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https://www.politico.eu/article/iran-nuclear-talks-may-restart-but-terrorist-label-spat-still-unresolved/

Iran nuclear talks may restart — but terrorist label spat still unresolved​

Enrique Mora, the EU official mediating between Iran and the US, spent two days in Tehran last week trying to break a seven-week stalemate.

VIENNA — Iran signaled a willingness to reopen stalled nuclear talks during two days of meetings last week in Tehran — but it hasn’t dropped a final demand holding up a deal.


Enrique Mora, the senior EU official coordinating the nuclear talks, traveled to Iran in an effort to overcome a seven-week stalemate in talks between the U.S., Iran and Western powers. Senior Western officials told POLITICO that the discussions, which spanned Wednesday and Thursday, created new progress, but that an agreement remained far from certain.


Negotiators are trying to find a way to revive a 2015 deal under which Iran limited its nuclear program in exchange for sanctions relief. The U.S. pulled out of the agreement in 2018, leaving it on life support.







The revival talks are now hung up on Iranian demands that the U.S. remove the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC), a powerful branch of Iran’s military, from the so-called Foreign Terrorist Organization list. Mora has been helping mediate as Iran still refuses to speak directly to the U.S.


According to Western officials, Mora delivered the message that the U.S. might discuss the IRGC — but only once the nuclear talks are settled. Iran didn’t back down but indicated it was willing to restart talks over non-IRGC subjects in the meantime — and might offer potential alternative demands to the terrorist label ask.


As the meetings came to a close late last week, officials gave some public indication of the limited progress.


Mora’s visit to Tehran had “gone better than expected,” said Josep Borrell, the EU’s foreign policy chief, during a meeting of foreign ministers from the G7 group of wealthy nations. The “stalled” talks had been “reopened,” he claimed.


A spokesperson of the Iranian Foreign Ministry on Monday said the “meetings in Tehran have set the right course and were moving forward.”


The terrorist label issue is considered the final major sticking point in the talks. The text of a deal is practically finalized, with the exception of two other minor points that Western officials called “technical issues related to sanctions lifting” that should be solved fairly quickly.







A Trump hangover​


The U.S. placed the IRGC on its terrorist list in 2019, part of former President Donald Trump’s “maximum pressure” campaign on Iran after exiting the Obama-era nuclear deal, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA).


While Washington initially offered to remove the IRGC’s terrorist label if Iran committed to not attack Americans in the region and shelved plans to assassinate former U.S. officials, there is now mounting opposition in Washington among Republicans and some Democrats to the move. Opponents are arguing that the IRGC is a terrorist organization that has killed numerous Americans, and should be treated as such.


Mora transmitted the message to Iranian chief negotiator Ali Bagheri Kani that the U.S. will not recind the terrorist label as part of a nuclear deal, but might negotiate the issue at a future point, Western diplomats said. Mora brought no new U.S. proposals to Tehran.


While Iran didn’t back away from its stance, it indicated it was open to restarting the frozen talks and to continue discussions on non-IRGC issues.


So now western diplomats are expecting Tehran to put forward potential alternative demands, giving Washington a chance to think about other concessions it could offer. The aim is to find a way around the IRGC hurdle that will let both governments sell the deal domestically.


If these proposals are realistic, western officials say the parties could meet again for physical talks in the coming weeks — but no decision has been made yet.







“A deal remains far from certain,” a U.S. State Department spokesperson said Friday. “Iran needs to decide whether it insists on extraneous conditions and whether it wants to conclude a deal quickly, which we believe would serve all sides’ interests.”


The Iranian side also repeated its official line on Friday.


“A good and credible outcome is within reach if the U.S. makes its decision and adheres to its commitments,” said Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdollahian. “Contacts continue.”


Time is ticking​


The window for clinching an agreement is closing quickly.


In Washington, President Joe Biden faces a difficult political landscape. Republican and Democratic senators recently registered their bipartisan opposition to removing the IRGC terrorist label in a nonbinding motion, which also urged Biden to address Iran’s support for regional terrorism in the deal — a subject considered out of bounds to negotiators.


Meanwhile, Iran’s nuclear program is advancing. Last week, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), the United Nations nuclear watchdog, said Iran now has 42 kilograms of 60 percent enriched uranium, a level experts say can be turned quickly into weapons-grade uranium.







IAEA Director-General Rafael Grossi told the European Parliament the development was “cause for serious concern.”


Iran insists its nuclear program is peaceful.


Furthermore, the IAEA Board of Governors is set to meet in Vienna from June 6-10. The U.S. and its European allies could be faced again with a situation where they must decide whether to pass a resolution condemning Iran for its behavior. The outcome will hinge on whether Iran addresses IAEA’s concerns about its past nuclear activities — which Western diplomats are skeptical will occur.


Iran has also arrested more foreign nationals, further straining its relations with European countries. A French couple, who came to Iran as tourists, were detained last Wednesday — the same day Mora began his talks in Tehran.
 
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with up to 40% (possibly higher) of Iran’s economy being indirectly (or directly) controlled by IRGC mega conglomerates. The label means no major companies will risk investing in Iran without assurances of zero IRGC connections. Thus iran will never get the full potential of JCPOA (unfettered foreign investment). This is exactly the US goal and it knows it.

Thus the JCPOA just suddenly became a oil exports for nuke restrictions deal. Whereas oil exports will be worse off than pre-2009 when sanctions were started.

So what is Iran really negotiating here? Democrats don’t have enough political capital to remove that designation no matter how cosmetic it is.

Like I said before Raisi admin wasn’t magically going to make a better deal than Rouhani admin. The deal is largely the same.
 
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این ها اوایل خوب بودن ، ولی حقوق های نجومی و مراقبت نکردن ها باعث شد که ...
تا زمان امام ، امام صراحت داشتن و جلوی مسئولین رو مستقیم می گرفتن ولی بعد از امام ، « مصلحت اندیشی شد » و همیشه « به فکر آبروی نظام بودن » که باعث گسترش فساد شد ....
اینکه حداقل چهل میلیون نفر به خاطر فساد آقایون به خفت و خواری بیافتند و هزاران زن و دختر به فحشاء وادار بشوند جوانها به خاطر بی پولی دزد و مجرم و مواد فروش بشوند ، آبروی نظام رو به خطر نمی اندازه ولی زمانی که به فاش کردن اسم مفسیدن اقتصادی می رسه ... همه مسئولین به فکر « آبروی نظام » و « آبروی مسلمان» می شوند .

اگه این افراد ذره ای به خدا و پیغمبر و معاد اعتقاد داشتند ، حاضر نمی شدند سرمایه ملی این همه آدم رو چپاول کنند ...

در حالی که تورم ما 50 درصده و توی همین 6 ماه ارزش پول ملی 20 درصد کم شده ، قراره افزایش حقوق های کارگران ( حالا از من برنامه نویس بگیر تا کارگر ساختمانی ، طبق قانون برده داری جمهوری اسلامی که به نام قانون کار شناخته می شه ) افزایش حقوق 10 درصدی باشه ....
یعنی سر حقوق 800 هزارتومن ، 80 هزارتومن افزوده می شه و از اون سمت در خفا حداقل قیمت آب و برق و گاز قراره علاوه بر افزایش 30 درصدی قیمت امسال ، سال آینده هم به فوب خلیج فارس نزدیک بشه ...

مالیات بر ارزش افزوده هم که می گیرند ....

این حرامخواری باعث شد که ما به این بدبختی برسیم که مجبور بشیم یک چیزی مثل برجام رو امضاء کنیم ...


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این هم متن سخنان تائید شده ی ظریف من باب برجام :

این مردک ( ظریف ) فکر کرده آمریکا هم ایرانه که مجلسش ( کنگره ) فقط *** *** و دولتش می تونه کاری بدون اجازه ی کنگره انجام بده و به خیال خودش استراتژی ریخته ... .مردک تو 40 ساله تو آمریکایی و نمی دونی که توی آمریکا قانون حاکمه و اوباما و کری نمی تونند خلاف قاون تصمیمی بگیرند !؟

همین استراتژی ( حماقتی و یا خیانتی که داره حماقت نشون می ده ) که ظریف بر اساسش مذاکره کرد ، برای افتضاح بودن برجام کافی هست ...

from 2016 --

we should have nukes ....
and repeat ion my selves

You people are the one who talk about " only interest is matter in modern countries foreign affairs " , but now you are talking about "US is making his face look bad" ...

sorry but you guys are like broken lover who get dumped by his beloved and now is truly depressed and begin to fool himself with lies ...

lets be clear , IMO USA only see you reformists as political whore and you have no value for them .... their smile to you is like smile of a man who show some minimal kindness to a whore before fucking her and in your case , USA will use you from behind ...

sorry , maybe you guys pursue serpentine to ban me for these words but face the truth , your love for westerns is totally one sided and your nothing more than political whores for them ...

FACE THE TRUTH ....

some times , im proud of myself

You people are the one who talk about " only interest is matter in modern countries foreign affairs " , but now you are talking about "US is making his face look bad" ...

sorry but you guys are like broken lover who get dumped by his beloved and now is truly depressed and begin to fool himself with lies ...

lets be clear , IMO USA only see you reformists as political whore and you have no value for them .... their smile to you is like smile of a man who show some minimal kindness to a whore before fucking her and in your case , USA will use you from behind ...

sorry , maybe you guys pursue serpentine to ban me for these words but face the truth , your love for westerns is totally one sided and your nothing more than political whores for them ...

FACE THE TRUTH ....

some times , im proud of myself
I don't get angry ... I'm saying these thing for years ...

even in 2017 , I alread was repeating myself for years ...

The deal is dead ....
2017-
 
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I remember that I was predicting these days and I was saying " After closing all nuclear facilities , USA will impose new sanctions ....

but some people like : @Serpetine , @AmirPatroit , @JEskandari mocked me and call me "Hardliner" .... now they are hiding somewhere and don't come in this kind of threads ...



Zarif :" These sanction has nothing to jcpoa , they just gather and impose new sanction " ...

really !? are you Iran Foreign minister or defender of USA foreign policy !?

تحریم های دورهمی

well , if you have any clue about the reality of world , you couldn't say this kind of thing ...
even in Iraq-Iran war , France ( your reformists buddy ) offered nuke to Saddam and that said nuke was supposed to be used against Iran ...

although western are denying this but we believed this is true ... after all France gave her fighter jets with their own pilot ( French pilots ) to Iraq and that's basically meaning they entered war against Iran along side Iraq ....
in any war we are our own and I'm sure the western will give any weapon to our neighbor to destroy us ... but people like you want to ignore the truth and fool themselves ....

till they don't block our politician bank account ins Swiss banks , they don't care ... and most funny part is that all USA sanction are directed against Iran people and don't touch our politicians assets at all ...

still , they didn't put sanction or confscute our politicans properties in the western countries ... they did this to Russians
 
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Iran close to enough uranium for nuclear weapon: UN report
by Olafimihan Oshin - 03/03/22 12:38 PM

A United Nations watchdog reported on Thursday that Iran has close to enough uranium in its stockpile to build nuclear weapons, The Associated Press reported.

In its confidential quarterly report, the U.N.’s International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) told member nations that Iran has an estimated 73.1 pounds of uranium enriched up to 60 percent of fissile purity, which is an increase of 12.1 pounds since November.

The IAEA also estimated in its report that since Feb. 19, the country’s stockpile of all enriched uranium is at 7,048.3 pounds, an increase from 1,559.55 pounds, according to the AP.

The agency also said that its head, Director General Rafael Mariano Grossi, will travel to Tehran over the weekend to have meetings with senior Iranian officials.

Grossi said at a press conference on Wednesday that agency officials are working “very hard” to have progress with Iranian officials on the issue, the AP reported.

This comes as diplomats from five different countries have been meeting with Iranian officials in Vienna since November in the hopes of coming to a full resolution with the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.

The Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, which reached a full agreement in 2015, eased previous sanctions against Iran in return for curbs on its nuclear program, the AP reported.

The initial nuclear deal was called off three years later by former President Trump, who reimposed far-reaching sanctions on Iran.

The agency added it was unable to verify the exact size of Iran’s stockpile of enriched uranium due to the country’s imposing limitations on its inspectors last year, the AP noted.

 
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Iran removes two IAEA beyond safeguards installed cameras


TEHRAN, Jun. 08 (MNA) – The Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) announced Iran has removed two of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) cameras which were installed voluntarily beyond safeguards obligations.


In a statement issued on Wednesday, the AEOI said that Iran has cooperated with the UN atomic body beyond its safeguards commitments to show its goodwill, adding that but unfortunately, the IAEA has not appreciated Tehran's moves, instead it has viewed Tehran’s voluntary move as part of Iran’s obligations.


The organization noted that for these reasons, it orders the Online Enrichment Monitor or OLEM, and the flow meter cameras to be taken offline.


The AEOI however noted that 80 percent of the IAEA’s surveillance cameras are within Iran’s obligations under the safeguards agreement and that they will be in place and will keep working.

According to Iran's Atomic Energy Organization, Behrouz Kamalvandi, the spokesman of the organization, attended one of the nuclear centers on Wednesday and monitored the removal of two IAEA cameras.


Following the release of a recent report by Rafael Grossi, Director-General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, as well as efforts by three European countries and the United States to draft an anti-Iran resolution at the IAEA Board of Governors, the officials of the Islamic Republic of Iran explicitly stated that Iran will respond promptly and effectively to these actions, and the countries that are pushing for the adoption of an anti-Iranian resolution by the United Nations nuclear watchdog will be responsible for all the consequences.


Iran has also repeatedly cautioned in the past that the adoption of an anti-Iranian resolution was counterproductive to ongoing talks aimed at reviving a 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and world powers.


Addressing the BoG meeting on Monday, IAEA Director-General Rafael Grossi claimed that Iran has not provided credible explanations for the presence of nuclear material discovered at the country's three unannounced sites.


This is not the first time that Grossi has made allegations against Iran, despite the country's full cooperation and IAEA's comprehensive inspections of Iran's peaceful nuclear program.
 
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Iran removes two IAEA beyond safeguards installed cameras


TEHRAN, Jun. 08 (MNA) – The Atomic Energy Organization of Iran (AEOI) announced Iran has removed two of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) cameras which were installed voluntarily beyond safeguards obligations.


In a statement issued on Wednesday, the AEOI said that Iran has cooperated with the UN atomic body beyond its safeguards commitments to show its goodwill, adding that but unfortunately, the IAEA has not appreciated Tehran's moves, instead it has viewed Tehran’s voluntary move as part of Iran’s obligations.


The organization noted that for these reasons, it orders the Online Enrichment Monitor or OLEM, and the flow meter cameras to be taken offline.


The AEOI however noted that 80 percent of the IAEA’s surveillance cameras are within Iran’s obligations under the safeguards agreement and that they will be in place and will keep working.

According to Iran's Atomic Energy Organization, Behrouz Kamalvandi, the spokesman of the organization, attended one of the nuclear centers on Wednesday and monitored the removal of two IAEA cameras.


Following the release of a recent report by Rafael Grossi, Director-General of the International Atomic Energy Agency, as well as efforts by three European countries and the United States to draft an anti-Iran resolution at the IAEA Board of Governors, the officials of the Islamic Republic of Iran explicitly stated that Iran will respond promptly and effectively to these actions, and the countries that are pushing for the adoption of an anti-Iranian resolution by the United Nations nuclear watchdog will be responsible for all the consequences.


Iran has also repeatedly cautioned in the past that the adoption of an anti-Iranian resolution was counterproductive to ongoing talks aimed at reviving a 2015 nuclear deal between Iran and world powers.


Addressing the BoG meeting on Monday, IAEA Director-General Rafael Grossi claimed that Iran has not provided credible explanations for the presence of nuclear material discovered at the country's three unannounced sites.


This is not the first time that Grossi has made allegations against Iran, despite the country's full cooperation and IAEA's comprehensive inspections of Iran's peaceful nuclear program.
This sounds like the implementation of what they were talking about here:
 
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Iran turns off nuclear site cameras in response to IAEA​

Iran and the IAEA continue escalatory measures.
Iran's political attache at the permanent mission to the Vienna-based international organizations Khodayar Rouzbahani.

JOE KLAMAR/AFP via Getty Images
Al-Monitor Staff
June 8, 2022

Iran has turned off some cameras at a nuclear facility in response to a draft resolution to censure Tehran introduced by the United States and its European allies at the UN nuclear watchdog.

A statement released by Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization (AEO) said that while Iran has wide-ranging cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iran’s cooperation was due to its “good intentions” and the IAEA assumed this cooperation was Iran’s “duty.” As a result, Iran has decided to shut off completely two cameras belonging to the IAEA at the Online Enrichment Monitor (OLEM) and the flowmeter system. It did not state at which nuclear site this action was taken.

Behrouz Kamalvandi, spokesman for the AEO, said that in response to the draft resolution by the IAEA, Iran has decided to remove the surveillance cameras. Kamalvandi said that Iran’s cooperation with the IAEA was voluntary and went beyond the additional protocols that the country had agreed to in order to establish “goodwill,” but that the behavior of the IAEA “has not been appropriate.”

The cameras that were disabled had been voluntarily installed and were not part of Tehran's agreements with the IAEA.

Kamalvandi accused the United States and the three European countries of provoking the IAEA against Iran.

According to previous arrangements, Iran and the IAEA had agreed that the agency’s cameras would continue to record activities at Iran’s nuclear sites, but that Iran would hold on to the footage until the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action was revived and US sanctions on Iran were removed. However, the negotiations in Vienna have reached a stalemate over the US designation of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as a foreign terrorist organization.

Kamalvandi said that with Iran’s move to remove the surveillance cameras, the IAEA decided not to “return cooperation with cooperation.” He added that “Iran cannot cooperate while the IAEA behaves inappropriately.”

The standoff between Iran and the IAEA has been brewing for some time. Iran had vowed to respond to the IAEA’s proposed resolution on Iranian cooperation. So far, the step Iran has taken appears rather tame. However, observers believe that escalatory measures like this could soon spiral out of control.

Vahid Jalazadeh, head of Iran’s parliamentary National Security and Foreign Policy Committee, said that Iran’s peaceful activities have not yielded results and Iran’s parliament expects the Ebrahim Raisi administration to show a strong response. He said that the resolution by the IAEA will also impact the negotiations in Vienna.

Javan newspaper, which is close to the IRGC, wrote that after 20 years of Iranian cooperation, the IAEA is returning to its old actions of repeatedly issuing resolutions against Iran. The article concluded that with escalations at this level, leaving the nonproliferation treaty “is on the table.” Iran signed in 1970 the international treaty meant to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons


Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/original...lear-site-cameras-response-iaea#ixzz7VfVJUKFT

New Iranian policy regarding this JCPoA imbroglio?
 
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Iran turns off nuclear site cameras in response to IAEA​

Iran and the IAEA continue escalatory measures.
Iran's political attache at the permanent mission to the Vienna-based international organizations Khodayar Rouzbahani.'s political attache at the permanent mission to the Vienna-based international organizations Khodayar Rouzbahani.

JOE KLAMAR/AFP via Getty Images
Al-Monitor Staff
June 8, 2022

Iran has turned off some cameras at a nuclear facility in response to a draft resolution to censure Tehran introduced by the United States and its European allies at the UN nuclear watchdog.

A statement released by Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization (AEO) said that while Iran has wide-ranging cooperation with the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), Iran’s cooperation was due to its “good intentions” and the IAEA assumed this cooperation was Iran’s “duty.” As a result, Iran has decided to shut off completely two cameras belonging to the IAEA at the Online Enrichment Monitor (OLEM) and the flowmeter system. It did not state at which nuclear site this action was taken.

Behrouz Kamalvandi, spokesman for the AEO, said that in response to the draft resolution by the IAEA, Iran has decided to remove the surveillance cameras. Kamalvandi said that Iran’s cooperation with the IAEA was voluntary and went beyond the additional protocols that the country had agreed to in order to establish “goodwill,” but that the behavior of the IAEA “has not been appropriate.”

The cameras that were disabled had been voluntarily installed and were not part of Tehran's agreements with the IAEA.

Kamalvandi accused the United States and the three European countries of provoking the IAEA against Iran.

According to previous arrangements, Iran and the IAEA had agreed that the agency’s cameras would continue to record activities at Iran’s nuclear sites, but that Iran would hold on to the footage until the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action was revived and US sanctions on Iran were removed. However, the negotiations in Vienna have reached a stalemate over the US designation of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) as a foreign terrorist organization.

Kamalvandi said that with Iran’s move to remove the surveillance cameras, the IAEA decided not to “return cooperation with cooperation.” He added that “Iran cannot cooperate while the IAEA behaves inappropriately.”

The standoff between Iran and the IAEA has been brewing for some time. Iran had vowed to respond to the IAEA’s proposed resolution on Iranian cooperation. So far, the step Iran has taken appears rather tame. However, observers believe that escalatory measures like this could soon spiral out of control.

Vahid Jalazadeh, head of Iran’s parliamentary National Security and Foreign Policy Committee, said that Iran’s peaceful activities have not yielded results and Iran’s parliament expects the Ebrahim Raisi administration to show a strong response. He said that the resolution by the IAEA will also impact the negotiations in Vienna.

Javan newspaper, which is close to the IRGC, wrote that after 20 years of Iranian cooperation, the IAEA is returning to its old actions of repeatedly issuing resolutions against Iran. The article concluded that with escalations at this level, leaving the nonproliferation treaty “is on the table.” Iran signed in 1970 the international treaty meant to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons


Read more: https://www.al-monitor.com/original...lear-site-cameras-response-iaea#ixzz7VfVJUKFT

New Iranian policy regarding this JCPoA imbroglio?

This entire fucking deal was a sham from the start.
 
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we should have nukes .... they did all they could in past 5 years .... so , if we arm ourselves with nukes , we can be more aggressive and and do whatever we want ...

Ukraine war showes than all this bullshits about International laws is meaningless if you don't have fire power to defend you right ...
 
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we should have nukes .... they did all they could in past 5 years .... so , if we arm ourselves with nukes , we can be more aggressive and and do whatever we want ...

Ukraine war showes than all this bullshits about International laws is meaningless if you don't have fire power to defend you right ...
So if US attacks Iran, you plan to respond with nukes!!!!????? then what? guess which one has thousands of nuclear warhead.

Ukraine's situation wouldn't differe even with nukes, their pathetic army had little investments, and if they had nuke, this army would have been even more pathetic, causes they had to invest on their nuclear arsenal. but throwing even one nuke would have been a green light for Russia to literally wipe the entire Ukraine.
 
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So if US attacks Iran, you plan to respond with nukes!!!!????? then what? guess which one has thousands of nuclear warhead.

Ukraine's situation wouldn't differe even with nukes, their pathetic army had little investments, and if they had nuke, this army would have been even more pathetic, causes they had to invest on their nuclear arsenal. but throwing even one nuke would have been a green light for Russia to literally wipe the entire Ukraine.
Iran needs nukes indeed...The purpose of Iranian nukes is not to hit the US..It is to allow Iran to wipe out Israel if need arises....you know well that Israel is more precious to US than lets say Washington is....Iran is lucky to have Israel close by..an easy 8 min target ....Iran should not rely on conventional methods ..conventional methods are too fragile...Nukes are the sure bet...:azn::azn:
 
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