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The Mosul operation

There are lot's of Erdoğan supporters in the Turkish section....why don't you open a poll in Turkish section and see it for yourself if only a single Turk supports ISIS....
They don't support IS, but this offensive failing is in their interest. Erdogan said the Iraqis cannot handle Mosul alone, don't you think he would be happy to have that confirmed.


You know we built a chemo-teraphy hospital in Musul before ISIS....we were expecting payments from the Iraqi government...one day an ISIS terrorists calls us and asks "How can we operate these machines in the hospital".....

We were doing good business in Musul before ISIS over run the place....now, nothing....How is it in our interests if ISIS keeps Musul ?
Money is another story, that's different. It's not in ur interest that they keep Mosul, I didn't say that either. You'll find a huge amount of people on this forum who root for IS when they fight the SAA or ISF. Though they would never welcome IS in their own land.
 
every erdogan supporter roots for IS in the Mosul operation, it's in their interest that this offensive fails. Not to mention most Saudis & Gulf Arabs are rooting for IS right now.
lol, what are you babbling about? Turkish govt's main concern is that there hopefully won't be ethnic cleansing of locals and that the locals will not be made refugees, among whom fleeing isis members can hide too, in turn cause problems for us or wherever they go as refugees. Other than that, good luck to Iraqi forces.
 
They don't support IS, but this offensive failing is in their interest. Erdogan said the Iraqis cannot handle Mosul alone, don't you think he would be happy to have that confirmed.
Well, i don't wanna speak on this subject. As i think, we have nothing to do in Musul and we should withdraw our troops. But some of the Turkish posters doesn't think like me and i don't wanna get engage in useless debates with them.

Money is another story, that's different. It's not in ur interest that they keep Mosul, I didn't say that either. You'll find a huge amount of people on this forum who root for IS when they fight the SAA or ISF. Though they would never welcome IS in their own land.
There was only 1 Turkish poster at the past routing for ISIS ( "alienoz" or something like that) and he has not been active for a year or much....i have never seen a single Turkish poster routing for ISIS, be it them battling Turkish forces, Syrian forces or Iraqi forces.

We only enjoyed clashes between PYD and ISIS as we both recognize them as terrorist organizations. It was terrorists killing terrorists.
 
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Money is another story, that's different. It's not in ur interest that they keep Mosul, I didn't say that either. You'll find a huge amount of people on this forum who root for IS when they fight the SAA or ISF. Though they would never welcome IS in their own land.
It cuts both ways. It's not as if I sometimes don't sense that a few Iranians and others are being kind of disappointed when our guys and the fsa in north Syria advance against isis and are sneakily rooting for isis to make it as bloody as possible for our guys and the fsa in north Syria. If someone roots for isis against Assad, Iraq and others, then that person has a screw loose.
 
Your ISIS brothers will be butchered, no worries.

I was talking about the civilians in mosul,not ISIS. ISIS killed alot of Turkish civilians,but sure everyone who is against your mullahs and country is ISIS right? Turkey will face refugee problem again because of iraqi goverment hordes bombs on civilian areas.You are using ''ISIS'' name to kill sunnis and dominate middle east let me tell you something this can't go on like this
 
It cuts both ways. It's not as if I sometimes don't sense that a few Iranians and others are being kind of disappointed when our guys and the fsa in north Syria advance against isis and are sneakily rooting for isis to make it as bloody as possible for our guys and the fsa in north Syria. If someone roots for isis against Assad, Iraq and others, then that person has a screw loose.

true, it is both ways
 
Your ISIS brothers will be butchered, no worries.
Hopefully, they act as you speak against the residents of Mosul @Turanicwarrior spoke of. It will pave the way for us.

Stop supporting ISIS
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There are lot's of Erdoğan supporters in the Turkish section....why don't you open a poll in Turkish section and see it for yourself if only a single Turk supports ISIS....



You know we built a chemo-teraphy hospital in Musul before ISIS....we were expecting payments from the Iraqi government...one day an ISIS terrorists calls us and asks "How can we operate these machines in the hospital".....

We were doing good business in Musul before ISIS over run the place....now, nothing....How is it in our interests if ISIS keeps Musul ?
Dude give up logic it wont work with some people, instead go hurr durr, we arent scared of you...
 
Dude give up logic it wont work with some people, instead go hurr durr, we arent scared of you...

what part of what i said was false, people seem to misread it. I didn't say Erdogan or Turks are supporting IS.
 
Iraqi Day ‏@iraqi_day 6m6 minutes ago
#BREAKING Lt. Gen. Abdul-Wahab al-Saadi golden brigade has arrived to the #Mosul dam. #Iraq #معركه_اسقاط_الخلاقه
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Progress:

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Addressing some assumptions being made/as well as general points:

Myth 1.) Sunni's and Turkmen will not be harmed in any form of vengeance

These assumptions have been consistent by certain media for a couple years now, facts on the ground do not support them. On contrary, the Iraqi forces, including the PMU, behave a lot more responsibly than even some moderate groups in other conflict ridden areas of the region. There is also sunni and christian cooperation with PMU, Iraqi amy, etc.... almost all of Peshmerga is Sunni too( I believe so ...) ...

Myth 2.) PMU is sectarian due to some religious slogans

This is also unfair critique, these are people who want to live ordinary lives, faced a hard time under Saddam, and past decade have faced serious and indiscriminate attacks on population centers, places of worship, etc... Which is terror, and has people living in fear and many other psychological issues. And no doubt, religious slogans help raise morale of some, and it's understandable as people are emotional. This does not bother me nor indicate any reprisal. Many groups, if not all, also have religious slogans, and some that are directly intended at demeaning the Shia Muslims. PMU is the only option to assist the government and help lead in the battle, as no other force is willing to restore stability to Iraq or undertake difficult liberations

Myth 3.) Turkey will intervene or annex west Mosul

Also not true, Turkey is in cooperation with Baghdad gov't, to discuss post operation steps or cooperation, no one is seeking to deal with the situation. And it is not easy to deal with right now.

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Point 1.) Locals need to cooperate

It's unclear if ISIS militants will flee or go underground, if they go underground, the locals need to cooperate to return Mosul to a stable city center and end all underground terrorism/insurgency.

Point 2.) Locals tired of ISIS

The locals are mostly sick of ISIS, the economy is not functioning properly, there is no security, and most of all, these militants are trying to enforce harsh laws and intimidating measures to keep people to be sitting ducks basically, not even live normally, and instill fear into Iraqi's of different backgrounds. And some of these measures they're taking are not even from the most, they are more extreme than 7th century Muslim Empires, and there way of life does not function not belong in the modern day, as a political structure. Religion can be practiced, but it can't be form of rule or law anymore. This has to be accepted by the masses and mostly is. If you expect some divine rule, than it has to clearly be a miracle or divine intervention. Nobody will tolerate beliefs or ideology to interfere in normal life, and clearly cause a failure out of the society everywhere it goes.

We cannot afford to live that way and take those gambles.

Point 3.) Some areas of Arab world need to accept reality

Certain elements in Arab world need to stop spreading mass hysteria or incitement to sectarian strife in response to changing realities in Iraq. Shia's are majority and that needs to be accepted. They are normal people, who want to move on with life, they have no conspiratorial agendas against neighboring nations. They are ruling by democratic means, and Iraq will move to progression/democracy if these elements stop inciting the region to sectarian drama and fear mongering.

This also affects some of their own people, who are being brainwashed through means of religion to sacrifice themselves and conduct insurgencies, commit massacres and abuses, and justify it by religion, this needs to end. People are throwing away their lives and becoming extreme, and have no ideology but killing and war, which affects mindset of people in region. And it needs to come to a stop.

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So good luck to the united Iraqi state, hopefully they recover from decades of violence.
 
@Sinan @xenon54

You see what I mean, the comment above me.. Not a true daeshi but he supports them when it comes to Iraq/Syria etc. The forum and Muslim world is filled with such people.

Daesh is bunch of terrorists and so are JAHSH Militia and Iran, Why would I get mad when a terrorist from Daesh kill another Iranian or Iraqi terrorist?
Actually that's excellent news for me and for humanity.

Here's Deash terrorists attacked what it seems to me bunch of Iraq-bcked terrorists with VBIED.

 
You see what I mean, the comment above me.. Not a true daeshi but he supports them when it comes to Iraq/Syria etc. The forum and Muslim world is filled with such people.

You mean Falcon ??? I dunno, his post was supporting Iraqi country....
 

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