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Russians rejected to share critical technologies

So Turkey can't get any critical technology either. India's relation with Russia is much deep compare to Russian with Turkish so how much flexibility they will offer to Try to pitch SU-57 will be interesting .
 
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So Turkey can't get any critical technology either. India's relation with Russia is much deep compare to Russian with Turkish so how much flexibility they will offer to Try to pitch SU-57 will be interesting .

Russia's relations to Iran and India are much much deeper than to us, and as we know Iran had trouble with S-300's and India with SU-57... imagine how reliable they will be to TR a NATO country.
 
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Russia's relations to Iran and India are much much deeper than to us, and as we know Iran had trouble with S-300's and India with SU-57... imagine how reliable they will be to TR a NATO country.

So If you are out of F-35 then Chinese and Russian will have upper hand dealing about their offer of either J-31 or SU-57 as you will left with just two option . but what is more concerning to me is due to US pressure you may not get EU countries help regarding engine development for future TFX which happening with PW and another company if i can recall right .
 
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Now under current circumstances spending a single penny to any aircraft other than TF-X is the definition of plain stupidity. Even for inevitable stop-gap solutions we may acquire not fully matured early varient of TF-X lets say (block 1)or a 4(++) MMU in mid 2020s. may be an overly optimistic scenario but TF-X will be the ultimate test for Turkish military industry. Even a simple hürjet on steroids is more preferable than a SU, gripen, typhoon or rafale for a stop gap solution.
 
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One or two squadrons of SU57 will be enough as a stop gap measure also will be great for evaluation. Also like this hurjet on steroids idea. I think an east/west mix can only produce a more deadly TFX.
 
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One or two squadrons of SU57 will be enough as a stop gap measure also will be great for evaluation. Also like this hurjet on steroids idea. I think an east/west mix can only produce a more deadly TFX.

Actually i believe TFX will be pretty much western standarts. Since our tech partner BAE is British. Our entire army based on western standarts and Our defence companies mostly become partner with western companies.
 
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Actually i believe TFX will be pretty much western standarts. Since our tech partner BAE is British. Our entire army based on western standarts and Our defence companies mostly become partner with western companies.
It doesn't mean that you can't incorporate eastern tech into the jet. After evaluating the latest Russian jet, i'm sure it will lead to a broader input into TFX program.
 
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Greece and Poland?:rofl:

Poland can’t even buy itself one corvette for its own navy forget a plane that costs 90.000.000$ for its Air Force. :rofl:

Greece had problems paying the money for its F-16 to be modernized and had to cut the amount of F-16 by over half what they intended to modernize but is gonna buy the F-35 ?:rofl::rofl:

The same Greece that asked its people to donate money so they could buy one frigate ? :rofl:

A frigate that costs maybe twice or thrice the price of an F-35? :rofl::rofl:

Not even gonna get into Romania. ROMANIA :rofl:


Who are they trying to bullshit :rofl::rofl:
 
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so they are compensating turkish f35 lost.. we wont get it its sure!

romania and poland thats hilarious.. that says much..

I said it more than 1000 times ME is gonna see major events.. like lebanon war, iran war, turkey war and then splitting saudi arabia (sa is a lesser problem) and so on.. thats a little hit list and shure it went through their mind not once..

Greece had problems paying the money for its F-16

you can laugh but if someone pays for egypts military why cant you think someone else will pay for greeks? f16 modernisation is an excample..
 
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S400 and S500 will protect Turkey from enemies

the S-500 air defense system will be the first missile defense system able to reliably target and neutralize 5th generation stealth Fighters like the F-35

The S-500 is a new generation surface to air missile system with a range of 400-600 kilometers
designed for intercepting and destroying intercontinental ballistic missiles, as well as hypersonic cruise missiles and stealth Fighter Jets

so ERDOGAN said that S400 is done deal ,, S500 on agenda
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