The Murder of Osama Bin Laden. U S Pakistan Partners in Crime Seymour Hersh

[thesolar65]

Can't India offer 25m for Dawood? Someone will definitely fall for it!!

 

[salarsikander]

ISI was always hiding OBL, they sold him out to keep the flow of dollars coming in. Only goes on further to prove that ISI continues to harbor plenty of such people. ISI is also hiding, Haqqani/ TTP top leaders/ Zawahiri. ISI and the uniformed jihadis of Pak have one purpose and that is to rule the land in fear. There is a reason why Pak's greatest export will always be terrorism.

Hi,
Been a while since you came out of that little cave of yours, where have you been all these years?
now that you have finally come out. Please have enough courage as normal indian would do to display your national flag.
Since youre here why not have a new start and move on in a civilized manner.

If you have something back it up with evidence, feel free to share like rest of the member are doing. Simple cheap desi rants will only result in your permanent ban.

Enjoy the stay and quit the cheap desi mentality

 

[Dubious]

The thing is---Obama claiming to be so clever and sharp---by blaming Pakistan--what was he thinking of doing to Pakistan----.

Laying the stepping stones for the already questionable reputation to jump to tarnished reputation level.....So bad it was echoed repeatedly to brain wash people....

 

[Sage]

@MastanKhan Hersh is just stuffing up the things ...His article is not making any sense to me ...I read it almost 4 times and there are questions which can discard his 10,000 words off to air ....At first I though, I would write a counter reply to Hersh ...but now I see too much rubbish to answer ....!

 

[Tiger Genie]

Does this really matter?

1) Obama was found near Pakistani base, very close to it. Pakistani military is supposed to have been looking for him. They either failed making them very incompetent or they hid him, making them cheats. Either case Obama and the U.S. had a right to make public fools out of them in retaliation for the double play.

2) If Kayani and Pasha knew off the American raid, that'd make the military and ISI infinitely incompetent. It is inconceivable that Pasha and Kayani can have gathered field intelligence personally - meaning there must be a bunch of people in ISI / military that found out, informed Kayani and then kept mum. That none of them opened their mouth after the raid and expose Kayani tells us that they either were part of the scheme to share in the spoils or were too embarrassed to admit. Either case, again, the choices are gross incompetence and treasonous greed.

3) if the Americans found OBL and informed Kayani and Pasha with warnings not to publicise, and if those two kept it to themselves without acting, that'd actually be proof of treasonous greed. Check their bank accounts globally to confirm or reject that theory.

4) the most likely scenario, going by the Fact that pAK American relationship went into total and open disaster mode after the raid, is that Pakistani leadership - military and intelligence - were holding OBL for a price and the right moment. Americans beat them in their own game and all that was left was to choose between incompetence and treason. They chose incompetence naturally as treason would mean death penalty.

Obama got lucky.

 

[MastanKhan]

Laying the stepping stones for the already questionable reputation to jump to tarnished reputation level.....So bad it was echoed repeatedly to brain wash people....

Hi,

Thank you for your post----you are my favourite girl.

Looking back at what had happened---it is becoming very obvious that Obama had same plans for Pakistan that he had for Libya---Pakistan's utility had reached its natural end----Afghanistan was smashed and so was Iraq---Libya to be smashed and Syria next in line and then turn around and castrate Pakistan.

The drama about Osama by Obama was to utilize the opportunity to show Pakistan as a pariah nation in front of the world---humiliate it---degrade it---get the world ready to take action against it----it was all going as planned till their creation ISIS turned on them and instilled havoc in Syria and Irag and then started recruiting thru out the world and started attacking the centers of white power.

A confused America----and an equally confused Obama---like a deer lost in the glares of coming head lights----just kept mumbling about whatever while isis took over the region.

I think that Pakistanis should be happy that Seymour Hersh came out with this article to smash the image of the united states---I mean to say--who could have dared uttered anything against the U S of A awhile back.

Pakistanis already know that Gen Kiyani was a coward and a petty thief----they also know that Gen Pasha was equally gutless without a backbone.

This news is a good thing for Pakistan----. They should take it as a positive----simply wave the hand at the US and say " hey man we love you too ".

 

[Dubious]

Thank you for your post----you are my favourite girl.

thank you

This news is a good thing for Pakistan----. They should take it as a positive----simply wave the hand at the US and say " hey man we love you too ".

 

[Tiger Genie]

Hi,

Thank you for your post----you are my favourite girl.

Looking back at what had happened---it is becoming very obvious that Obama had same plans for Pakistan that he had for Libya---Pakistan's utility had reached its natural end----Afghanistan was smashed and so was Iraq---Libya to be smashed and Syria next in line and then turn around and castrate Pakistan.

The drama about Osama by Obama was to utilize the opportunity to show Pakistan as a pariah nation in front of the world---humiliate it---degrade it---get the world ready to take action against it----it was all going as planned till their creation ISIS turned on them and instilled havoc in Syria and Irag and then started recruiting thru out the world and started attacking the centers of white power.

A confused America----and an equally confused Obama---like a deer lost in the glares of coming head lights----just kept mumbling about whatever while isis took over the region.

I think that Pakistanis should be happy that Seymour Hersh came out with this article to smash the image of the united states---I mean to say--who could have dared uttered anything against the U S of A awhile back.

Pakistanis already know that Gen Kiyani was a coward and a petty thief----they also know that Gen Pasha was equally gutless without a backbone.

This news is a good thing for Pakistan----. They should take it as a positive----simply wave the hand at the US and say " hey man we love you too ".

Motive for Obama wanting to destroy Pakistan? Surely he knew Pakistan had dozens if not hundreds of nukes as opposed to Libya which was at best an aspirant.

And how does it gel that each general is the greatest as long as he is in power and nothing but a coward or traitor once he leaves office.

 

[MastanKhan]

thank you

That is funny-----. Well I guess that is what the Pakistanis should do.

 

[Shamain]

@MastanKhan Hersh is just stuffing up the things ...His article is not making any sense to me ...I read it almost 4 times and there are questions which can discard his 10,000 words off to air ....At first I though, I would write a counter reply to Hersh ...but now I feel to much rubbish to answer ....!

So true, sensationalism.

Idont believe any osama was sitting there. Would isi be so stupi to keep such sensitive target or whatever is the right term here , in such populous area,

This osama in pakistan story is like a cash cow which every now and then will keep getting milked by west journalists.

Dont be surprised to come across more such reports in upcoming years.
The whole osama drama was a plain face saving for usa

 

[Dubious]

So true, sensationalism.

Idont believe any osama was sitting there. Would isi be so stupi to keep such sensitive target or whatever is the right term here , in such populous area,

This osama in pakistan story is like a cash cow which every now and then will keep getting milked by west journalists.

Dont be surprised to come across more such reports in upcoming years.
The whole osama drama was a plain face saving for usa

Article actually states Osama was prob sitting there under ISI who were using him as a negotiation tool against Talibans...

 

[Shamain]

Article actually states Osama was prob sitting there under ISI who were using him as a negotiation tool against Talibans...

Yes iknow

 

[Sage]

So true, sensationalism.

Idont believe any osama was sitting there. Would isi be so stupi to keep such sensitive target or whatever is the right term here , in such populous area,

This osama in pakistan story is like a cash cow which every now and then will keep getting milked by west journalists.

Dont be surprised to come across more such reports in upcoming years.
The whole osama drama was a plain face saving for usa

But those tail-rotors, power cut-off, that secluded house, US President declaring they killed OBL in there ....these are also points to ponder ?

 

[Shamain]

But those tail-rotors, power cut-off, that secluded house, US President declaring they killed OBL in there ....these are also points to ponder

where iget confused is how radars didnt detect choppers or why that was overlooked.
And as of americn pesident , well these people created fake narrative to attack iraq, so dont see how another orchestrted drama would be a big deal

 

[my2cents]

@MastanKhan I love your style Ha Ha Ha.
@my2cents

Your making a positive assertion that Pak knew about OBL. Something US government has denied. What proof do you have that is so strong that it overrides what US has said.

Maybe you got access to classified US files?

Let me ask you a question. What was the need for the navy seals to do the raid in the night? They want to avoid detection and exposure. From whom? My logic says that Americans did not trust Pakistan and hence the raid to eliminate OBL. You can read in between the lines.