Trump in Afganistan for the first time to end war!!

[Manidabest]

the war in Afghanistan will end if it will lead to a Vietnam style ending and only Pakistan & Iran jointly can force US to withdraw and for that they both have to converge their interest and work together to achieve their goals and its very simple

 

[H. Dawary]

Pakistan doesnt give a f$ck who is the majority or who is the minority. Pakistan is becoming mixed and that is what is going to happen with Afghanistan too. Also the birth rates would reduce alot when lifes get busier so you are comparing apples and oranges. Also there is nothing wrong with the name Pakistan for the same country. The land of the pure.

Shira cant happen because current Muslims are too immature to handle these laws. They would get twisted and corrupt like in iran and Saudi Arabia. That's that.

Name change should be up for debate, I think if its going to be a new nation then it should it be a new name as well in my opinion.

The Birth rates will reduce gradually over time as development occurs, but right now there is very little development in Afghanistan especially in Pashtun areas because war frequently happens there, and so long as that continues then the birth rates will remain where families will have 5-8 children, and even if development occurs, those birth rates will drop over time.

If Pakistan doesn't have a problem with us leading the nation since we will become a majority in the near future, then I personally don't mind the merge. However I do have a problem if Sharia is not going to be our lead role in life... If some provinces don't want to have Sharia then fine so be it. I say it should be up to the provinces, I know without a doubt the souther Pashtun areas of Afghanistan (Helmand, Kandhar, Nangarhar, Paktia etc.) the people want Sharia, and this is something that has to be respected and is something we will not compromise upon, we are not going to have secularism around these areas, if Punjab, Sindh, Karachi and the rest want secularism, that is their business. Let's see what will happen in the near future InshAllah.

@Pakhtoon yum @Hakim Dawary @fitpOsitive

I like that map, but name is up for debate, the same with flag. I simply believe, new country = new name + new flag, you are free to disagree, but that's just how I feel about it.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

When did I make fun of Bengalis? The "Afghans" that came here caused a sh$t ton of damage in kpk and balochistan too. Do you think we are found of them? Go to kpk and ask anyone how they feel about them. You will get one thing constantly said "namak haram". This doesn't mean I look at this through 1 hole in a wall. I am more concerned about Pakistan's power and future and for that we need central Asian to fly out flag. These "Afghans" can be delt with when they are absorbed by our customs and culture.

do u want millions of afghan in canada?
do u want them in ur locality?
do you want your kids to grow up with them ?
do u want ur house to be surrounded by afghan neighbours?

 

[Manidabest]

Name change should be up for debate, I think if its going to be a new nation then it should it be a new name as well in my opinion.

The Birth rates will reduce gradually over time as development occurs, but right now there is very little development in Afghanistan especially in Pashtun areas because war frequently happens there, and so long as that continues then the birth rates will remain where families will have 5-8 children, and even if development occurs, those birth rates will drop over time.

If Pakistan doesn't have a problem with us leading the nation since we will become a majority in the near future, then I personally don't mind the merge. However I do have a problem if Sharia is not going to be our lead role in life... If some provinces don't want to have Sharia then fine so be it. I say it should be up to the provinces, I know without a doubt the souther Pashtun areas of Afghanistan (Helmand, Kandhar, Nangarhar, Paktia etc.) the people want Sharia, and this is something that has to be respected and is something we will not compromise upon, we are not going to have secularism around these areas, if Punjab, Sindh, Karachi and the rest want secularism, that is their business. Let's see what will happen in the near future InshAllah.


I like that map, but name is up for debate, the same with flag. I simply believe, new country = new name + new flag, you are free to disagree, but that's just how I feel about it.

why do we have a merger ??? simple answers r for common defence & market. Now why do Pakistan and Afghanistan merge only?? why not lets bring back Old Empires back to alive.... From Mogal Empire to Samanid to safavid To Achaemanied ...lets have a confederation between Iran Afghanistan Pakistan And Tajikistan

 

[TMA]

Yes, their population isnt big and will become Pakistanized. It's a benefit to have that area because it provides so much strategic depth. Why do you think America is there? It's for that reason.

GB should've been made into a province long ago. It was the government back then that f$cked up because GB gained independence and then joined pakistan. Thus it is not related to Kashmir. As for Kashmir then it should be declared a province too. Both indian occupied and azad Kashmir. The capital should be muzaferabad with it's own provincial government. In charge of both Indian occupied and azad Kashmir.

Many Afghans woukd prefer death and rape of their women before becoming Pakistanized. They have deep animus and satanix arrogance towards Gul Khan and Daalkhor.

 

[pakpride00090]

Many Afghans woukd prefer death and rape of their women before becoming Pakistanized. They have deep animus and satanix arrogance towards Gul Khan and Daalkhor.

Pakhtoon yum lives in alternate universe.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Many Afghans woukd prefer death and rape of their women before becoming Pakistanized. They have deep animus and satanix arrogance towards Gul Khan and Daalkhor.

Yet they clean dishes and floors in our houses. This is the reality they need money to survive and those that are spreading this bs are the ones sitting in America or any other western country.

do u want millions of afghan in canada?
do u want them in ur locality?
do you want your kids to grow up with them ?
do u want ur house to be surrounded by afghan neighbours?

I'm not racist so I dont mind. As long as they keep their loyalties to Pakistan. I have no issues and I believe most of them will. They srent animals they deserve basic human needs too. With the economy going up more jobs will be created plus with the connectivity with afganistan alot of more jobs will be created in the form of construction and overall connectivity. Give them jobs so they can feed their children and then they're is no issue.

My family ran a refugee school for their children so I grew up with them. I know alot about their thought process. Basically they have been uncultured becuse if the war with the Soviet union and then nato. They seem to have forgotten their core values. Pakistananiat will insure the revival of those values.

Name change should be up for debate, I think if its going to be a new nation then it should it be a new name as well in my opinion.

The Birth rates will reduce gradually over time as development occurs, but right now there is very little development in Afghanistan especially in Pashtun areas because war frequently happens there, and so long as that continues then the birth rates will remain where families will have 5-8 children, and even if development occurs, those birth rates will drop over time.

If Pakistan doesn't have a problem with us leading the nation since we will become a majority in the near future, then I personally don't mind the merge. However I do have a problem if Sharia is not going to be our lead role in life... If some provinces don't want to have Sharia then fine so be it. I say it should be up to the provinces, I know without a doubt the souther Pashtun areas of Afghanistan (Helmand, Kandhar, Nangarhar, Paktia etc.) the people want Sharia, and this is something that has to be respected and is something we will not compromise upon, we are not going to have secularism around these areas, if Punjab, Sindh, Karachi and the rest want secularism, that is their business. Let's see what will happen in the near future InshAllah.


I like that map, but name is up for debate, the same with flag. I simply believe, new country = new name + new flag, you are free to disagree, but that's just how I feel about it.

Name is not debatable. Do you know what the name of Pakistan stands for? Also either you are trying to provoke me or you are just ignorant when it comes to what Pakistan really is. Do you know the country is run my Pakhtoons? The current government is a Pakhtoon government. Their is no bigotry when it comes to whom runs it.

The unification will increase the jobs ASPA because Afghanistan will need to be connected to our motorway, highway, and rail system. Which will create tons of opportunities for the locals. Along with a new police force and judiciary. So yes the birth rates will drop and with a country like Pakistan no one gives a f$ck what you are. From black to white, to European and asian looking. No one reayre cares what religion you follow either. There is a certain radical party that's obsessed with it but they are dying their natural death.

P-Punjab
A-Afghania
K-Kashmir
I- for ease of pronunciation
S-Sindh
T- stan for balochistan, too
A
N

@Pakhtoon yum @Hakim Dawary @fitpOsitive

Actually the cut off should be the border with Nepal. Nothing beyond that would bring anything significant for the country. Focus upwards, central Asia is key.

 

[H. Dawary]

Name is not debatable. Do you know what the name of Pakistan stands for? Also either you are trying to provoke me or you are just ignorant when it comes to what Pakistan really is. Do you know the country is run my Pakhtoons? The current government is a Pakhtoon government. Their is no bigotry when it comes to whom runs it.

The unification will increase the jobs ASPA because Afghanistan will need to be connected to our motorway, highway, and rail system. Which will create tons of opportunities for the locals. Along with a new police force and judiciary. So yes the birth rates will drop and with a country like Pakistan no one gives a f$ck what you are. From black to white, to European and asian looking. No one reayre cares what religion you follow either. There is a certain radical party that's obsessed with it but they are dying their natural death.

P-Punjab
A-Afghania
K-Kashmir
I- for ease of pronunciation
S-Sindh
T- stan for balochistan, too
A
N


Actually the cut off should be the border with Nepal. Nothing beyond that would bring anything significant for the country. Focus upwards, central Asia is key.[/QUOTE]

I know what Pakistan is, but I think you are a little naive as to how the world works. In an ideal world, I would want the whole Muslim world to unite under a single Caliphate with Sharia as our law, I would want each Muslim to carry on with their daily business, however reality is much different from that.

Look at the facts... Whichever part of the world you go to, the Majority lead it, this is simply natural law, and I respect it because it is from Allah. Even if an "Obama" comes to office and leads White America, that doesn't mean black people are going to overnight, like you say, "run" America, the establishment will still be white, the state institutions will still be white, the deep state will still be white and this mainly because... they are the majority. The same applies to Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, wherever you name it, unless some group comes over and takes power by force, or in the case of the British, installs minorities into power to control the majority and keep the state divided, like they did with Sri Lanka and elsewhere.

You may say Pakistan doesn't care, but look at the comments from before. Once person brought up the topic of Pashtun and said "we will increase Urdu speaking populations". I have a best friend who is Sindhi who I grew up with since grade 9 and we talk about everything, I asked him one time about Karachi and the state of things there, he's told me everything from Altaf Hussain to the ethnic clashes in Universities in Pakistan. You and I will be ok with this merge, but what about the rest of Pakistan, will they be ok with a Majority Pashtun leading the merged state (Serious question)? and what about the rest of Afghanistan, especially the Tajiks, I have never met a Tajik who supports this idea and I don't count since I am only half. The best I can hope for is right now having an European styled EU in which we all work for our common interests, and go from there InshAllah.

 

[Gangetic]

If Pakistan doesn't have a problem with us leading the nation since we will become a majority in the near future,

You're a Tajik? Since when were Tajiks large enough in population to be the majority?

 

[H. Dawary]

You're a Tajik? Since when were Tajiks large enough in population to be the majority?

I'm half Tajik and half Pashtun.

 

[Pakhtoon yum]

Rest of Pakistan will be fine. No such clashes in any other universities in Punjab or anything else. Heck they take pride in hosting pakistani pakhtoons. The issue with Karachi is long and messed up. If I try to explain it, it will take days. That city has gone through so much bullsh$t cause of MQM that its destroyed. Your average order speaker in Karachi has no issues but the ones associated to the terrorist party of MQM does. Even MQM is dying its natural death.

In the last 12 years Pakistan went through so much that any other country would have collapsed. Other countries like the US, Israel, and india used the situation in Afghanistan to breed hate against Pakistan and to facilitate terrorist that came and killed more pakhtoons and baloch then anyone else. They used false narratives to feed hate into the minds of the people of Afghanistan.

This is the cause of the hate that exists, with us Pakistan's for anyone of from Afghanistan. We gave them shelter, food, jobs, medical and a future yet they started to bomb us. Committed horrendous crimes and harm to Pakistan.

To fix this, unification is mandatory. Only then can the terrorists and those that spread hate, can be silenced.

Also you prove to me again that you don't know how Pakistan functions. Even if Pakhtoons have 30 children each, it will still take 50 years for them to become a majority. In the end it all works out. I also highlight this again. Pakistan currently has a Pakhtoon dominated government leading the country, do you see any objections for anyone? The answer is no. So for the last time, no there is no issue with whom is majority and whom is minority.

As for the tajiks then they will be persuaded into the union. Not very difficult considering they have no other alternative when the time comes. Pakistan already has a central Asian population so it wouldn't be a problem to add more.

Afganistan and Pakistan cant act as the EU, must be 1 country. Otherwise peoepe will take advantage of Afghanistan against pakistan. Dragging both people into a useless hate driven conflict.

Also as for shria and the rest of the Muslim world then I've already answered that. So no, it wont happen. @Hakim Dawary

You're a Tajik? Since when were Tajiks large enough in population to be the majority?

They arent. He's just creating an mountain out of a hill.

 

[TMA]

Yet they clean dishes and floors in our houses. This is the reality they need money to survive and those that are spreading this bs are the ones sitting in America or any other western country.


I'm not racist so I dont mind. As long as they keep their loyalties to Pakistan. I have no issues and I believe most of them will. They srent animals they deserve basic human needs too. With the economy going up more jobs will be created plus with the connectivity with afganistan alot of more jobs will be created in the form of construction and overall connectivity. Give them jobs so they can feed their children and then they're is no issue.

My family ran a refugee school for their children so I grew up with them. I know alot about their thought process. Basically they have been uncultured becuse if the war with the Soviet union and then nato. They seem to have forgotten their core values. Pakistananiat will insure the revival of those values.


Name is not debatable. Do you know what the name of Pakistan stands for? Also either you are trying to provoke me or you are just ignorant when it comes to what Pakistan really is. Do you know the country is run my Pakhtoons? The current government is a Pakhtoon government. Their is no bigotry when it comes to whom runs it.

The unification will increase the jobs ASPA because Afghanistan will need to be connected to our motorway, highway, and rail system. Which will create tons of opportunities for the locals. Along with a new police force and judiciary. So yes the birth rates will drop and with a country like Pakistan no one gives a f$ck what you are. From black to white, to European and asian looking. No one reayre cares what religion you follow either. There is a certain radical party that's obsessed with it but they are dying their natural death.

P-Punjab
A-Afghania
K-Kashmir
I- for ease of pronunciation
S-Sindh
T- stan for balochistan, too
A
N


Actually the cut off should be the border with Nepal. Nothing beyond that would bring anything significant for the country. Focus upwards, central Asia is key.

Pakistanis are not loyal to Pakistan and you expect that people from an anti Pakistan nation who have visceral arrogance to 'subhumans' are going to be loyal? I say less than 1% of Afghanistan would be loyal. I think that 'Hindu' Bharatis are more likely to be loyal.

 

[H. Dawary]

Pakistanis are not loyal to Pakistan and you expect that people from an anti Pakistan nation who have visceral arrogance to 'subhumans' are going to be loyal? I say less than 1% of Afghanistan would be loyal. I think that 'Hindu' Bharatis are more likely to be loyal.

I do not agree with this post... I know a lot of Afghans have hatred for Pakistan, but at the same time I am realizing that more and more Pakistanis are beginning to have hatred for Afghans and Afghanistan. The possibility of both nations merging is right now not within sights, but it can happen within the next 50 years I believe, if we support one another, help one another, and stand with one another. If we can do this, then our interests will be aligned and I don't see why we wouldn't be one nation at that point?

But right now the most important thing is to build good relationships, then have aligned interests, and later join if the people of both nations believe it is in their best interests, and I believe it will be in the future InshAllah if we behave more like Muslims and not like Nationalists.

 

[pakpride00090]

I do not agree with this post... I know a lot of Afghans have hatred for Pakistan, but at the same time I am realizing that more and more Pakistanis are beginning to have hatred for Afghans and Afghanistan. The possibility of both nations merging is right now not within sights, but it can happen within the next 50 years I believe, if we support one another, help one another, and stand with one another. If we can do this, then our interests will be aligned and I don't see why we wouldn't be one nation at that point?

But right now the most important thing is to build good relationships, then have aligned interests, and later join if the people of both nations believe it is in their best interests, and I believe it will be in the future InshAllah if we behave more like Muslims and not like Nationalists.

The bolded part is very true.

Pakistani generally didn't have hatred towards Afghans but now it is rising and will keep on rising... Most Pakistanis are now becoming aware that Afghans are literal enemies that should be kicked out of the country and durand line sealed.

I am in full agreement with above posters that Afghans have huge superiority complex. Their way of thinking prevents any legitimate talk to happen. Hard to make peace with a country where majority of its citizens think Pakistanis are daal khor , dark skinned converts while at the same time believing Pakistani Pashtuns are Gul khans.

 

[925boy]

Hes gona have to end the war if he wants to win election back home.

and overall, he hasnt actually brought net troops back home or ended any wars. another propaganda fed to Americans so they vote for greedy idiotic men like Trump for president...

There are lots of anti Pakistani elements in Afghanistan, they wont let you do to captured Afghanistan, They defeated/defeating USA/Nato, how its possible that Pakistan will capture Afghanistan and sustain it indefinitely, you have no logic and common sense

Taliban can broker the "merging" of Afghanistan into Pakistan between Afghan people and Pakistani govt. Just an idea.