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So if US attacks Iran, you plan to respond with nukes!!!!????? then what? guess which one has thousands of nuclear warhead.

Ukraine's situation wouldn't differe even with nukes, their pathetic army had little investments, and if they had nuke, this army would have been even more pathetic, causes they had to invest on their nuclear arsenal. but throwing even one nuke would have been a green light for Russia to literally wipe the entire Ukraine.
what if usa attacks us with nuke tomorrow ?!

what will stop them to not use nuke if we wipe out one of their fleet ?!


for sure if we have 100 nuke with icbm , it had good deterrence against them




im not coward like you guys

when USA even verbally said that we won't use nuke against Iran !?

why you have faith in their good will

im sure if Ukrainian s have nuke , Russian s would not dare to attack them in first place
 
what if usa attacks us with nuke tomorrow ?!
what will stop them to not use nuke if we wipe out one of their fleet ?!
for sure if we have 100 nuke with icbm , it had good deterrence against them
im not coward like you guys
when USA even verbally said that we won't use nuke against Iran !?
why you have faith in their good will
im sure if Ukrainian s have nuke , Russian s would not dare to attack them in first place
How long is it gonna take to have 100 nukes and a decent delivery system like an ICBM next to it ? I mean the idea of having nuke is tempting but the process, time and investment that it needs is huge ,,, making a bomb is something and its proliferation is whole another story.
And do you really think others would stand idle looking at you to fill this gap and built up your arsenal?
Practically we've paid the price and for sure American would not remove the sanction but as I said before the sanctions are economical and making a bomb which is military in response doesn't make sense at all ... our nuke is 100k Hezbollah accurate missiles ... to have real deterrence build up Iran economy , talk to the people, connect our economy with BRICS and have direct financial ties with all countries , remove Yarane and pay it directly to people, structural changes in the banking system ....
 
Ultimately,at some point iran will have to make a decision regarding an iranian nuclear deterrent.The irony is that the wests own poorly considered actions,such as we have seen over the last 2 days for instance,only makes this outcome that much more likely.
 
As long as sanctions are active, Iran should make such moves and more agressvly; west should remove all sanctions for Iran to accept to go back to the deal.
 
what if usa attacks us with nuke tomorrow ?!

what will stop them to not use nuke if we wipe out one of their fleet ?!


for sure if we have 100 nuke with icbm , it had good deterrence against them




im not coward like you guys

when USA even verbally said that we won't use nuke against Iran !?

why you have faith in their good will

im sure if Ukrainian s have nuke , Russian s would not dare to attack them in first place
Actually, it's exactly the cowards who look for nukes. what if ...what if.... what if...

Iran has been standing against US without nukes and will continue to do so. the rest are your fear. period
 
you are coward because even in your mind , you don't dare to think about being equal to USA in fire power ...
 
Actually, it's exactly the cowards who look for nukes. what if ...what if.... what if...

Iran has been standing against US without nukes and will continue to do so. the rest are your fear. period
Dude, you're braindead if you think Iran has been standing against the US without nukes. I don't want to use the exact term of what has been happening, but it's far from "standing".

Iran has become trapped in a deadend that has resulted in nothing but endless sanctions and complete isolation from the world. The Iranian nuclear program at its present form is a sad joke and it is costing Iran multiple times more than what it should. It's even useless for a small domestic civilian nuclear program.

Even China and Russia are wary of signing deals with Iran. Let alone Europe and North America. Even African countries avoid trade with Iran over US sanctions. Whatever is happening now is far from "standing" against the US. It's just the result of inertia on the parts of Iran and the US, and the natural tendency to keep the status quo instead of changing it at a huge cost.
 
Dude, you're braindead if you think Iran has been standing against the US without nukes.
Then what has Iran been doing for over 35 years with no serious attacks on its soil and a booming economy?
I don't want to use the exact term of what has been happening, but it's far from "standing".
Then what is it? you keep making abstract references without specifics- TALK SPECIFICS TO US about Iran's situation...Iran has been very successful actually- you're just in denial. large GDP, strong military, strong military deterrence in the region...WHAAT??? ur comments sounds like what a Pakistani PDF Iran hater would say.
Iran has become trapped in a deadend that has resulted in nothing but endless sanctions and complete isolation from the world.
what do you call a "dead end"? this isnt poetry- GET SPECIFIC. you make abstract references to be right in ur head. cmon and get over it.
The Iranian nuclear program at its present form is a sad joke and it is costing Iran multiple times more than what it should. It's even useless for a small domestic civilian nuclear program.
Its costing Iran less and less because world and regional dynamics are changing , to Iran's favor also- Iran has found alternative markets, alternative ideologies, alternative allies, alternative methods for trade...
Even China and Russia are wary of signing deals with Iran.
Biut they both signed long term strategic secret deals with Iran- where have u been yo???
Let alone Europe and North America.
Iran doesnst need them- arent you seeing Iran expand to alternative markets like Venezuela, Tajikistan, etc??? iran is PROVING that it can operate successfully in the world now with ALTERNATIVE approach overall to things, adjustible and flexible, but effective and successful- matybe not successful in your eyes, but you're not objective.
Even African countries avoid trade with Iran over US sanctions.
u kidding? Iran opened car assembly lines in Senegal again, Iran has the Iran-AFrica chamber of commerce, Iran has very good relations and biz with countries like South Africa- Iran does operate a bit discreetly, but that doesnt mean Iran doesnt have influence- Iran supplied drones to Ethiopia recently, and expanded its relationships in Africa by doing so...WHERE HAVE U BEEN all this while???? How are you Iranian and dunno whats happening to Iran in reality? just saying bro!!
Whatever is happening now is far from "standing" against the US.
Lol- tell us what Iran "standing" would look like to you, in specific real terms please. we need this clarified first, you could be demanding the impossible in the 1st place.

It's just the result of inertia on the parts of Iran and the US, and the natural tendency to keep the status quo instead of changing it at a huge cost.
The status quo has already been turned upside down, it just doesnt look that way on the surface - why didnt US intercept the numerous Iranian VLCCs that shipped all types of crude to Venezuela while in intl waters?? If US and NATO cant fight for Ukraine their proxy-to-be, whats the odd they can even fight Iran? if you need education you should let us know but you seem outdated in your understanding - things are already way past that- Eurasian integration + SCO + INSTC + CSTO + BRICS is basically taking over, but that will fly over many people's heads.
 
Then what has Iran been doing for over 35 years with no serious attacks on its soil and a booming economy?

Then what is it? you keep making abstract references without specifics- TALK SPECIFICS TO US about Iran's situation...Iran has been very successful actually- you're just in denial. large GDP, strong military, strong military deterrence in the region...WHAAT??? ur comments sounds like what a Pakistani PDF Iran hater would say.

what do you call a "dead end"? this isnt poetry- GET SPECIFIC. you make abstract references to be right in ur head. cmon and get over it.

Its costing Iran less and less because world and regional dynamics are changing , to Iran's favor also- Iran has found alternative markets, alternative ideologies, alternative allies, alternative methods for trade...

Biut they both signed long term strategic secret deals with Iran- where have u been yo???

Iran doesnst need them- arent you seeing Iran expand to alternative markets like Venezuela, Tajikistan, etc??? iran is PROVING that it can operate successfully in the world now with ALTERNATIVE approach overall to things, adjustible and flexible, but effective and successful- matybe not successful in your eyes, but you're not objective.

u kidding? Iran opened car assembly lines in Senegal again, Iran has the Iran-AFrica chamber of commerce, Iran has very good relations and biz with countries like South Africa- Iran does operate a bit discreetly, but that doesnt mean Iran doesnt have influence- Iran supplied drones to Ethiopia recently, and expanded its relationships in Africa by doing so...WHERE HAVE U BEEN all this while???? How are you Iranian and dunno whats happening to Iran in reality? just saying bro!!

Lol- tell us what Iran "standing" would look like to you, in specific real terms please. we need this clarified first, you could be demanding the impossible in the 1st place.


The status quo has already been turned upside down, it just doesnt look that way on the surface - why didnt US intercept the numerous Iranian VLCCs that shipped all types of crude to Venezuela while in intl waters?? If US and NATO cant fight for Ukraine their proxy-to-be, whats the odd they can even fight Iran? if you need education you should let us know but you seem outdated in your understanding - things are already way past that- Eurasian integration + SCO + INSTC + CSTO + BRICS is basically taking over, but that will fly over many people's heads.
No serious attacks? LOL Killing a country's top general and publicly taking responsibility for it, calling him an international terrorist, is a declaration of war for any country that is not bending over. And it hasn't happened only once, Fakhrizadeh was killed near Tehran about a year later and Sayyad Khodaei was killed right in the middle of Tehran. Also, the IR has publicly announced that a UAV manufacturing site was bombed in Kermanshah.

A booming economy? This part is the biggest joke but what does a Nigerian know about economy? After all, isn't Nigeria some kind of shithole where people can hardly afford two meals a day? Inflation stands above 50% in Iran while oil prices have risen from $30 a barrel to $120 in the last year. For a country that its oil revenue has grown 4 times in the last year, the Iranian economy is performing as poorly as Turkey's economy now. Food prices have risen at least 80% since last year. Housing prices in Tehran have risen at least 120% since last year, while the figure for all of Iran still stands above 70%. Companies like Digikala and Snapp are downsizing their personnel. Even manufactured products in Iran, like the junks they produce and call it automobiles because they have 4 wheels, have witnessed over 50% increase in their prices since 1400. The only thing that is booming is the price of necessities, foods, and even locally manufactured goods.

Here's the actual situation: the IR is bending over for the US to get fucked as much as the US can f*ck. The only reason that the IR is get fucked less hard these days is because the US is growing old and less powerful because of other players like China and Russia and there's a joke of a president in the US now that is so senile that can't even walk or talk properly and has left Iran alone. Once Trump returns to the office, the US will become increasingly more hostile. Instead of using this opportunity and God given luck, the leadership of Iran who happen to care about nothing but the personal interests of themselves and their corrupt, ugly, monkey looking families residing in the West, have done nothing during the Biden administration to ensure the national security of Iran and are sitting at the negotiating table with the EU and the US to revive a deal that is by far one of the biggest treasons to the nation of Iran since the Turkmenchay Treaty with Imperial Russia.

South Korea, China and Iraq refuse to pay back their debts after years and these are only the ones officially confirmed. Over 100 billion dollars of Iranian assets have been frozen in other countries. Europe does not trade with Iran. China and Russia do not trade with Iran. Iranians cannot open a bank account in over half of the world, including China and Russia as our allies, because of the US OFAC sanctions. This isn't "standing". This is bending over and taking it in the a$$ because you are weak and you have accepted to become the punching bag of the US as long as they just beat you and humiliate you but don't kill you.

Dude, nobody gives a f*ck about Africa. Senegal? Nigeria? Who gives a f*ck about these countries? These countries are long-term investments for 2 decades later at least, maybe 3 decades later. It won't save the Iranian economy now. Neither will it help Iran have a meaningful nuclear program with a real purpose. Heck, trading with them can't even lower food prices in Iran.

Right now the Iranian nuclear program not only is seen as a huge joke in terms of incompetency and lack of purpose, but even in the Middle East which is ruled by backward dictatorships installed by the West, Iran is falling behind its neighbors. the UAE is going to operate +5 gigawatts of electricity sooner than Iran will finish Bushehr 2. Turkey and Saudi Arabia will probably do the same too. Pakistan is already a nuclear state. Meanwhile, Iran is busy playing a boring game with world powers where Iran makes a completely stupid political move that makes no difference for the civilian/military nuclear program of Iran, while the EU and the US impose even tougher sanctions on the Iranian economy and continue to assassinate Iran's top generals and nuclear experts and bomb strategic assets inside our territory. Now if some idiots and trolls like you want to call it "standing", that's a different issue.
 
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Dude, you're braindead if you think Iran has been standing against the US without nukes. I don't want to use the exact term of what has been happening, but it's far from "standing".

Iran has become trapped in a deadend that has resulted in nothing but endless sanctions and complete isolation from the world. The Iranian nuclear program at its present form is a sad joke and it is costing Iran multiple times more than what it should. It's even useless for a small domestic civilian nuclear program.

Even China and Russia are wary of signing deals with Iran. Let alone Europe and North America. Even African countries avoid trade with Iran over US sanctions. Whatever is happening now is far from "standing" against the US. It's just the result of inertia on the parts of Iran and the US, and the natural tendency to keep the status quo instead of changing it at a huge cost.
Oh sanctions, I have one word for you, Russia, now start counting their nuclear warheads.
 
No serious attacks? LOL Killing a country's top general and publicly taking responsibility for it, calling him an international terrorist, is a declaration of war for any country that is not bending over. And it hasn't happened only once, Fakhrizadeh was killed near Tehran about a year later and Sayyad Khodaei was killed right in the middle of Tehran. Also, the IR has publicly announced that a UAV manufacturing site was bombed in Kermanshah.

A booming economy? This part is the biggest joke but what does a Nigerian know about economy? After all, isn't Nigeria some kind of shithole where people can hardly afford two meals a day? Inflation stands above 50% in Iran while oil prices have risen from $30 a barrel to $120 in the last year. For a country that its oil revenue has grown 4 times in the last year, the Iranian economy is performing as poorly as Turkey's economy now. Food prices have risen at least 80% since last year. Housing prices in Tehran have risen at least 120% since last year, while the figure for all of Iran still stands above 70%. Companies like Digikala and Snapp are downsizing their personnel. Even manufactured products in Iran, like the junks they produce and call it automobiles because they have 4 wheels, have witnessed over 50% increase in their prices since 1400. The only thing that is booming is the price of necessities, foods, and even locally manufactured goods.

Here's the actual situation: the IR is bending over for the US to get fucked as much as the US can f*ck. The only reason that the IR is get fucked less hard these days is because the US is growing old and less powerful because of other players like China and Russia and there's a joke of a president in the US now that is so senile that can't even walk or talk properly and has left Iran alone. Once Trump returns to the office, the US will become increasingly more hostile. Instead of using this opportunity and God given luck, the leadership of Iran who happen to care about nothing but the personal interests of themselves and their corrupt, ugly, monkey looking families residing in the West, have done nothing during the Biden administration to ensure the national security of Iran and are sitting at the negotiating table with the EU and the US to revive a deal that is by far one of the biggest treasons to the nation of Iran since the Turkmenchay Treaty with Imperial Russia.

South Korea, China and Iraq refuse to pay back their debts after years and these are only the ones officially confirmed. Over 100 billion dollars of Iranian assets have been frozen in other countries. Europe does not trade with Iran. China and Russia do not trade with Iran. Iranians cannot open a bank account in over half of the world, including China and Russia as our allies, because of the US OFAC sanctions. This isn't "standing". This is bending over and taking it in the a$$ because you are weak and you have accepted to become the punching bag of the US as long as they just beat you and humiliate you but don't kill you.

Dude, nobody gives a f*ck about Africa. Senegal? Nigeria? Who gives a f*ck about these countries? These countries are long-term investments for 2 decades later at least, maybe 3 decades later. It won't save the Iranian economy now. Neither will it help Iran have a meaningful nuclear program with a real purpose. Heck, trading with them can't even lower food prices in Iran.

Right now the Iranian nuclear program not only is seen as a huge joke in terms of incompetency and lack of purpose, but even in the Middle East which is ruled by backward dictatorships installed by the West, Iran is falling behind its neighbors. the UAE is going to operate +5 gigawatts of electricity sooner than Iran will finish Bushehr 2. Turkey and Saudi Arabia will probably do the same too. Pakistan is already a nuclear state. Meanwhile, Iran is busy playing a boring game with world powers where Iran makes a completely stupid political move that makes no difference for the civilian/military nuclear program of Iran, while the EU and the US impose even tougher sanctions on the Iranian economy and continue to assassinate Iran's top generals and nuclear experts and bomb strategic assets inside our territory. Now if some idiots and trolls like you want to call it "standing", that's a different issue.
Well on one side it's Iran and on the other side is CIA, MI6, MOSSAD and other EU intelligence services joining forces against us and despite all their efforts not Iran nuclear program has not stopped but continued and progressed and it's not a joke in comparison with regional countries which has no nuclear industry but nuclear reactors ... and it's not just nuclear program but various field of science related to it .. like 800k patients needs isotope ... like this:


Today it's nuclear program tomorrow it'd be your army to negotiate over ... so define red line ..
On the other hand Iran doesn't makes a completely stupid political moves, what was JCPoA & which side hit under table? so IR ain't stupid to sacrifice its economy for the sake of nuclear program and indeed compromised in 2015 the other side ain't after reason ...
 
you are coward because even in your mind , you don't dare to think about being equal to USA in fire power ...
Iran's fire power will never match the US, even with nukes, that's the reality and the difference between our economy, but our firepower is high enough to increase the enemy's loose versus its benefit. that's the perfect strategy which Iranian leader has chosen for deterrence while not pressuring on the economy.



Building few nukes wont going to change anything, neither on the ground nor on the paper,
You say it's a deterrence, yet it's equally an excuse for US preemptive nuclear invasion as well.
Also they can arrange a nuclear attack on their own troops and blame Iran and then invade Iran by nuclear bombs.


Your rather childish strategy starts from nowhere (as it ignores the existing state) and ends in nowhere, as it didn't for soviets and Russians.
 
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