Turkey is destroying Libya in a civil war supporting terrorists and rebels.

Erdogan is not only causing chaos in Libya, Erdo is causing chaos in Europe.

Erdogan's Libya invasion threatens the European Union

It has been six months since Turkey entered the fray in war-torn Libya. In early January, the Turkish parliament, at the behest of President Recep Tayyip

english.alarabiya.net

With more refugees and less supply oil for Europe.

So the Putin/Trump terrorists want Erdogan to weaken the EU. And Netanyahu wants Erdo to weaken and divide Syria.

Erdogan the anti-zionist is a fraud. Erdo is being used for Moscow, Israeli and Washington goals to weaken rivals of the Entente (Russia, US, UK) - the EU and Syria.

shia propaganda no one buys it.

 

[Foinikas]

No one can force Turkiye to leave NATO ,if Turkiye doesn't want it.

Overall, the absence of a suspension and expulsion mechanism in the North Atlantic Treaty does not prevent the North Atlantic Council from suspending or terminating the membership of an ally found to be in material breach of the treaty. However, with the 70th anniversary of the treaty just past, this is a sorry position for the Council to be in by any measure. Suspending, let alone terminating, a nation’s membership of NATO would be an extreme measure to be contemplated only once other attempts to restore unity and respect for the Alliance’s founding principles have been exhausted.

Can Turkey be Expelled from NATO? It's Legally Possible, Whether or Not Politically Prudent

The absence of a specific mechanism in the North Atlantic Treaty does not prevent suspending or terminating an ally's membership.

www.justsecurity.org

And that’s good shows Turkey is persueing its own best interest. But i hope one day TR will be kicked out it will be a blessing in disguise.

Funny how everything dumb Erdogan does is seen as making Turkey more "independent",by you Islamist Turks.

 

[Foinikas]

Sweden has a population of 10 million. Both industrial and military stand point sweden is a bug compared to Turkiye.

Sweden is closer culturally and socially to the Western Europeans. And they have a big Defence Industry.

And unlike Turkey,their equipment are tested and proven.

Carl Gustaf,NLAW,RBS-70,CV-90...they can even make the Gripen if you want.

And they're not going to play hard to get,if Putin invades somewhere. Turkey has proven to be the most unreliable NATO member the last 10 years.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Overall, the absence of a suspension and expulsion mechanism in the North Atlantic Treaty does not prevent the North Atlantic Council from suspending or terminating the membership of an ally found to be in material breach of the treaty. However, with the 70th anniversary of the treaty just past, this is a sorry position for the Council to be in by any measure. Suspending, let alone terminating, a nation’s membership of NATO would be an extreme measure to be contemplated only once other attempts to restore unity and respect for the Alliance’s founding principles have been exhausted.

Can Turkey be Expelled from NATO? It's Legally Possible, Whether or Not Politically Prudent

The absence of a specific mechanism in the North Atlantic Treaty does not prevent suspending or terminating an ally's membership.

www.justsecurity.org

Funny how everything dumb Erdogan does is seen as making Turkey more "independent",by you Islamist Turks.

It plays a role definitely as he is the President however it is not only about him. The aim of Turks is to gain total independence and freedom at all cost this is a matter of life and death.

Sweden is closer culturally and socially to the Western Europeans. And they have a big Defence Industry.

And unlike Turkey,their equipment are tested and proven.

Carl Gustaf,NLAW,RBS-70,CV-90...they can even make the Gripen if you want.

And they're not going to play hard to get,if Putin invades somewhere. Turkey has proven to be the most unreliable NATO member the last 10 years.

Yes i agree that Sweden, Finland is closer culturally to Europe. Don’t wait kick Turkiye out of Nato however US is the boss and in the end they will decide that. Unfortunately a puppy state like greece has no say in such matters if it comes to that point the bigboys will decide which is France, Germany, UK and USA.

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Sweden is closer culturally and socially to the Western Europeans. And they have a big Defence Industry.

And unlike Turkey,their equipment are tested and proven.

Carl Gustaf,NLAW,RBS-70,CV-90...they can even make the Gripen if you want.

And they're not going to play hard to get,if Putin invades somewhere. Turkey has proven to be the most unreliable NATO member the last 10 years.

Its understandable that swedish equipment are fascinating alien technology for greeks however for a Turk its nothing special tbh. Turkiye develops similar weapons on par with American quality. Everyone knows it. For example today in America the most popular small arms are Turkish brands such as Canik and Sarsilmaz. They have dethroned the Glock from the 1st place.

Meanwhile greece can expand the export of feta cheese and olive oil.

 

[Foinikas]

Unfortunately a puppy state like greece has no say in such matters if it comes to that point the bigboys will decide which is France, Germany, UK and USA.

Greece has been trying to put Turkey in the EU and you think we want Turkey out of NATO?

Its understandable that swedish equipment are fascinating alien technology for greeks however for a Turk its nothing special tbh. Turkiye develops similar weapons on par with American quality. Everyone knows it. For example today in America the most popular small arms are Turkish brands such as Canik and Sarsilmaz. They have dethroned the Glock from the 1st place.

Meanwhile greece can expand the export of feta cheese and olive oil.

Oh for Greeks? For Turks they're not? Then why are you trying to have Sweden lift the arms embargo?
Turkey has weapons on par with Americans when it comes to the quality? @gambit @F-22Raptor @A.P. Richelieu @LeGenD check this out.

They have dethroned the Glock? Hahahahaha

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Greece has been trying to put Turkey in the EU and you think we want Turkey out of NATO?

Whatever greece wants is irrellevant it has no value whatsoever.

 

[Foinikas]

Whatever greece wants is irrellevant it has no value whatsoever.

Oh is that why Americans prefer having more bases in Greece than Turkey now?

 

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Overall, the absence of a suspension and expulsion mechanism in the North Atlantic Treaty does not prevent the North Atlantic Council from suspending or terminating the membership of an ally found to be in material breach of the treaty. However, with the 70th anniversary of the treaty just past, this is a sorry position for the Council to be in by any measure. Suspending, let alone terminating, a nation’s membership of NATO would be an extreme measure to be contemplated only once other attempts to restore unity and respect for the Alliance’s founding principles have been exhausted.

another loser dreaming website
give us a source from NATO , not from losers

Turkiye is one of most active Country in NATO since cold War
And NATO is happy with Turkiye

Oh is that why Americans prefer having more bases in Greece than Turkey now?

because to use Greece as a pawn against Turkiye

another pawn after FETO , PKK/YPG , HAFTAR

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Oh is that why Americans prefer having more bases in Greece than Turkey now?

American bases are there because greece asked for protection against (you know who). Thats why your officials are able to talk tough lately.

 

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Are you masturbating with these phrases every day? Do you go to the mirror and tell them to yourself? Do you walk and mumble the same stuff?

Greece needs to build their own artillery. If Greece can do one thing for the EU, is make cold war era towed howitzers. You make ships, make artillery.

Sweden is closer culturally and socially to the Western Europeans. And they have a big Defence Industry.

And unlike Turkey,their equipment are tested and proven.

Carl Gustaf,NLAW,RBS-70,CV-90...they can even make the Gripen if you want.

And they're not going to play hard to get,if Putin invades somewhere. Turkey has proven to be the most unreliable NATO member the last 10 years.

Sweden and Finland are more useful to NATO than Turkey. Turkey is not going to fight Russia. Turkey only protects the Mediterranean sea from Russian black Sea fleet and Georgia from Russian attack because Turkey can fight to defend Georgia in a NATO war vs Russia.

Finland can fight Russia and be more useful than the USA in a real NATO vs Russia war.

It plays a role definitely as he is the President however it is not only about him. The aim of Turks is to gain total independence and freedom at all cost this is a matter of life and death.

Except Washington is letting Erdogan make enemies with neighbors. You have Qatar for energy. Your enemy is not in Syria, Greece, Libya. Erdogan used to name the enemies. In wanting to be self-sufficient, Turkey overplays their hand. This is why if Erdogan wins in 2023, it is LOL @Washington.

Washington pushes and pushes and pushes. Using 5th columnist pawns in your nation to defeat you being independent from Washington bullies. Peru had a president that was bullied and bullied until he reacted and the Washington criminals deposed him because he could not take any more. Washington tries coups and economic war to destroy enemies. Turkey sees the writing on the wall and wants to re-arm to defend from a planned invasion of Turkey. Turkey with or without Erdogan is to be the new Saddam Hussein scary boogieman... after the EU is destroyed, after China and Iran fall to US invasions. Everybody knows Turkey cannot be allowed to stand and rival global powers and is to be kept down as a third rate nation. So is Greece. That is where the Turks go retarded. Turkey is doing to other nations exactly the fears of Turkey of Washington, London, Jerusalem, and various bullies. Turkey is the Washington bully to Greece. To Syria. To Libya. You transformed into exactly the thing you hate and fear - a nation that takes away freedom and independence away from neighbors.

 

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It's not your war,but you're in NATO and NATO has decided to go against Russia and you say you're a vital member of NATO,but you're doing little to help.


You have to realize that you are the one sleeping here.

If NATO countries remove all bases from Turkey,kick Turks out of programs,stop sharing information with Turkey and become hostile,then you can say all you want "we're not leaving NATO". It's like going to a party,getting locked in a room all alone and saying "I'M IN THE PARTY,YOU CAN'T KICK ME OUT".

Retard.


Educated opinion?

Lets think for moment after kicking turkey out of nato. You force turks as former ottomans with iran former Persians with formers Mugals empires Pakistan with Chinese and Russian. Other side what you want to gain Sweden and Finland. Your borders will back on pre ottomans era. Open very open for central South and midel eastern powers like 700 years ago it was. Turkey is acting as buferzoon state for Greeks. Kicking out turky. Only loser I see is Greek very open for conquers