‘Too upset and angry’: Muslim teen barred from top London school for wearing veil quits

[DingDong]

Well then they will have to justify why the sudden change when knowing they have many Muslims in their country...I have answered this (post 117) you are going in circles...


That is all I have been saying from day 1...




Lived in both countries for certain periods and I can def say neither is the same....but what you quoted me (post 130) is what I am going on and on about when you label yourself as tolerant and liberal then be tolerant and liberal why intermix the both than try to compare yourself with those which you have labeled intolerant and not liberal (i.e. Saudia Arabia)???

There are non-Muslims living in Muslim majority countries. What is your point exactly? You mean to say that when non-Muslims follow that "My house my rules" theory, they must justify it but the Muslim nations don't have to?

 

[Dubious]

There are non-Muslims living in Muslim majority countries. What is your point exactly? You mean to say that when non-Muslims follow that "My house my rules" theory, they must justify it but the Muslim nations don't have to?

lolz show me 1 post where I said that...

I have repeated only 1 thing and even @TankMan understood maybe it is not me who is saying something which you wish to hear but you refusing to understand what I wish to say....

I agree completely but unfortunately reason is useless on people who refuse to listen to it. Those who will find any reason to bash Muslims will continue to use this same argument and disregard all of our well written counter arguments.

post 138

 

[A.M.]

Important to understand that this isn't 'Britain' but rather a privately owned institution.

The school should be able to enforce such rule or any rule for that matter. If it bothers the girl so much, she can eSily go somewhere else.

Not surprised that most Pakistanis will jump the gun and say, haraaaammm! Just shows the level of their intelligence.

 

[Dubious]

she can eSily go somewhere else.

she did...

Not surprised that most Pakistanis will jump the gun and say, haraaaammm! Just shows the level of their intelligence.

Not sure where you picked that up from but so far none have even come to that conclusion

 

[TankMan]

There are non-Muslims living in Muslim majority countries. What is your point exactly? You mean to say that when non-Muslims follow that "My house my rules" theory, they must justify it but the Muslim nations don't have to?

DUDE, he explained his answer to this dozens of times!
Muslim majority countries do not claim to be secular, liberal or tolerant. All of these countries clearly say that they are ISLAMIC or MUSLIM.
Most Non-Muslim countries, on the other hand, claim to be secular, liberal and tolerant. In that case, yes, they have to justify it. If the UK would declare that it is a Christian country, I wouldn't oppose any anti-Muslim actions on their part.
However, they can't be tolerant and be against Muslims at the same time.

 

[A.M.]

she did...



Not sure where you picked that up from but so far none have even come to that conclusion

Most replies on first two pages are. Just making my way through the rest of the topic.

DUDE, he explained his answer to this dozens of times!
Muslim majority countries do not claim to be secular, liberal or tolerant. All of these countries clearly say that they are ISLAMIC or MUSLIM.
Most Non-Muslim countries, on the other hand, claim to be secular, liberal and tolerant. In that case, yes, they have to justify it. If the UK would declare that it is a Christian country, I wouldn't oppose any anti-Muslim actions on their part.
However, they can't be tolerant and be against Muslims at the same time.

Actually they don't need to do anything. You are a minority. Plain and simple.

 

[TankMan]

Actually they don't need to do anything. You are a minority. Plain and simple.

I am a minority in a country that claims to respect minorities.

 

[Dubious]

Actually they don't need to do anything. You are a minority. Plain and simple.

Not really...even minority have rights in a tolerant and liberal society!

 

[A.M.]

I am a minority in a country that claims to respect minorities.

This is a decision made by a private institution.

What does the country have to do with it?

 

[DingDong]

DUDE, he explained his answer to this dozens of times!
Muslim majority countries do not claim to be secular, liberal or tolerant. Most countries clearly say that they are ISLAMIC or MUSLIM.
Most Non-Muslim countries, on the other hand, claim to be secular, liberal and tolerant. In that case, yes, they have to justify it. If the UK would declare that it is a Christian country, I wouldn't oppose any anti-Muslim actions on their part.
However, they can't be tolerant and be against Muslims at the same time.

You mean to say that terrorists have the right to commit terror acts if they declare themselves terrorists? But a so-called liberal person must justify before going violent even in self-defence?

UK is secular and liberal because majority of Britishers have adopted it as "their way of life" which is under threat. In fact through such acts they are preserving the values on which their nation has been built.

Old saying: Practice what you Preach.

 

[A.M.]

Not really...even minority have rights in a tolerant and liberal society!

Stop confusing state and a private school.

 

[TankMan]

This is a decision made by a private institution.

What does the country have to do with it?

If you read my previous posts, I acknowledged this argument and agreed that the girl should have either stuck with wearing a headscarf (without veil) and that the school should have clearly prohibited face covering if they wanted to.

What the country has to do with it is that discrimination based on religion (or dressing style, for that matter) is against the country's tolerant laws and values.

The post you quoted was in response to you saying that we're a minority and they don't have to care about us, to which I replied that the country legally gives equal rights to minorities.

 

[Dubious]

Stop confusing state and a private school.

Yes but the private school is also running in a country where it is obliged to its laws just like when opening an Islamic school...be it a private one it has to follow certain set of rules...and btw, I have posted what the headmistress said about the rules of the school as not having a uniform but a dress code....

 

[A.M.]

If you read my previous posts, I acknowledged this argument and agreed that the girl should have either stuck with wearing a headscarf (without veil) and that the school should have clearly prohibited face covering if they wanted to.

What the country has to do with it is that discrimination based on religion (or dressing style, for that matter) is against the country's tolerant laws and values.

The post you quoted was in response to you saying that we're a minority and they don't have to care about us, to which I replied that the country legally gives equal rights to minorities.

The state should not have power over private schools. That is ludicrous.

Public schools are a different issue.

 

[Dubious]

Stop confusing state and a private school.

I am surprised you living in America where if anything is not present in black or white ends up in court room cases....

The state should not have power over private schools. That is ludicrous.

Public schools are a different issue.

He already clarified:

The post you quoted was in response to you saying that we're a minority and they don't have to care about us, to which I replied that the country legally gives equal rights to minorities.