The murder of history in Pakistan

[somebozo]

My understanding is that the Quran is primarily a spiritual scripture, following the line of Abrahamic religion. If you've read it, you'd know that very few verses actually talk about political rules and laws. Most of the verses are devoted to a person's connection with Allah and stories/allegories from past events.

The political rules/laws in the quran may've been suitable and pragmatic for 7th century nomadic society, but not for 21st for sure. But spiritual part (which is the majority of the book) are fine.

That was exactly my answer to the trolls! Much of the quran has nothing to do with laws or anything - its mostly medieval history.

 

[Srinivas]

No Sir it is written no where

I have listened to Qadri and he told that, may be he is referring the end of Islam equal to end of world and Judgement day.

 

[Zarvan]

I have listened to Qadri and he told that, may be he is referring the end of Islam equal to end of world and Judgement.

Their is nothing of this sort written in the Quran and also I have never heard this kind of Hadees ever

 

[somebozo]

Islam has always spread on its own right now in USA and Europe and other countries it is spreading on its own sir and it is growing really very fast



No Sir it is written no where

and the source of your statstics are?

Islam is definitely spreading like wild fire in the slums of Brooklyn and Leeds - thanks to petrodollars mixed with bored, frustrated and unemployed youth.

@somebozo Creation of SATAN makes GOD a tyrant who unleashes hell on mankind just to make the mankind realize who is the boss

And so GOD fearing people not GOD loving.

The constant fear of evil and god infused into young minds at the ripe age creates patients of Scrupulosity who are confused and doubtful through out their lives falling from one dark hole into another. This create a willing manpower for terrorist activities.

 

[Spring Onion]

Modern tenets of state building call for:

Equality among citizens
Security of life, liberty and possessions at all costs.
Equal rights to social welfare, justice and family inheritance.All of this is missing from Quran.

If we were to live in a perfectly Islamist society the state should discriminate among its Muslims and non-Muslim subjects and impose additional taxes on the non-Muslims entire due to their faith - very racist policy.

Women cannot bear a lot of facilities and rights men are awarded and they get half of men in family inheritance - which again is a medivial age idea.

A female testimony is considered half of man - once again a medieval idea when woman was considered half of man.

For the incest committing Bedouin Arabs who treated women worst than their cattle - off-course Islam was the shining light. It rescued the female from being buried alive at birth to a minuscule right to life under the veil.

All the above things were missing in Post-Islam societies.

Islam/Quran gave these rights to women and also social welfare social security nets which were missing.

Your so-called moderen world even did not have right to inheritance even till few decades ago.
It was more than a bold step by Islam to gave women such rights in an Arab society at that time which was always at war

I have read quran over and over and over and was put into a madrassah at an early age by my parents. Due to my inquisitive nature I never quite agreed with what was being shoved down my throat therefore was frequently suspended or beaten with a PVC pipe.

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Being in madrassa shows why you have such state-of-mind viz a viz Islam. as i earlier said we dont need mullas. what is taught in most madrassas is misinterpretation with quoting half verse for their own motives.

Stupidity in religion.

First God creates Satan and give him conscience.

Then god asks Satan to bow down to Adam - who is made if mud. And satan refuses saying he is superior for being made of fire. A logical claim by someone with conscience.

So god banishes Satan but accords him one last wish and satan wishes for the freedom to misguide mankind as much as he please and god willfully awards Satan the wish to mislead his creation and lead them to hell - idiotic as it may get!

So God creates satan, give him consciences, punishes him for thinking logically, gives him the freedom to mislead his creation and creates heaven and hell...Serious..WTF dude!

All ibrahimic religions share the story.

However what is your and those Indians' view (who have thanked you for bashing islam) ON stories about ram, kali, and shiv ling etc etc. do you see it as stupidity in religion or a sane approach ?

 

[Srinivas]

The constant fear of evil and god infused into young minds at the ripe age creates patients of Scrupulosity who are confused and doubtful through out their lives falling from one dark hole into another. This create a willing manpower for terrorist activities.

The whole Idea of GOD is to create fear among individuals so that they will some how obey the social order

 

[Zarvan]

and the source of your statstics are?

Islam is definitely spreading like wild fire in the slums of Brooklyn and Leeds - thanks to petrodollars mixed with bored, frustrated and unemployed youth.




The constant fear of evil and god infused into young minds at the ripe age creates patients of Scrupulosity who are confused and doubtful through out their lives falling from one dark hole into another. This create a willing manpower for terrorist activities.

NBC NEWS: 20000 Americans Convert To ISLAM Each Year ! - YouTube
Most who are converting are educated people not poor Sir Many of them are doctors engineers and other people in jobs
The Islamification of Britain: record numbers embrace Muslim faith - Home News - UK - The Independent
But touts of Abu Juhals and enemies of Islam can only talk **** and lies which they always have tried to stop spread of Islam and have failed every time

 

[scorpionx]

The whole Idea of GOD is to create fear among individuals so that they will some how obey the social order

your Avataar.

 

[Zarvan]

The whole Idea of GOD is to create fear among individuals so that they will some how obey the social order

GOD is not the idea but the reality biggest reality of the universe

 

[Spring Onion]

Can you elaborate on the part "GOD said to Mohammed(PUBH) that Islam will end in 1000 years(one GOD day) from the date it came to existence .

Then Mohammed (PUBH) asked another half GOD day (500 years) and GOD agreed.

where you had read it? nowhere we had even seen that. seems mininformation through internet is rampant against Islam

 

[Srinivas]

your Avataar.

My Avatar is famous for flirting with Women and so I used it.

where you had read it? nowhere we had even seen that. seems mininformation through internet is rampant against Islam

I heard from Tahrir-ul-Qadri, I state only facts not misinfo.

Muslim Ummah will end after 1500 years of Islam came into existence.

 

[somebozo]

All the above things were missing in Post-Islam societies.

Islam/Quran gave these rights to women and also social welfare social security nets which were missing.

Your so-called moderen world even did not have right to inheritance even till few decades ago.
It was more than a bold step by Islam to gave women such rights in an Arab society at that time which was always at war

Thats what i said, it was good for the backward arabs who never rubbed shoulders with civilization. It gave them something however for the rest of the civilized world it meant nothing. To give a solid example, Khadija the wife of Muhammed lived as a widow, inheritied wealth from her husband upon death and ran her own business without depending on any mahram. So the view you have proposed is a typical and stupid Islamist doctrine aimed at painting black and white picture.


In contrast much of the inhabitants of Arabia, Roman-Arabia and Persia fled on the advent of Islamist invasion. They choose exile rather than living under the "golden rules of Islam" speaks volumes about something. Definitely they were unwilling to submit to something inferior. By the way the first declaration of Human rights was written in Persia some 4000+ years ago.

If Hindus were to live by Hinduism today, they would remain enslaved by colonial powers. What makes India strong and cohesive today is its modren tenets of state building - Hindu nationalism adversely affects Indian national unity.

Being in madrassa shows why you have such state-of-mind viz a viz Islam. as i earlier said we dont need mullas. what is taught in most madrassas is misinterpretation with quoting half verse for their own motives.

Going to madrassa enlighten me in the later years with better understand of power, politics and religion at play.

All ibrahimic religions share the story.

However what is your and those Indians' view (who have thanked you for bashing islam) ON stories about ram, kali, and shiv ling etc etc. do you see it as stupidity in religion or a sane approach ?

I maintain that they are equally absurd and idiotic.

 

[scorpionx]

Religion is not equal to fanatics. Because of the fanatics all over the world,the true meaning of religion seems to have vanished today.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Thats what i said, it was good for the backward arabs who never rubbed shoulders with civilization. It gave them something however for the rest of the civilized world it meant nothing. To give a solid example, Khadija the wife of Muhammed lived as a widow, inheritied wealth from her husband upon death and ran her own business without depending on any mahram. So the view you have proposed is a typical and stupid Islamist doctrine aimed at painting black and white picture.


In contrast much of the inhabitants of Arabia, Roman-Arabia and Persia fled on the advent of Islamist invasion. They choose exile rather than living under the "golden rules of Islam" speaks volumes about something. Definitely they were unwilling to submit to something inferior. By the way the first declaration of Human rights was written in Persia some 4000+ years ago.

If Hindus were to live by Hinduism today, they would remain enslaved by colonial powers. What makes India strong and cohesive today is its modren tenets of state building - Hindu nationalism adversely affects Indian national unity.




Going to madrassa enlighten me in the later years with better understand of power, politics and religion at play.






I maintain that they are equally absurd and idiotic.

Hear, hear.

 

[Zarvan]

Thats what i said, it was good for the backward arabs who never rubbed shoulders with civilization. It gave them something however for the rest of the civilized world it meant nothing. To give a solid example, Khadija the wife of Muhammed lived as a widow, inheritied wealth from her husband upon death and ran her own business without depending on any mahram. So the view you have proposed is a typical and stupid Islamist doctrine aimed at painting black and white picture.


In contrast much of the inhabitants of Arabia, Roman-Arabia and Persia fled on the advent of Islamist invasion. They choose exile rather than living under the "golden rules of Islam" speaks volumes about something. Definitely they were unwilling to submit to something inferior. By the way the first declaration of Human rights was written in Persia some 4000+ years ago.

If Hindus were to live by Hinduism today, they would remain enslaved by colonial powers. What makes India strong and cohesive today is its modren tenets of state building - Hindu nationalism adversely affects Indian national unity.




Going to madrassa enlighten me in the later years with better understand of power, politics and religion at play.






I maintain that they are equally absurd and idiotic.

Mr HAZRAT KHADIJAD RA brother and father were both alive and by the way her slaves were also their they were the ones who used to handle business they used to give her the end report Sir