Top German Politician Tells Ash Carter to 'Go F**K' Himself. Finally!

[Penguin]

I hear endless diatribe about the 'evil' of Russia, and how Putin is a 'madman'..The press have accepted this as de facto and universally villify him.

The problem was caused by an insane eastward expansion of Nato, driven by the US. Nato moving into areas it has no business in, establishing itself on Russia's door step.

Here are the Americans openly accepting they have destabilized Ukraine.

It is the Americans causing the problem, not the Russians. And the Europeans are following behind them like dogs on a leash.

And the locals have no role or responsibility whatsoever?

 

[haviZsultan]

Good that people are realizing how detrimental it is to side with USA. Look what they did to Pakistan. $100 billion in losses with atleast 60,000 dead and still not even a pat on the back. The Americans are traitors and treat all other nations as toilet paper.

Our failure to align with Russia was a major mistake-something we are paying for till today.

 

[Globenim]

A few small and insignificant differences:
None of these are stateowned or state funded.
None of these are particularly intended for foreign consumption.
None of these have been labelled "core organisations of strategic importance" to the USA, by its head of state.
None of these have been called a propaganda outlet for the US government and its foreign policy by former US government officials and by news reporters, including former reporters of said media.
None of these media have been accused of spreading (government) disinformation.

OfCom enforces UK broadcasting rules, not some holy institution. Still, it hasn't taken issue with any of the above media

The point is not (im)impartiality (evenhandedness or fair-mindedness), which is a principle of justice holding that decisions should be based on objective criteria, rather than on the basis of bias, prejudice, or preferring the benefit to one person over another for improper reasons.

The point is disinformation. Disinformation is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately.
It is an act of deception and false statements to convince someone of untruth. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.
Unlike traditional propaganda techniques designed to engage emotional support, disinformation is designed to manipulate the audience at the rational level by either discrediting conflicting information or supporting false conclusions. A common disinformation tactic is to mix some truth and observation with false conclusions and lies, or to reveal part of the truth while presenting it as the whole (a limited hangout).
Another technique of concealing facts, or censorship, is also used if the group can affect such control. When channels of information cannot be completely closed, they can be rendered useless by filling them with disinformation, effectively lowering their signal-to-noise ratio and discrediting the opposition by association with many easily disproved false claims.

See post 6.

What a load of intellectual dishonest bullshit.

Allegedly the U.S. goverment is not paying the big mainstream media to spread disinfo, in fact they never are even accuessed by anyone of spreading disinfo and lying and no one ever admitted to do so and in fact they don't even try to spread their disinfo on the international realm which is why the have international multilanguage websites with translations of their blatant lies and disinfo. Never mind the mountains of irrefuteable blatant lies the "free propaganda" papers produce every week to spin up absolute objectively false narratives, the regular accussations and debunking of U.S. media fabricated disinfo, baseless inventions and lies by the remaining world that has not yet fallen under the U.S. hegemony, all the evidence for goverment funding and tesitmonies from insiders and ex government whistleblowers, the very same big lying U.S. government controlled "press" actively prunes on demand of the U.S. and U.S. occupied regimes.

I doubt you even believe 10% of that nonseense and blatant lies you wrote there yourself and then only the parts that are irrelevant or or are just nonsensical filler bullshit to grasp for "arguments" anyways, like the U.S. government openly calling their propaganda outlets core organisations or stategic importance like as if that matters anything or the whole blabla what disinfo would be, as if preaching the obvious proves the U.S. "free propaganda" press isn't doing exactly that.

 

[Penguin]

What a load of intellectual dishonest bullshit.

Allegedly the U.S. goverment is not paying the big mainstream media to spread disinfo, in fact they never are even accuessed by anyone of spreading disinfo and lying and no one ever admitted to do so and in fact they don't even try to spread their disinfo on the international realm which is why the have international multilanguage websites with translations of their blatant lies and disinfo. Never mind the mountains of irrefuteable blatant lies the "free propaganda" papers produce every week to spin up absolute objectively false narratives, the regular accussations and debunking of U.S. media fabricated disinfo, baseless inventions and lies by the remaining world that has not yet fallen under the U.S. hegemony, all the evidence for goverment funding and tesitmonies from insiders and ex government whistleblowers, the very same big lying U.S. government controlled "press" actively prunes on demand of the U.S. and U.S. occupied regimes.

I doubt you even believe 10% of that nonseense and blatant lies you wrote there yourself and then only the parts that are irrelevant or or are just nonsensical filler bullshit to grasp for "arguments" anyways, like the U.S. government openly calling their propaganda outlets core organisations or stategic importance like as if that matters anything or the whole blabla what disinfo would be, as if preaching the obvious proves the U.S. "free propaganda" press isn't doing exactly that.

My my what an accusations. And so lacking in proof or supporting examples.
I don't know why you think I - as a European - would have to defend US media.
Propaganda is something for totalitarian states.
I'm not in one. Are you?

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