Osama Bin Laden raid revisted, the other perspectives, Pakistani locals in Abbottabad do not believe Osama bin Laden was in the city

[my2cents]

I don't care about American propaganda you Indiot.

People in the Middle East and in Pakistan don't believe the American narrative on 9/11 to the Osama Bin Laden raid in Abbottabad.

Even after 9/11, in the year 2005 Anti-American sentiment was at an all time high in Saudi Arabia.


Sorry but for a person with American flags, the cat would have been out of the bag.

I disagree with you. Someone would have noticed that Arabs are around.

We disagree then. But don't be so moronic to compare nuclear weapons for a wanted man.

nuclear weapons can be controlled. Humans cannot be.


lol, behind closed doors in Saudi Arabia, this is what most people believe in that part of the world.

There is trust factor that comes to play when you examine Pakistan narrative. You guys have been milking the US for billions of dollars on your WOT , natural instinct for your establishment is to lie about Obama. This is not the first time they lied to you. Remember Kargil, they lied to you about your army involvement.

 

[SQ8]

Bin Laden’s Wives’ Stories of Post-9/11 Life Cast More Suspicion on Pakistan

Read Bruce Riedel's discussion on the lives of Bin Laden's wives after 9/11 based on recent testimony.

www.google.com

Go watch this and extrapolate
https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0266987/

 

[SQ8]

I don't care about American propaganda you Indiot.

People in the Middle East and in Pakistan don't believe the American narrative on 9/11 to the Osama Bin Laden raid in Abbottabad.

Even after 9/11, in the year 2005 Anti-American sentiment was at an all time high in Saudi Arabia.


Sorry but for a person with American flags, the cat would have been out of the bag.

I disagree with you. Someone would have noticed that Arabs are around.

We disagree then. But don't be so moronic to compare nuclear weapons for a wanted man.

nuclear weapons can be controlled. Humans cannot be.


lol, behind closed doors in Saudi Arabia, this is what most people believe in that part of the world.

You are the actual moron resorting to personal attacks when your points are falling flat and being defensive.
Be very careful where you go with that because no one gives a hoot how many posts you have if you cannot be civil.

You think that somehow because Bin Laden’s associates were roaming around somehow talking to Pakistanis and telling them who they were they wouldn’t also be cut off from others that don’t want the news to be out?

The nuclear weapons are a great example when it comes to having the obvious live amongst the oblivious - try grasping that. If there are efforts made you can hide both people and things in plain sight from at least the general public.

Do you know who lived in Karachi for years since the 90s? close to where a famous stock broker lives?
Everyone knew he was there yet no one talked about him - now he isn’t there but many of us knew he was there. Why?
Because someone from a certain political party was involved and they talked and rumors spread like wildfire. Otherwise that man would have lived in Karachi for eternity and unless something similar to the OBL op was done no one would know he was there.(although that man was less of a recluse and went around the country and to Dubai frequently as well)

Did everyone from the Chief down know this man was in Karachi? Possibly
Did everyone from the Chief down know OBL was in Abbotabad? Maybe, or maybe they found out someone from the agency had been hiding him and then panicked to keep him out of the way to stop the narrative that operatives of Pakistani intelligence was harboring terrorists.

Unfortunately, the proof will escape you thinking Pakistanis are all knowing clean hands who had no idea Nawaz Sharif was corrupt or that Musharraf was the next best thing to sliced bread.. meanwhile Mushy leading Establishment Incorporation was reaping in CSF and bounties on rather spurious leads.

 

[Trango Towers]

If you are going to lie...

Make it big and keep repeating it until they belive u

 

[MultaniGuy]

You are the actual moron resorting to personal attacks when your points are falling flat and being defensive.
Be very careful where you go with that because no one gives a hoot how many posts you have if you cannot be civil.

You think that somehow because Bin Laden’s associates were roaming around somehow talking to Pakistanis and telling them who they were they wouldn’t also be cut off from others that don’t want the news to be out?

The nuclear weapons are a great example when it comes to having the obvious live amongst the oblivious - try grasping that. If there are efforts made you can hide both people and things in plain sight from at least the general public.

Do you know who lived in Karachi for years since the 90s? close to where a famous stock broker lives?
Everyone knew he was there yet no one talked about him - now he isn’t there but many of us knew he was there. Why?
Because someone from a certain political party was involved and they talked and rumors spread like wildfire. Otherwise that man would have lived in Karachi for eternity and unless something similar to the OBL op was done no one would know he was there.(although that man was less of a recluse and went around the country and to Dubai frequently as well)

Did everyone from the Chief down know this man was in Karachi? Possibly
Did everyone from the Chief down know OBL was in Abbotabad? Maybe, or maybe they found out someone from the agency had been hiding him and then panicked to keep him out of the way to stop the narrative that operatives of Pakistani intelligence was harboring terrorists.

Unfortunately, the proof will escape you thinking Pakistanis are all knowing clean hands who had no idea Nawaz Sharif was corrupt or that Musharraf was the next best thing to sliced bread.. meanwhile Mushy leading Establishment Incorporation was reaping in CSF and bounties on rather spurious leads.

Ummm...moron there was an Indian pretending to be a Canadian here saying Pakistani should be embarrassed because Osama Bin Laden was found in Pakistan.

lol...what nonsense. Why should we feel embarrassed? I feel very proud to be Pakistani and of Pakistani descent you Indian baboons.

Wanted criminals can be found anywhere. What about war criminals such as the Nazis in Germany or Japanese general Hideki Tojo in Japan?

So stop being idiotic. criminals can be found anywhere and everywhere.

 

[maverick1977]

There is a word within army itsself, that establishment led by Kayani and Zardari orchestrated it to make money...

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

No corpse, no video.

Maybe his 3 wives who were living there were shacked up with other men.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Hey Indiot,

There was like a 5 billion dollar bounty on Osama Bin Laden's head.

Surely someone would have turned him in to USA.

What would be the point of hiding a man who killed 3000 people?


Haha, yeah about burying him in the Sea.

The Salafi Sunnis don't believe in making shrines or any of that crap. lol.

Someone did. They spotted his bodyguard and the CIA tracked him back to Abbottabad. If it wasn't for that guy they never would have found him.

Plus remember this other guy

Pakistan will not free doctor who helped U.S. find bin Laden

A jailed Pakistani doctor believed to have helped the CIA hunt down al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden will be neither released nor handed to the United States, Pakistan's law minister has told legislators, media reported on Wednesday.

www.reuters.com

I think his 33 year jail sentence was for more than just tattling on some women's location.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Hi,

Why should pakistan be held responsible.

The problem with pakistanis is that they cannot talk back to the americans.

The US had multiple chances to kill OBL---they intentionally let him escape.

OBL's escape was already a part of the bigger picture bythe americans---to setup pakistan and pummel it to the ground when needed.

Pres George Bush standing on the aircraft carrier stated---" he does not care about OBL anymore---OBL accounts to nothing---we are not interested in chasing OBL anymore---".

His speech is in the public domain---. Pakistanis are idiots---theyu never used the american pres words against him.

If the US had wanted OBL so bad---they would have their regular troops on the ground to pursue him at the start of the war.

But no regular troops were on the ground..

Two hours he was on the drone camera in kandhar---nothing happened.

For 48 hours he was surrounded at Tora Bora and US military let him escape intentionally.

lol, I completely agree with you. Why should we Pakistanis be held responsible for a mass murderer of 3000 people?

Had I known where Osama Bin Laden was hiding I would have turned him in to USA for the billion dollar bounty on his head. lol.

 

[ARMalik]

Establishment would probably disagree.. surely they wouldn't be willing to sink the country and it's reputation just for kickbacks??.. a parasite does need its host to stay alive, just long enough to find another host *cough* *Cough* all expenses paid retirement to the west.. *

Cough, cough - Saint NEUTRALS did not facilitate US for this fake drama. Cough cough - The saints did not take any US Dollar Bribes, in fact they asked for British Pounds and Euro ! The Saints did not buy Mansions in US - they bought it in Belgium, and did not buy Dominos Franchise but bought Papa John Franchise. Nope - the Neutral didn't get any Green cards. Shi.t this cough is getting really bad.

 

[nope]

Fvck off Indiot. No it wasn't it.

yea it was I know considering half the country's leaving in 71 and becoming more prosperous

loosing every war you started , Siachen ,Kargil and the general state and decline of the country

however finding the most wanted terrorist in the word after a decade under the nose of the Pakistani military establishment destroyed Pakistan credibility not it had much of it in the beginning

We are very proud to be Pakistanis.

Not as embarrassing of having the most poverty like in India.


Or people shitting in the streets of India.

there is no shame being poor or being born into harsh circumstances your country I remind you is not a first world nation like Sweden japan Finland or Germany its just as much a sh*thole like India if not worse

 

[MultaniGuy]

yea it was I know considering half the country's leaving in 71 and becoming more prosperous

loosing every war you started , Siachen ,Kargil and the general state and decline of the country

however finding the most wanted terrorist in the word after a decade under the nose of the Pakistani military establishment destroyed Pakistan credibility not it had much of it in the beginning

there is no shame being poor or being born into harsh circumstances your country I remind you is not a first world nation like Sweden japan Finland or Germany its just as much a sh*thole like India if not worse

Hey Indiot, why are you living in Canada as well. Hypocrite. Hey Indiot why are you on a Pakistani forum or why don't you show your true flags.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Bin laden compound was traced after his wife left Iran in 2010, under mysterious circumstances . Iranian most probably struck a deal like they did for providing Intel on Iraq .

 

[MultaniGuy]

Hillary Clinton on Bin Laden Death: No One Watching 'Could Breathe for 35 Minutes'​

By Dana Hughes April 11, 2012

Hillary Clinton spoke bluntly about Syria, North Korea and the death of Osama bin Laden at the U.S. Naval Academy Tuesday, where as the keynote speaker at the close of a foreign policy conference she revealed that none of those watching the operation that killed the al Qaeda leader last year "could breathe for 30-35 minutes."
The Secretary of State prepared remarks on U.S. strategy in the Asia-Pacific region for the conference, but later took questions from the young future officers about any topic.
Though most of the evening focused on current global challenges to American foreign policy, the secretary's most poignant words were about the man responsible for the largest loss of life on American soil in modern history - Osama bin Laden.
When a student asked Clinton to reflect on bin Laden's death and the process leading up to the Navy Seal mission that killed him last May, she began by talking about her time as a senator from New York during 9/11, and how many of her constituents were affected by the terror attack. She said even all those years ago, she didn't believe there wasn't "anybody in Pakistan who doesn't know where Bin Laden is."
As she gave a play-by-play account of the day Bin Laden was killed, she recalled how none of the officials in the room watching the operation, including President Obama, "could breathe for 30-35 minutes."
Clinton also shared how moved she was when she saw the spontaneous gathering of young people, mostly college students, at the gates of the White House as Obama announced Bin Laden's death. She reflected on what that announcement meant to those constituents who lost so much on 9/11.
"They could think about the future in a way they hadn't been able to before," Secretary Clinton told the students, smiling as she said that closure made her very pleased.
Earlier, one of the midshipmen asked Clinton her thoughts on the diplomatic efforts to resolve the violence in Syria. Describing the continued stand-off with Russia as "frustrating," Clinton said she expected the G-8 conference beginning tomorrow, featuring foreign ministers from eight of the world's largest economies, to be a "rough couple of days" given Russia's deep ties to the Assad regime and it's unwillingness to stop supporting Syria. Clinton threatened that the U.S. and other allies may go back to the U.N. Security Council and force Russia to either veto or abstain on a new resolution condemning the violence.
"There doesn't seem to be any other pass than that one right now," Clinton said, vowing to keep pushing for a resolution, particularly one allowing humanitarian action into the country.
It's estimated up to ten thousand people have been killed in the conflict in Syria, which continues as a deadline for a truce set by U.N. Special Envoy Kofi Annan passes.
"We are not going to give up until we can get some action," Clinton said.
The Secretary of State's keynote speech centered on U.S. Asia-Pacific policy and she called North Korea's impending satellite launch a provocation that threatens the security of the region.
Clinton said the U.S. along with Japan, South Korea, Russia and China will work in "sending a clear message to Pyongyang that true security only will come from living up to its commitments and obligations." But in contrast Clinton praised Myanmar, which she refers to as Burma, as a country that was once rogue but is now engaging with America and the world, and is better because of it.
"Much of the history of the 21 st century is being written before our eyes," Secretary Clinton said. "And a quick glance at Burma and North Korea shows that we have a deep stake in how that history plays out."

Hillary Clinton on Bin Laden Death: No One Watching 'Could Breathe for 35 Minutes'

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abcnews.go.com

Hillary Clinton thought there is nobody in Pakistan who does not know where Osama Bin Laden is? lol.

I don't know where Osama Bin Laden is whether dead or alive. lol.

Then bring proof of those accomplices who wanted to hide the mass murderer, so they too can be brought to justice.

Did you actually think 242 million people in Pakistan would hide a mass murderer?

 

[MultaniGuy]

lol, so it is doubtful of who did 9/11.

It was suggested that Hamid Gul should be listed as an international terrorist, but China rejected that suggestion, lol.
@beijingwalker
@kankan326



lol, it appears Mr. Hamid Gul has his own take on the Osama Bin Laden raid as well.