The Weird Truth About Arabic Numerals

[Azadkashmir]

 

[khansaheeb]

It begs the question, how could anyone do any real maths without numbers, decimals and algebra. This guy enunciates typical colonial European BS that the greeks were the creator of maths which is utter nonsense. The Eygyptians were even more advance and were the first ones to create and use Pi.

He says Al-Khawarizmi didnt come up with algebra the Indians did, ok provide the evidence. HE can't because there isn't anything but no doubt the Hindjews will create something in their spin works.

 

[zartosht]

at least he got the fact that khawarizmi was Persian right....

how pathetic are Arabs to take credit for Persians/Iranians.... You see this with azerbademjan as well.

If it weren't for the miraculous circumstances of a highly advanced civilization that was in a period of extreme turmoil/weak. while the desert monkeys were at their apex and managed to take over bueracracy/coinage/ governace etc... that propelled them to expand....

If circumstances were slightly differerent, Islam today would be a small cultish religion at best, banished to desert region of arabia. RIP shapur…. if only you were alive in the 7th century~

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

What an idiot claiming AlJabra is not made by Muslims

 

[HannibalBarca]

at least he got the fact that khawarizmi was Persian right....

how pathetic are Arabs to take credit for Persians/Iranians.... You see this with azerbademjan as well.

If it weren't for the miraculous circumstances of a highly advanced civilization that was in a period of extreme turmoil/weak. while the desert monkeys were at their apex and managed to take over bueracracy/coinage/ governace etc... that propelled them to expand....

If circumstances were slightly differerent, Islam today would be a small cultish religion at best, banished to desert region of arabia. RIP shapur…. if only you were alive in the 7th century~

'You Plan and Allah Plans and Allah is the Best of Planners'

 

[xyxmt]

at least he got the fact that khawarizmi was Persian right....

how pathetic are Arabs to take credit for Persians/Iranians.... You see this with azerbademjan as well.

If it weren't for the miraculous circumstances of a highly advanced civilization that was in a period of extreme turmoil/weak. while the desert monkeys were at their apex and managed to take over bueracracy/coinage/ governace etc... that propelled them to expand....

If circumstances were slightly differerent, Islam today would be a small cultish religion at best, banished to desert region of arabia. RIP shapur…. if only you were alive in the 7th century~

in reality most "Persian" philosopher/scientists were Afghans, back then Afghanistan was part of persian empire

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

how pathetic are Arabs to take credit for Persians/Iranians.... You see this with azerbademjan as well.

Arabs take credit for them the same reason other Muslims do. Because these people were the product of Islamic civilisation, that spread from Spain to China. Make no mistake, these people identified as Muslim, not as Persian/Arab/Turkic/Sindhi/whatever nationalists.

the desert monkeys

You do realise that you're related to them, right?

http://realiran.org/national-geographic-iranian-natives-genetic-makeup-is-56-percent-arabian/

Islam today would be a small cultish religion at best

No, Allah would still allow Islam to spread like wildfire and crush Ctesiphon and Constantinople one way or another.

 

[Tokhme khar]

Sure they were.....lol.....Afghani can't tell their asss from a hole in the ground! Even today!

FYI......Afghanistan was part of Persia until 1856.

in reality most "Persian" philosopher/scientists were Afghans, back then Afghanistan was part of persian empire

 

[MultaniGuy]

Nonsense.

Algebra itself comes from Arabic words Al Jabr.

Whoever says otherwise is an idiot and does not know history.

Same with alcohol which is an Arabic word.

Its no hidden secret that Kafirs try to use information propaganda to weaken the recognition of achievements done by Islamic civilization.

Another point I would like to make is that well what are the presenter's credentials in the video.

What are his intellectual credentials? Is he a scholar? Is he a historian? He is just some guy ranting on YouTube which anyone can do.

If you want real information go look in some accredited history book or encyclopedia.

I wonder what Britannica says about Algebra and its origins.

 

[Tokhme khar]

I have seen turks here call maulana rumi a turk, and arab people call Khwarizmi as arab. Next they will claim Razi and avicenna were hendi or arab too......lol

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

I have seen turks here call maulana rumi a turk, and arab people call Khwarizmi as arab. Next they will claim Razi and avicenna were hendi or arab too......lol

In all fairness, Rumi spent the heyday of his career under the influence of Turkic culture in Turkey, and Khwarizmi was only able to achieve what he did because of what Arabs before him had done. Almost nobody does anything from scratch, we almost all borrow from a previous source.

And their ethnicity really isn't relevant. The main identity at the time was being Muslim, and even for the less religious ones they certainly weren't ethnic nationalists.

 

[TMA]

I have seen turks here call maulana rumi a turk, and arab people call Khwarizmi as arab. Next they will claim Razi and avicenna were hendi or arab too......lol

It is understandable why they do this. But he was a Persian from co-terminous Afghanistan.

in reality most "Persian" philosopher/scientists were Afghans, back then Afghanistan was part of persian empire

Well even today about 30% of Afghans are Persian, they just call themselves Tajik.
And back then Afghan would only mean Pukhtoon (if it is true that Afghanistan is 5000 years old).

Co-terminous Afghanistan was part of various Persian speaking empires, which is not the same as Persian empire....I mean the Gurkhan e Mughal was Persian speaking...would you call it Persian Empire....
The last true Persian empire was the Sassani which was overtaken by the Muslim Arabs...then they were many Persianized Turkic rulers of co-termious Iran and Afghanistan and even India (true India never really had native Persians unlike the former two), and it was centuries later when a Persian leader probably arose such as Nader Shah to make modern day Persia and then Iran...perhaps the Iranian members could correct me....I suppose some might consider the Safavi as the re-instigators of the Persian Empire but although they were Iranian, they were not ethnically Persian but Azeri....

Arabs take credit for them the same reason other Muslims do. Because these people were the product of Islamic civilisation, that spread from Spain to China. Make no mistake, these people identified as Muslim, not as Persian/Arab/Turkic/Sindhi/whatever nationalists.



You do realise that you're related to them, right?

http://realiran.org/national-geographic-iranian-natives-genetic-makeup-is-56-percent-arabian/



No, Allah would still allow Islam to spread like wildfire and crush Ctesiphon and Constantinople one way or another.

No they did identify with their ethnicities as well as being Muslims...but not in the nationalist sense of today.
Islam has not come to eradicate ethnicities and cultures but to purify them of the bad leaving the good.

I mean in one sense they were Arab...if you speak Arabic you can become Arab....

 

[Tokhme khar]

Mate today the national languages of both Afghanistan and Tajikistan are Persian! When we meet Afghani or Tajik people we totally understand them. They speak our language.

The entire western and northern Afghanistan is ethnic Persian speakers. The one's who speak pashto language border your country. They comprise less than 40% of Afghani population. Lets at least get the facts right.

And no we don't have any imperial design on these Persian speakers. Just don't want some rabid takfiri sawdi funded regimes to come to power and talk shit against Iran. Other than that we don't give a toss.

It is understandable why they do this. But he was a Persian from co-terminous Afghanistan.


Well even today about 30% of Afghans are Persian, they just call themselves Tajik.
And back then Afghan would only mean Pukhtoon (if it is true that Afghanistan is 5000 years old).

Co-terminous Afghanistan was part of various Persian speaking empires, which is not the same as Persian empire....I mean the Gurkhan e Mughal was Persian speaking...would you call it Persian Empire....
The last true Persian empire was the Sassani which was overtaken by the Muslim Arabs...then they were many Persianized Turkic rulers of co-termious Iran and Afghanistan and even India (true India never really had native Persians unlike the former two), and it was centuries later when a Persian leader probably arose such as Nader Shah to make modern day Persia and then Iran...perhaps the Iranian members could correct me....I suppose some might consider the Safavi as the re-instigators of the Persian Empire but although they were Iranian, they were not ethnically Persian but Azeri....


No they did identify with their ethnicities as well as being Muslims...but not in the nationalist sense of today.
Islam has not come to eradicate ethnicities and cultures but to purify them of the bad leaving the good.

I mean in one sense they were Arab...if you speak Arabic you can become Arab....

 

[Imad.Khan]

at least he got the fact that khawarizmi was Persian right....

how pathetic are Arabs to take credit for Persians/Iranians.... You see this with azerbademjan as well.

If it weren't for the miraculous circumstances of a highly advanced civilization that was in a period of extreme turmoil/weak. while the desert monkeys were at their apex and managed to take over bueracracy/coinage/ governace etc... that propelled them to expand....

If circumstances were slightly differerent, Islam today would be a small cultish religion at best, banished to desert region of arabia. RIP shapur…. if only you were alive in the 7th century~

he was from Uzbekistan not Iran, Uzbeks are Turkic people not Persians

 

[PakSarzameen5823]

No they did identify with their ethnicities as well as being Muslims...but not in the nationalist sense of today.

That's what I said.

The one's who speak pashto language border your country. They comprise less than 40% of Afghani population.

They are the dominant ethnic group and the country is literally named after them.