The F-22 Mission in Afghanistan: Overkill or Realistic Training?

[MastanKhan]

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1) Sometimes people throw wrong info, so someone will counter it with correct info.

2) Everything is not known to the public, for a reason.

Thank You

Hi,

Young people don't understand that is how COPS gets confessions out of criminals---with a shot in the dark---

 

[Khafee]

Hi,

Young people don't understand that is how COPS gets confessions out of criminals---with a shot in the dark---

Exactly what is happening on this thread, Shoot arrows in the air, it is bound to hit some where.

 

[Tps43]

Hi,

Young people don't understand that is how COPS gets confessions out of criminals---with a shot in the dark---

Exactly what is happening on this thread, Shoot arrows in the air, it is bound to hit some where.

Sirs!! Very well said!

 

[CHI RULES]

do we have stealth detection capabilities ....??

Just for knowledge sake is it not possible for a ordinary Pak radars to detect F22 at short distances as it is given every where that stealth does not make a jet invisible but jest makes it difficult to lock for targeting by SAMs/A2A missiles.

Further Pak may have got latest Chinese Radars with some anti stealth capabilities and also from other sources.

 

[HRK]

Just for knowledge sake is it not possible for a ordinary Pak radars to detect F22 at short distances as it is given every where that stealth does not make a jet invisible but jest makes it difficult to lock for targeting by SAMs/A2A missiles.

Further Pak may have got latest Chinese Radars with some anti stealth capabilities and also from other sources.

only in some 20-30 Km....

 

[messiach]

If you cannot lock in track with insufficient aspect angle information, heading angle, airspeed & closure rate which is the case with most stealth jets, these can still be death-dotted 'from the top'. Heat seakers dont require a radar lock that's-why thermal suppression technology has been evolved. I am sure we can still nail the raptor. Passive RM are ineffective against raptor but active RM have a definite role. Highly active RM do not require a lock in track before launch but its risky without a FOF transponder.

stealth does not make a jet invisible but jest makes it difficult to lock for targeting by SAMs/A2A missiles.

Totally incorrect. It is the vice versa which is correct.

Further Pak may have got latest Chinese Radars with some anti stealth capabilities and also from other sources.

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Paf will and should never admit if it can ever track stealth

 

[Raider 21]

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1) Sometimes people throw wrong info, so someone will counter it with correct info.

2) Everything is not known to the public, for a reason.

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He's right about the Abbottabad part....that area comes under the Northern Air Command, 33rd Tactical Wing to be precise.

 

[FuturePAF]

Hi,

PAF will and should never admit if it can ever track stealth

agreed, Pakistan should do as the French do when interacting with new high tech aircraft from other nations; gather emissions and analyze for implementation in their own systems

Best time to test the best of Stealth at our door step
Spotters can relay takes offs and landings out of Bagram, and use the Erieye to monitor ESM from over peshawar (250 km away but a good indication of distances in any potential conflict with our eastern neighbor)
pickup what you can and you've got a picture of when you see it and when you don't, apply that to how you operate against stealth or other lower visibility aircraft

From 0:55-2:05

 

[VCheng]

Hi,

Paf will and should never admit if it can ever track stealth

And USAF should never reveal the degree of its stealth capability by using appropriate signal generators until it is necessary to be used.

 

[Khafee]

And USAF should never reveal the degree of its stealth capability by using appropriate signal generators until it is necessary to be used.

You have out done yourself this time, Congratulations!

"Flying so close to the Iranian airspace, using signal generators" - Fell from the bike again?

 

[Mrc]

This mission was probably done with pak knowledge... but purpose probably not in Afghanistan... but to assess pak abilities some how

 

[Khafee]

This mission was probably done with pak knowledge... but purpose probably not in Afghanistan... but to assess pak abilities some how

Prior to flying through the air corridor, PAF was given advance notice, as always.

 

[Mrc]

Prior to flying through the air corridor, PAF was given advance notice, as always.

They ware testing something either in Afghanistan or regarding Pakistan..or. may be a show of force to paf??

Using a stealth air craft for enemy with no detection capability is definitely over kill...

Unless was not the stealth that was being tested

 

[Raider 21]

Hi,

Young people don't understand that is how COPS gets confessions out of criminals---with a shot in the dark---

Absolutely.......you were young as well...