Turkey and China go head to head and fight it out for dominance of Central Asia

[OIO]

A paper tiger inside a house of cards. It just takes a few infected people coughing their lungs out to knock it all over.

Turkey is badly managed and in the wrong direction, trouble is a matter of time. Most important thing to Turkish is to know their position.

 

[hualushui]

Very ridiculous article, Central Asian countries have the right to choose how to interact with other countries.
This article focuses on China, Russia, and Turkey, but ignores the wishes of Central Asian countries

 

[khansaheeb]

Not in this world,we will never be allies with China.
China is insignificant to us.

Hahahaha, when I was in Istanbul almost everything sold was made in China, even the Turkish pottery.

 

[_NOBODY_]

Not in this world,we will never be allies with China.
China is insignificant to us.

If China is so insignificant then why did you join BRI?

 

[T-123456]

Hahahaha, when I was in Istanbul almost everything sold was made in China, even the Turkish pottery.

What do we sell the Chinese?
Nothing.
So you see,my point stands,China is insignificant to us.

If China is so insignificant then why did you join BRI?

Do you even know what BRI is all about?
What China wants with the BRI,it can only do to weak countries(African countries,some Europeansome ex soviet states,some Asian,some South American and some Asean countries).
It will try but it wont succeed.
Debt-trap diplomacy and Predatory lending can never succeed in the long term.
These countries will rebel by social unrest,government overthrow,economic bankruptcy,coups etc or just turn to the US.

 

[Pangu]

There is no dominance of CA by any country. Engagement & cooperation is a better word.

 

[bolo]

There is no dominance of CA by any country. Engagement & cooperation is a better word.

Depends. Engagement and cooperation with Turkey is obtainable. With US confrontation is the answer as you already observed.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Do people forget about the hatred that Central Asian countries have for each other. Siding with one of these nations will spite the other. I highly doubt all Central Asian States will pledge allegiance to a single nation unless that nation can offer shit ton of money and the only country capable of doing that is China.

Kyrgyzstan definitely has this problem due to being xenophobic of outsiders and a very traditional country (similar to how Japan was in the past.) They had some problems with Ozbeks in the past, where Kyrgyz attacks Ozbeks in Kyrgyzstan like a decade ago.

Rest of CAR have good ties and are on the same page.

Tajikstan is a mix of Turkic and Iranic, the speak Tajiki, which is close to Dari and Farsi. Iranians worked to convince them that they are Iranic, so there is alot of brainwashing there, which most affected Tajik in Afghanistan rather than Tajikstan itself.

They are still a very rural and peaceful society, and they are Sunni Muslim, therefore there is a limit to how much influence Iran can have on them. Recently they have started moving towards Pakistan.

Indians are having a headache in Tajikstan, because it was their plan B when Afghanistan failed, to use to pressure Pakistan. However Tajikstan is fast warming up with Pakistan for many reasons, including the realization that Afghanistan is falling fully under Pakistan sphere.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Central Asia, Southwest Asia, Eurasia

This region will become very important in the coming years.

It is the next heartland of Islamic revivalism.

 

[Max]

I don't know why despite invitation Central Asians are not utilizing Karachi or Gwadar.

There is no need of competition, we should all trade and live brotherly.

 

[The Eagle]

Countries will engage on the basis of interest of national benefit. Instead of showing down on each other; better to make some qualitative remarks & then try to expose any agenda or counter propaganda. I see some of posts are very disappointing especially since you guys cannot even try to see out of the box and on the same time talks with tunnel vision. So don't throw garbage at each other while polluting the Forum. Even the leadership of certain countries wouldn't imagine such kind of bravado and hate against each other.

 

[comci]

What do we sell the Chinese?
Nothing.
So you see,my point stands,China is insignificant to us.


Do you even know what BRI is all about?
What China wants with the BRI,it can only do to weak countries(African countries,some Europeansome ex soviet states,some Asian,some South American and some Asean countries).
It will try but it wont succeed.
Debt-trap diplomacy and Predatory lending can never succeed in the long term.
These countries will rebel by social unrest,government overthrow,economic bankruptcy,coups etc or just turn to the US.

If China is so insignificant then why did you join BRI?

https://green-bri.org/countries-of-the-belt-and-road-initiative-bri

 

[Figaro]

This thread does not make much sense. A 15 trillion dollar GDP country competing against a 800 billion dollar country ... that should alone tell you they really aren't competitors. For the sake of Turkey, I hope they don't enter into such competition because of this huge disparity.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I don't know why despite invitation Central Asians are not utilizing Karachi or Gwadar.

There is no need of competition, we should all trade and live brotherly.

We must solve the issue of Afghanistan first, it is our key to Central Asia. Everyone is waiting and watching intently.

This is also the direction in which Ch. Rehmat Ali want us to go. He formulated the name and map of Pakistan.