What's new

Top German Politician Tells Ash Carter to 'Go F**K' Himself. Finally!

Hasbara Buster

SENIOR MEMBER
Joined
Aug 17, 2010
Messages
4,612
Reaction score
-7
Top German Politician Tells Ash Carter to 'Go F**K' Himself. Finally!

The mood is changing in Europe

Oskar Lafontaine is a major force in German politics. When he comes out swinging this way, you know something is changing.

He has been an outsized figure in German politics since the mid-70s. He was chairman of the SPD (one of Germany's two main parties) for four years, the SPD's candidate for chancellor in 1990, minister of finance for two years, and then chairman of the Left party in the 2000s. He is married to Sarah Wagenknecht, political heavyweight, who is currently co-chairman of Left party.

So it caught people's attention when he excoriated Ash Carter and Victoria Nuland on his Facebook page yesterday.

Lafontaine's outburst came a day after his wife, Sarah Wagenknecht, blasted Merkel's Russia policy in an interview on RT.

Here is the full translation of the post:

“The US 'Defense' secretary, i.e., war minister is in Berlin. He called on Europe to counter Russian 'aggression'. But in fact, it is US aggression which Europeans should be opposing.

“The Grandmaster of US diplomacy, George Kennan described the eastward expansion of NATO as the biggest US foreign policy mistake since WW2, because it will lead to a new cold war.

“The US diplomat Victoria Nuland said we have spent $5 billion to destabilize the Ukraine. They stoke the flames ever higher, and Europe pays for it with lower trade and lost jobs.

“Nuland says 'F*ck the EU'. We need need an EU foreign policy that stops warmongering US imperialism.

“F*ck US imperialism!”

Read more: Top German Politician Tells Ash Carter to 'Go F**K' Himself. Finally!
 
. .
He is right. US imperialism basically want EU to bleed for their own ambition.

US solution for illegal immgrant flocking into EU, no.

US solution for compensation for loss of trade between EU and Russia, no.

The American is cheapskate. They want you to obey like dog and yet offer no meals. Only idiots will follow US imperialism.
 
.
  • RT, originally Russia Today, is a Russian state-funded television network which runs cable and satellite television channels, as well as Internet content directed to audiences outside the Russian Federation.
  • RT is a brand of "TV-Novosti", an "autonomous non-profit organization", founded by the Russian news agency RIA Novosti on April 6, 2005.
  • During the economic crisis in December 2008, the Russian Government headed by Vladimir Putin included ANO "TV-Novosti" in the list of core organisations of strategic importance of Russia.
  • RT has been called a propaganda outlet for the Russian government and its foreign policy by former Russian officials and by news reporters, including former RT reporters. It has also been accused of spreading disinformation.
  • The United Kingdom media regulator Ofcom has threatened RT with sanctions because of repeated violations of its rules on impartiality.

Just so you understand the source from which this material comes.
 
.
Just so you understand the source from which this material comes.

"**** the US-Imperialism" -... - Oskar Lafontaine | Facebook

dated in June.

Even a self proffesed Marxist intellectual, a world calibre philosopher Slavoj Žižek talks about the idiocy of such unhindered immigration.

Hierzu empfehle ich ein Interview mit dem Philosophen Slavoj Žižek (http://www.sueddeutsche.de/…/philosoph-slavoj-iek-ueber-asy… ):
„Unkoordinierte Zuwanderung allerdings gefährdet den Kern Europas - und zwar nicht bloß, weil da Menschen aus fremden Kulturkreisen kommen, sondern weil wir Europäer aufzugeben drohen, was das Beste und Wertvollste an Europa ist: Universalismus, Menschenrechte, Solidarität, Aufklärung. Das bildet für mich das Herzstück Europas. Diese Werte sind momentan von zwei Seiten her bedroht: Auf der einen Seite durch rechtspopulistische Einwanderungsgegner, die ihr Land am liebsten abschotten wollen und durch die Unsicherheit vieler Menschen neuen Zulauf bekommen. Auf der anderen Seite ist Europa aber auch bedroht von sentimentalen Linken, die heuchlerisch für offene Grenzen plädieren.“

Philosoph Slavoj Žižek über Deutschlands Asylpolitik - Politik - Süddeutsche.de
 
Last edited:
.
"**** the US-Imperialism" -... - Oskar Lafontaine | Facebook

dated in June.

Even a self proffesed Marxist intellectual, a world calibre philosopher Slavoj Žižek talks about the idiocy of such unhindered immigration.



Philosoph Slavoj Žižek über Deutschlands Asylpolitik - Politik - Süddeutsche.de

Fine, but still, it is good to know what RT is, when it gives its interpretation.

About time, yankees need to go home and leave europe in peace.
We in Europa are at peace.
 
.
  • RT, originally Russia Today, is a Russian state-funded television network which runs cable and satellite television channels, as well as Internet content directed to audiences outside the Russian Federation.
  • RT is a brand of "TV-Novosti", an "autonomous non-profit organization", founded by the Russian news agency RIA Novosti on April 6, 2005.
  • During the economic crisis in December 2008, the Russian Government headed by Vladimir Putin included ANO "TV-Novosti" in the list of core organisations of strategic importance of Russia.
  • RT has been called a propaganda outlet for the Russian government and its foreign policy by former Russian officials and by news reporters, including former RT reporters. It has also been accused of spreading disinformation.
  • The United Kingdom media regulator Ofcom has threatened RT with sanctions because of repeated violations of its rules on impartiality.
Just so you understand the source from which this material comes.
As if CNN is impartial?
As if BBC is impartial?
As if Washington post is impartial?
As if New york times is impartial?

When people claim US or UK has freedom of press. I have a good laugh becos western media are controlled by state to report news in line suppport with their government policy. Which means its no different from communist China and Russia.
 
.
To solve the immigrant crisis and to mend the relationship with Russia over the Ukrainian crisis are now the top priority for the EU.

The EU is now completely exhausted, and they cannot comply to the needs of the US geopolitical plan anymore.
 
.
As if CNN is impartial?
As if BBC is impartial?
As if Washington post is impartial?
As if New york times is impartial?

When people claim US or UK has freedom of press. I have a good laugh becos western media are controlled by state to report news in line suppport with their government policy. Which means its no different from communist China and Russia.
A few small and insignificant differences:
None of these are stateowned or state funded.
None of these are particularly intended for foreign consumption.
None of these have been labelled "core organisations of strategic importance" to the USA, by its head of state.
None of these have been called a propaganda outlet for the US government and its foreign policy by former US government officials and by news reporters, including former reporters of said media.
None of these media have been accused of spreading (government) disinformation.

OfCom enforces UK broadcasting rules, not some holy institution. Still, it hasn't taken issue with any of the above media

The point is not (im)impartiality (evenhandedness or fair-mindedness), which is a principle of justice holding that decisions should be based on objective criteria, rather than on the basis of bias, prejudice, or preferring the benefit to one person over another for improper reasons.

The point is disinformation. Disinformation is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately.
It is an act of deception and false statements to convince someone of untruth. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.
Unlike traditional propaganda techniques designed to engage emotional support, disinformation is designed to manipulate the audience at the rational level by either discrediting conflicting information or supporting false conclusions. A common disinformation tactic is to mix some truth and observation with false conclusions and lies, or to reveal part of the truth while presenting it as the whole (a limited hangout).
Another technique of concealing facts, or censorship, is also used if the group can affect such control. When channels of information cannot be completely closed, they can be rendered useless by filling them with disinformation, effectively lowering their signal-to-noise ratio and discrediting the opposition by association with many easily disproved false claims.

See post 6.
 
. .
Yes, as peaceful as Paris
Amongst ourselves we are. Can't account for selfrighteous morons from elsewhere, obviously.
Sincerely hope your are not here to gloat so soon after so many died so pointlessly and tragically.
 
.
As if CNN is impartial?
As if BBC is impartial?
As if Washington post is impartial?
As if New york times is impartial?

When people claim US or UK has freedom of press. I have a good laugh becos western media are controlled by state to report news in line suppport with their government policy. Which means its no different from communist China and Russia.

Go onto BBC and you will at some point get both sides of arguments and they ALWAYS have a variety of stories from all over the world with eyewitness accounts and interviews, they will report on bad things that happen in the UK, and internal matters of corrupt politicians etc, to silly pieces on a street food seller in Hong Kong. RT on the other hand NEVER reports on anything which is negative to Russia, because its owned by the government, never anything atall makes the front page which truly portrays Russia in a negative light and there are daily stories that can do that. Instead there headlines are always just attacks on the west for trivial/questionable reasons and ones that Russia themselves are normally guilty of.

That is my main issue with RT, its completely 100% one sided and it seems 90% of its stories focus on anti western talk. Whereas BBC might have 1% of stories about Russia, 99% about world news, RT is an anti western mouthpiece of crap for socially awkward Europeans and yanks that hate their government but are in reality usually basement dwellers and angry muslims.
 
.
Fine, but still, it is good to know what RT is, when it gives its interpretation.


We in Europa are at peace.

Oh really? If it wasn't so sad, I would have ROFL LMAO so hard.

Amongst ourselves we are. Can't account for selfrighteous morons from elsewhere, obviously.
Sincerely hope your are not here to gloat so soon after so many died so pointlessly and tragically.

Yeah sure, too bad ISIS is financed by our dear friend from the other side of the pond in co-op with our close partner Saudi Barbaria and our vassal govs. have nothing better to do then to comply.
 
.
Go onto BBC and you will at some point get both sides of arguments and they ALWAYS have a variety of stories from all over the world with eyewitness accounts and interviews, they will report on bad things that happen in the UK, and internal matters of corrupt politicians etc, to silly pieces on a street food seller in Hong Kong. RT on the other hand NEVER reports on anything which is negative to Russia, because its owned by the government, never anything atall makes the front page which truly portrays Russia in a negative light and there are daily stories that can do that. Instead there headlines are always just attacks on the west for trivial/questionable reasons and ones that Russia themselves are normally guilty of.

That is my main issue with RT, its completely 100% one sided and it seems 90% of its stories focus on anti western talk. Whereas BBC might have 1% of stories about Russia, 99% about world news, RT is an anti western mouthpiece of crap for socially awkward Europeans and yanks that hate their government but are in reality usually basement dwellers and angry muslims.
Your logic is strange. BBC is not owned by government, then at least he is owned by someone. If RT is owned government and she does not report any negative things about Russian, BBC is owned by a small minority, she will not report any negative things about these minorities? So which is better? A public media owned the government who is at least for the country or say the majority, while a public media who can be used by the limited minority and against the whole country? Especially you can not even ensure BBC is owned by the people who are in favor of UK, eg. owned by a US, or which may make you become more comfortable, owned by evil Chinese or Iran or Russian.
Well, come back to earth, though BBC is not owned by the UK government, it gets a big funds from the government. and everyone knows that, in the west, campaign contributors are the God

Amongst ourselves we are. Can't account for selfrighteous morons from elsewhere, obviously.
Sincerely hope your are not here to gloat so soon after so many died so pointlessly and tragically.
I don't think it is pointless for some wise men in the Europe, who can quickly understand what and who makes this tragedy, when weapons are continuously flowing from the EU to the hands of ISIS direct or indirectly but on purpose.
I have heard the dwarf who open the Pandora's box will campaign for the French president again, well, good luck for the French.
 
.
I hear endless diatribe about the 'evil' of Russia, and how Putin is a 'madman'..The press have accepted this as de facto and universally villify him.

The problem was caused by an insane eastward expansion of Nato, driven by the US. Nato moving into areas it has no business in, establishing itself on Russia's door step.

Here are the Americans openly accepting they have destabilized Ukraine.

It is the Americans causing the problem, not the Russians. And the Europeans are following behind them like dogs on a leash.
 
.

Pakistan Defence Latest Posts

Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts

Back
Top Bottom